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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:22 PM
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I think when we go into an Iraq mosque and shoot Iraqi's like dogs...
...the argument that we must stay in Iraq to keep the Iraqis from killing one another begins to sound really lame. Someone had better quick think up another reason we need to stay there. And its not the oil so quit saying that.

Don

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:24 PM
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1. PNAC and xtian armageddon come to mind....
But not the oil. Nope. Never the oil.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:26 PM
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2. We've lost the Iraqi people and we've lost the war.
The most intelligent thing that we could do is to get out, however considering who is in the White House, I'm sure that's not going to happen.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:34 PM
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7. This kind of stuff happened in Vietnam
and the Bush Administration is simply losing its control of its attempts to try to show U.S. troops as noble people, fighting to liberate the people of Iraq, and revealing the truth that they are simply state trained murderers. Soldiers always are. The rules of war, and conventions are rarely followed, and not following them is rarely caught. The troops that we send to Iraq are no more or less human than the Serbians who comitted genocide in Kosovo. They do the same thing under the same condition and are basically trained to lose all of the moral restraints that we are taught when growing up.

I have never met anyone who left the military with the same regard for human life that they had before they went in, and I know too many people who went to war and came back with far les regard for it. I knew too many people who came back from Vietnam with a blind hate for orientals, that never has left them until this day. These were people who would not have harmed a fly before they went into the military, and wouldnt think twice of it afterwards.


We have badly lost this war, and have lost it worse than Vietnam and the White House is stubbornly unaware of it.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:46 PM
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9. What genocide?
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 06:47 PM by Wright Patman
Last time I checked there was still a huge majority of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo who are no doubt still oppressing the tiny minority of Serbs living in that province. In fact, I think it is somewhat likely the Serbs have been "ethnically cleansed" from the province by now. Think of that.

One difference between me and some other people here, especially the Wesley Clark lovers, is thinking that Kosovo (Operation Allied Force or "Farce" as it is more appropriately called) was a shining exemplar of "humanitarian bombing" for "peace."

In reality, about 3,000 Serb civilians (and a not insignificant number of Albanian civilians in Kosovo as well) were murdered by "NATO" (read: U.S.) "smart bombs" which apparently lost their intelligence en route to detonation.

The Kosovo Liberation Army, unlike Iraq, REALLY DID have ties to Al-Qaeda (or Al-CIAda as I call it).

How's that Slobo war crimes trial coming, BTW? You don't hear much of it anymore.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:27 PM
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3. The argument that we are there to 'free' Iraqis
or 'save' them from terrorists wears thin, as many Iraqis look on us as the terrorists.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:33 PM
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6. American soldiers have
BEEN the terrorists since "SShock and Awe." It's an unpleasant fact that sooner or later must be grokked.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:30 PM
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4. It's like Viet Nam on 5X fast forward.
Hopefully we'll get the hint in 5X.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:31 PM
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5. Instead of "urban warfare", I suggest we start referring to
"neighborhood warfare."

Think of your neighborhood; the schools, the churches, the families. It takes on a entirely different air than "urban" then, one the masses have to think about.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:37 PM
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8. Why do you hate the troops?
You're making DU look bad.

<sarcasm>
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:47 PM
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10. Support the Troops. Hate the Commander in Chief!
There ya go!
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