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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:32 AM
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Believers, do you think all Repukes who voted for Bush will go to hell?
It's my belief you can't be a moral/Godly person and a Repuke.

Do you agree all Bush voters have blood on their hands and have eternity of hell to look forward to?
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:34 AM
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1. Don't think anyone's going to hell.
But I'm not a fundamentalist, so I couldn't say.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:36 AM
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2. Not for me to judge
That's the difference between a liberal Christian and a fundamentalist.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:37 AM
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3. If there is a hell, I hope they go there.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:40 AM
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4. I don't believe there is a "hell"
but I do believe that when you cross over that if you inflicted a lot of pain and suffering on people you are made aware of it. Sort of what energy you put out there kind of thing. I don't think it's a punishment I think it's just the way energy works. More like mirroring. But I think it's finite as in not eternal.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 AM
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5. no, at least not the ones who are just stupid
they are misinformed. The sin is if they made the choice for the purpose of harm to others. Most repugs think that we really are helping those people.
and if there is a god, then there is "forgive them for they know not what they do"
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Frogtutor Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:02 AM
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19. I have to agree that they are mostly misinformed and misguided
I am a Christian and I feel a need to educate the misguided ones about the error of their political ways, but how do I do that without coming off as judgmental as a fundie?

Frogtutor
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 AM
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6. not a believer but...
I think if there is a God, he/she is a kind and forgiving god and will forgive them.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 AM
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7. No
i believe in a benevolent god, and even though their views may be twisted, god loves them anyway. and, in all frankness, im not totally sure i believe in a hell

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 AM
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8. I think this is a silly question
and a stupid game
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Sodium Pentothal Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:42 AM
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9. No
There is no dishonor in being deceived by the devil. There is no fault for falling for the con. Some will, but most grassroots, rural republicans do not deserve hell for voting their party. It is just unfortunate their party is represented by an @@@hole ATM.


This thread sux, by the way. Repukes going to hell... sigh, a little less hate please, you sound just like them.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:47 AM
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10. Did a lot of reading on the subject
Mainly books about people who have had a near-death experience. The most famous being Betty Eade. Very interesting reading.

According to most accounts, when you get to heaven you are shown something like a home movie of your life and the events that occurred in it. It's said that that is where you experience first-hand the consequences of your behavior and what it has wrought. There you commence to judge yourself. God remains loving throughout.

That said, as a Christian I was brought up and learned many different verses. Among those that stick in my mind, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not, lest ye also be judged.

Most of us know that Hitler never would have gotten a foothold if people knew the extent of the evil that lied therein. Same could be said of Bush. People think they know the truth, but they don't really.
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Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:54 AM
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11. Most spiritual leaders say War is hell
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 02:03 AM by Titian
If it is true which I think it is that as our spiritual leaders have said in all of our great religions such as Buddhism, Christianity, Sufism, Hinduism, that War is hell then it only seems to be a fact that if the Republicans create war and hell on earth, that they then therefore can go to hell because War does not exist in heaven. War exists in hell.

And my intuition is telling me that a second element to the Republican nightmare on earth is that they have no intention of ever ending the War ever.

Most people that are even professional soldiers hate the hell of War.

But my gut feeling is telling me that Republicans worship War.

I am not God though but if I was God I would say what did you want on earth peace or war? And if they said war I would send them to hell.

But if I was God before they went into heaven, I would ask the same question as if they were still on earth with all of their status, reputation and power and jobs they think they had in the world so that it would be entirely the wish of the Republican Taliban.

And I would phrase the question in a philosophical way so that they would be under pressure to vote for war like in a war room at the White House if they were Republican Taliban politicians for example.

Popes can go to hell as well. Most won’t tell you this though.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:01 AM
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12. Look At It This Way. Bush Would Tell God It Was Bush's Way Or the Hiway
And Bush won't back down. Condi and Rummy will be on his side. They aren't willing to have some ME nut tell them what they should do. They don't care if his name Is God.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:04 AM
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13. no, and heres why
because unlike them
we leave the judging up to God.

they wanna talk about not playing God all the time, ha, all they do is judge.

not to mention we live in a country that worships money (yay capitalism).

most people who come to me with the abortion case for the way they vote, i ask if they are willing to give up capitalism and thier money so they can stop worshipping a false idol...usually makes them go away.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:20 AM
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14. Well, in the little world inside my head, I like to think so, but...
... in reality, I think it is not me who is to judge (ok, I judge here on Earth, the Big Guy upstairs gets to do the eternal judging.)

However, I do feel that knowing innocents were being killed in Iraq, but still placing more importance on gays rather than the immoral war we are in does make one complicit in what is going on in Iraq. Wasn't Vietnam enough? Have we learned nothing?

In a way, I do feel sorry for those too dumb to know better. But for their leaders who are fine with Iraq so long as they get the "Christian" values they want in the homeland, I have no empathy for and fully believe they are just as responsible for the deaths of the innocents because they did nothing to stop it.

By leaders, I'm referring to Falwall, Dobson, Schuller, etc....

But, there are many very fine Christian who completly disagree with me. I think I am just so angry about Iraq, I can't even have a rational thought in regards to it at all.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:27 AM
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15. Since we're the ones in hell, there won't be any room for them!!!
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 02:28 AM by Gloria
Seriously....as Teresa said........4 more years of hell...
Except that the destruction will last longer than that........
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:38 AM
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16. I'm Dubious About the Xian Hell, But
It is my belief that after we die, a spirit guide of some sort (call it an angel, a mentor, or whatever) shows the recently-deceased their lives and shows them not only their positive actions and accomplishments, but the damage they've caused during their last lifetimes. I expect that a lot of Republican voters (to quote Ricky Ricardo) "have a whole lot of 'splainin' to do."

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:42 AM
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17. Only the conscious ones, not the deluded. But then, God makes
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 10:44 AM by DinahMoeHum
that judgement, not me.

:evilfrown:
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Shadoobie Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:48 AM
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18. As a liberal christian, I can definitely say...
that I am not the one to judge. I'll let God make the decision.

Greg

P.S. Of course, voting for Kerry will definitely get me into Heaven. :-)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:05 AM
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20. Since I am not a believer I can't comment on that.
I do agree * voters have blood on their hands, though.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:12 AM
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21. I'm not a believer (or disbeliever) personally...
But I told my rightous aunt and family of Rethugs who are all fundies that the only way I COULD believe there is a God is if Bush's followers and Bush himself went there. I also told them that if there is a God, I sincerely believe that the Blood of Iraqis will drip, at the time of judgement, from their hands. Hell? Who knows. God, who knows? But there is no God of which I can conceive, that would ever reward these people.
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