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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:00 PM
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I know..I know..support the troops...blah blah blah..but what do we do
when these 20 something year old men and women come home..after having been geared to brutalize people (as in the Marine in Fallujah who shot a wounded "insurgent" point blank) and don't want to give up what has now become their sport kill?

I read an article just yesterday saying that only 5 million dollars was allocated this year by the generous Republican house to treat PTSD...so what do we do when these people are out on our streets again?

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:01 PM
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1. we'll do what we've been doing since Vietnam
next-to-nothing. It's sinful.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:02 PM
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2. give 'em a badge? nt
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:03 PM
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3. Shame on the US government
Shame.
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maxudargo Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:06 PM
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4. I guess we do what we can to continue to support them
Fight to provide them with the health and psychiatric services they might need, fight for a good economy where they can get good jobs and focus on making a good life for themslves, always show them respect for having served, and encourage them to join the fight by being active in the Democratic party.

Maybe I don't understand the question...
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:11 PM
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5. How many John Allen Mohammeds are out there?
He was a Gulf War vet, you know. There will be a lot of undiscovered casualties coming home who we won't know about until something violent happens, I fear (many will kill themselves; many already have).
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:13 PM
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6. vietnam legacy is alive and well
hopeless, homeless, drug addicted, abusive/abused. children of their children and on and on. never ending disfunctional, disposable humanity. the spoils of war.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:17 PM
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7. you know what they will do: to hell with them!
after they get used up by the god-fearing, moral ones, there will be no more "support" for them.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:21 PM
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8. We support them, cuz the vast majority of them are okay
I got out off active duty in the Navy in '69. Not a lot of support back then for military dischargees ......

But, eventually there was.

As a country we've learned. These guys are not criminals. To be sure, there are psychopaths and criminals in any societal group, but they are very, very few. Most are just sons and daughters and brothers and mothers and fathers. Friends. In many ways, victims of circumstance. But generally good people ...... very good people.

War does this to people. The healthy ones will recover and lead perfectly normal, unremarkable lives.

Please don't fear them. The military's job is to do what its country asks it to do. If you have a complaint, that complaint is to our government not to our soldiers.

While there are many parallels between Vietnam and the War In Iraq (tm), let's not treat these soldiers like were treated back then.

I hate this war, but not the warriors. (I'm a liberal so don't flame me for this, okay?)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:28 PM
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11. I was reading a Vietnam history book
and there was a section where they'd asked John Kerry what it was like. He said that he woke up from one of those nightmares he still gets from time to time and realized he'd been shouting in his sleep. Looking around at the people on the plane with him, and their reactions to him, he thought to himself that there was something wrong with him. His fiance at the time describes something similar

The reactions seemed to range from indifference, to an avoidance of the vets, treating them as losers, as if it were something that was contagious.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:23 PM
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9. Their presence in Iraq is endangering all of us
still it is not their fault that thay are there and I'm sure 99% want to be home.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:28 PM
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10. give them a piece of cardboard and a sharpie
so they can stand on a busy corner asking for donations for a homeless vet. They have a better chance of getting help that way than waiting for Bushco to help them.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:29 PM
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12. Get them all home now. No if's, no ands or buts.
Our nation is conducting a war crime of magnitudes never seen before. The "Holocaust"(sp?) pales in comparison. We the citizens of this nation are guilty. This is our government. They work for us, we do not work for them. www.reclaimdemocracy.org

Nader was not wrong, David Cobb is an amazing politician, David VanOs (candidate running for AG in TX) is every bit as good. We all lost. When is enough, enough?
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