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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:05 AM
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93,000 extra votes in Cuyahoga Co. - Outrage in OH!!!
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93,000 extra votes in Cuyahoga County -- Outrage in Ohio
Nov 11, 2004
Teed Rockwell, Philosophy Dept., Sonoma State University

Smoking Gun

You may have seen the associated press story about the precinct in Cuyahoga county that had less than 1,000 voters, and gave Bush almost 4,000 extra votes.

But that turns out to be only the tip of a very ugly iceberg. The evidence discovered by some remarkably careful sleuthing would convince any reasonable court to invalidate the entire Ohio election.
In last Tuesday's election, 29 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, reported votes cast IN EXCESS of the number of registered voters - at least 93,136 extra votes total. And the numbers are right there on the official Cuyahoga County Board of Elections website:

Bay Village - 13,710 registered voters / 18,663 ballots cast
Beachwood - 9,943 registered voters / 13,939 ballots cast
Bedford - 9,942 registered voters / 14,465 ballots cast
Bedford Heights - 8,142 registered voters / 13,512 ballots cast
Brooklyn - 8,016 registered voters / 12,303 ballots cast
Brooklyn Heights - 1,144 registered voters / 1,869 ballots cast
Chagrin Falls Village - 3,557 registered voters / 4,860 ballots cast
Cuyahoga Heights - 570 registered voters / 1,382 ballots cast
Fairview Park - 13,342 registered voters / 18,472 ballots cast
Highland Hills Village - 760 registered voters / 8,822 ballots cast
Independence - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Mayfield Village - 2,764 registered voters / 3,145 ballots cast
Middleburg Heights - 12,173 registered voters / 14,854 ballots cast
Moreland Hills Village - 2,990 registered voters / 4,616 ballots cast
North Olmstead - 25,794 registered voters / 25,887 ballots cast
Olmstead Falls - 6,538 registered voters / 7,328 ballots cast
Pepper Pike - 5,131 registered voters / 6,479 ballots cast
Rocky River - 16,600 registered voters / 20,070 ballots cast
Solon (WD6) - 2,292 registered voters / 4,300 ballots cast
South Euclid - 16,902 registered voters / 16,917 ballots cast
Strongsville (WD3) - 7,806 registered voters / 12,108 ballots cast
University Heights - 10,072 registered voters / 11,982 ballots cast
Valley View Village - 1,787 registered voters / 3,409 ballots cast
Warrensville Heights - 10,562 registered voters / 15,039 ballots cast
Woodmere Village - 558 registered voters / 8,854 ballots cast
Bedford (CSD) - 22,777 registered voters / 27,856 ballots cast
Independence (LSD) - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Orange (CSD) - 11,640 registered voters / 22,931 ballots cast
Warrensville (CSD) - 12,218 registered voters / 15,822 ballots cast
The Republicans are so BUSTED.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm#top
is the official website of the Cuyahoga county election board,
providing irrefutable evidence that the vote was off by at least 93,000.
Kerry lost Ohio by approximately 130,000, so this is not an insignificant
figure that can be ignored, particularly when there are numerous other
indications of voter fraud in Ohio and elsewhere. I think the only possible alternative is to invalidate the entire Ohio election, if not the entire national election.
I'd say the game's up.America, it looks pretty much like you've been had.
Sincerely,
Teed Rockwell, Philosophy Dept., Sonoma State University



OUTRAGE IN OHIO:
ANGRY RESIDENTS STORM STATE HOUSE!
MASSIVE VOTER SUPPRESSION & CORRUPTION
DEMOCRACY FAILURE

by David Solnit
Hundreds of angry Ohio residents marched through the streets of Columbus, Ohio's Capital, this evening and stormed the Ohio State House, defying orders and arrest threats from Ohio State Troopers.

"O-H-I-O, Suppressed Democracy Has Got To Go!" they chanted. After troopers pushed and scuffled with people, nearly a hundred people took over the steps and entrance to the State's giant white column capital building and refused repeated orders to disperse or face arrest.

People prepared for arrests, ready to face jail, writing lawyers phone numbers on their arms, signing jail support lists and discussing NON-COOPERATION and ACTIVE RESISTANCE (linking arms, but not fighting back).

A freshly painted banner held on the steps read,
"ONE VOTE DENIED = DEMOCRACY IN TROUBLE!
100'S OF 1000'S OF VOTES SURPRISED = DEMOCRACY FAILED”.

An unprecedented massive grassroots voter registration and get out the vote effort and widespread opposition to Bush went up against the massive coordinated Republican effort to suppress, intimidate and possibly steal millions of votes.

In addition to the voter suppression and intimidation is the fact that Bush campaign co-chair Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell is in charge of the election and vote counting.

But much deeper questions about fundamental flaws in the system hang up in the air!


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Norman_Bates_Sr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:09 AM
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1. Too many Registered in OHIO
Seems there were complaints about this before the election.... and what did we do? Why? or Why not? How many were for our man and how many for shrub? Will the totals offset the win?

A lot of questions. I think it is time for a Federal Grand Jury and let the chads fall where they may. Better to loose in an honest election than a rigged one.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:17 AM
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12. Uh, isn't the point of the story
that there were more votes than there were registered voters?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:09 AM
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2. WOW Awesome post! Keep this kicked!! n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:10 AM
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3. Luci -- send Keith this info too!!
:hi:

:D
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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:14 AM
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4. there's ZERO documentation to this poster's claim!

Where are the official numbers on RVs in each precinct? All we have is the poster's word. The link to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections is useless in verifying the poster's claim.

This is, I fear, another deadend unless someone can show me the official RV/turnout numbers for the precincts in question.



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ohioan Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:24 AM
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7. The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections has already explained this
and there's nothing to it -

The number of votes "per precinct" is not an accurate reflection of where those votes actually came from. During even-numbered years the county's canvassing board posts vote totals that include the results from outside the county from congressional districts that spill over into Cuyahoga County. This makes it look as if these precincts had 90,000 more votes than voters.

Also, remember that Kerry carried this county overwhelmingly (by more than 2-1) and the precincts in which there appear to be overvotes also went overwhelmingly for Kerry, making it likely that the so-called "overvotes" were Kerry votes.

This overvote issue in Cuyahoga County seems to be compelling, but there's no there there.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:27 AM
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13. Yup, already disproven.... nt
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:17 AM
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5. I thought this one was debunked.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 10:18 AM by WoodrowFan
read your own link man...

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm#top

There were no "93,000" extra votes.


I'm more worried about Diebold SWITCHING votes than casting extras.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:22 AM
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6. interesting
From the Cuyahoga BOE site linked above


# registered voters 1005807

# votes for Kerry 433262
# votes for Bush 215624

So the # ballots cast shows about a 60% voter turnout.

I wonder if there's another explanation.
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corky44 Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:41 AM
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9. Bev Harris addressed this issue
on Randi's show 11/11 and said she still had questions about the
way totals were mixed. Harris said that it violates basic accounting
practices and question why it was done - if it was done.

Don't believe Republican hype- make them answer every single
outstanding question completely.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:34 AM
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8. Unfortunately, There Were No Extra Votes
The information was poorly presented by the county.

Votes in 29 precinct subtotals are greater than the sum of the polling stations. In other words, the votes for these 29 precincts don't add up. The difference is absentee ballots, which were counted in large groups and then added to selected precincts. There was no notation in the official county canvassing document.

However, if you add up only the individual polling stations, it works out to about 60% turnout and totals to the official vote count. I know because I spent Tuesday evening confirming it.

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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:48 AM
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10. Priceless
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:10 AM
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11. Is that the county where Republicans
were caught handing out crack for registrations?
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