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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:31 AM
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In five words or less, describe the DEMOCRATIC position on God.
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 01:44 AM by 0rganism
Can you do it?

edit: caps to emphasize Democratic, cos some of you are wandering off into personal la-la land.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:32 AM
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1. separation of church and state
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:34 AM
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Ditto - Plain and simple...no compromise!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:36 AM
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72. Read my mind.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:19 PM
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83. Another ditto
Should be a no-brainer
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:36 PM
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92. Can't say it better than that.
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:48 PM
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99. perfect
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:16 PM
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115. Exactly what I was going to say
when I clicked on this thread. Got here way too late.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:32 PM
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117. And how separate are they, really?
"...One nation, under God,..." in our pledge of allegiance;

"In God We Trust" on our money;

Daily opening prayers in congress and state legislatures;

Textbooks in Kansas that provide apologetics for creationism;

Not even counting all the faith-based fun we've had since 2000.

Is the Democratic position really one of true separation? Would you expect to win an election with that in the platform?
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:42 PM
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122. You know I wonder about this...
I myself am not even slightly religous. However, I have never had a problem with saying God in different national things. For one, just saying God does not necessarily mean a christian God does it? And I have always just thought of it symbolically. Also, maybe because I am not religous, I don't associate God with church very much. In Jesus(Allah, Buddah, Vishnu) we trust, now that is another story, that brings in the church for me. I don't know, God and church are seperate to me.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:32 AM
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2. It's none of our business.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:33 AM
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3. in seven words: God is God and government is government
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:34 AM
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4. Government free of religious bias. (nt)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:34 AM
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5. Democrats don't have a position on God
Gee, guess I can't; 7 words is as short as I can make it.
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:35 AM
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6. A spiritual power higher than myself
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:36 AM
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7. Belief system giving one meaning and purpose
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bushi Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:51 AM
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56. that is one owns position
and is probably right,...zen student...but we dont really now the position of a large "party" on the most difficult of qquestions honeslty waht is the positionn of evolution and monotheism??? theay will not answer as aparty only generalized equilivancies, faith without deed, or something like that is their antithetical position
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:36 AM
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8. That which binds humanity as one
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:37 AM
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9. Infinite source of universal energy
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:38 AM
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10. The glue that binds us
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:40 AM
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16. What delivers us from spam.
;-)

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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:05 AM
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44. "Us?"
Ya got a mouse in yer pocket?
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:39 AM
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11. 5 words
God's for church; not government.
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:39 AM
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12. Common consciousness underlying all life
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:39 AM
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13. God says "Don't use me!"
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:02 PM
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125. Amen! God hates that crap. Give unto to Caeser what belongs to
Caeser... Give unto God what belongs to God.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:39 AM
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14. None of the State's business.
It's important to note that this position neither defends nor denies God. Religious beliefs are personal to the individual--and this is a ministerial student saying this.
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:42 AM
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21. May not be the states business but we as Democrats must have a
view

Without it we can forget mainstream America. There are fewer people with no belief system then those with a belief system.

There are many words for God. To only view it from a religious sense, negates the spirituality that we all seek, even atheists seek to find common ground with others and in a sense that is the sharing of a common energy which may be called God.

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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:43 AM
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22. Divine Consciousness in action
This is a great exercise!!! Thanks!!!! Bernie Bear
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:54 AM
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34. "The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao."
That's the first line of the Tao Te Ching. The same is true of God--once you try to define God, you have put mortal limits on God. You have squeezed God into a box, which is what most Democrats feel RW Christians do and then try to impose it on us. We on the left will never be able to explain our view of God to the religious right because most of us on the left who believe in God see a God of subtlety and nuance, where I think the right only sees God in black and white terms.

Yes, most people believe in God (or a higher power, or whatever), but it doesn't follow that it's somehow UnAmerican to want to keep your own God private. The first words out of the Bill of Rights is that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Ergo, neither the government nor the masses have any right to interfere with how a person practices (or proclaims, or choses not to practice or proclaim) their religion. Separation of church and state, end of story.
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:40 AM
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15. Source of all life
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:40 AM
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17. sum of matter and energy
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:40 AM
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18. Love
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:41 AM
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19. God is not a Republican
(or Democrat for that matter)
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:42 AM
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20. God as you understand him n/t
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:52 AM
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32. or her
or it...

:thumbsup:
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:43 AM
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23. Faith: A right not requirement
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:53 AM
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33. I like this one a LOT n/t
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:44 AM
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24. We want good Christian soldiers who go into battle blindly asking no
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 01:47 AM by Zinfandel
questions and give their young lives, right or wrong for corporate America and Jesus, to kill innocent people because they are told to by their leaders.

Never questioning authority.

SORRY, WRONG PARTY.
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DWCG Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:44 AM
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25. Here's what it should be
Faith through deeds!
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SouthPasadenaDem Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:44 AM
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26. Absolutely none of your business.
n/t
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:44 AM
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27. "God, one's own private belief"
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:47 AM
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28. Let this ignorant Soviet Canuckistani give it a shot.
He is; He lets us.
:shrug:
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Magical Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:47 AM
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29. Non-violent, unifying, mysterious, loving force
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:49 AM
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30. Not a government issue n/t
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:50 AM
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31. Religion is a personal choice.
I say it's up to the individual rather than the state to determine religious beliefs. I have never in my life felt as inhibited in my political views as since GWB becaame prez. Let's go watch commercials and buy stuff we don't need before the news comes on and tells us the new body count. This war is glorified lie. They are profitting on our backs.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:57 AM
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35. Stay Out of My Life!
same answer for guns, abortion, birth control, assisted suicide, sex,

etc.
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Still_Notafraid Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:59 AM
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36. Keep big government out of my church.
I think if we said that a few thousand times maybe one or two bible thumpers will come around.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:59 AM
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37. Who's God?
We are about Freedom of Religion.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:06 AM
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38. 2300 angels dance on pin
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Pandaren Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:38 AM
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39. Don't ask
God? OMFG!!! GOD??? DID YOU JUST SAY...GOD!!!!! MY EARS!!!!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:38 AM
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40. I thought you were going to say
Don't ask; don't tell! :-)
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:43 AM
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41. God is love, not hubris. n/t
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:55 AM
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42. Looking at the answers, I can see why we're losing
We're not just verbose, we're farking confused. There is no clarity, no unity of vision, only chaos disguised as diversity.

I can sum up the republican position in five words, easily.

"America is a Christian Nation."

We're going to get real used to that idea over the next four years.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:15 AM
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45. A very good excercise
Really. Most repubs think we have a christian nation we know that. But most Dems believe in the separation of church and state and one's religious beliefs and practices should not be imposed on others.

Not five words but speaking for me, it's difficult to speak in sound bites. Either I'm too dumb or I'm too smart :shrug: haven't figured out which one yet ;-)

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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:27 PM
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90. So far you've asked for a 5 word response to Dem position on
Guns and God, so I guess Gays is next?

My answer is all the same;

Republicans are lying to you.

That's the 5 word hook, then explanations can follow.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:59 PM
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102. The "gays" thread is already in progress
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 02:03 PM by 0rganism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

IIRC, I started it before the God thread, but it fell off the bottom quicker than the other two.

Your idea of hitting back at the republican lies is a good one, IMHO. I think if you can phrase it in such a way that it speaks to each issue specifically rather than leaving it as a blanket condemnation, we might end up with a message that could work in Middle America.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:28 PM
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91. In 5 words or less, describe the Commie Pinko Dirtbag position on 0rganism
"Debate bad. I want groupthink."
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:46 PM
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98. AKA shooting the messenger
This thread is not a debate. It's utter confusion.

People here are disoriented by the question, we start summing up our own beliefs instead of stating in simple terms what the Democratic position is. Not just on the God thread, it's on the guns and gays threads too.

I don't want groupthink, in the sense of lockstep agreement. I do want you to understand the problem we face in clarifying a winning message. By and large, the inhabitants of DU are Democratic activists, and we're having considerable difficulty doing so.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:59 PM
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112. Perhaps the DNC is in confusion, but people here don't seem to be.
So each one has different ideas and beliefs. So what? What other alternative is there other than groupthink, or worse yet, collective hypocrisy?

What would people be saying if this thread was more to your liking? What were you expecting to read?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:43 PM
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123. This question is NOT about clarity in your personal religious belief
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:44 PM by 0rganism
You seem to be fixated on this, when it's really missing the point.

I asked DUers for a simple description of the Democratic position on God. Instead, everyone wants to tell about their own ecumenical theology, or offer an opinion about the interaction of church and state that flies in the face of observed reality.

Groupthink isn't a problem. As a group we don't even understand the question.

> What were you expecting to read?

I wish I could tell you I expected something much different than what I'm reading now. This thread is confirming my fears about the Democratic party's incoherent message.



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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:04 AM
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43. N/A
There is no "DEMOCRATIC position on God." - It is a construct built upon/overlapping another construct. This assertion applies to the so-called "republican position" as well.

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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:28 AM
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47. ROTF
LMAO Great pic SR. My newest favorite......bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaahahaha
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:34 AM
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50. Thank you
It's not pretty, but I just finished this one a few minutes ago after I heard Rummy talking about chopped off heads... x(

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:18 AM
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46. God's not in the White House
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:50 AM by Carolab
But He makes sure those who do live there protect our freedom to worship as we wish outside of it.
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bushi Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:32 AM
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48. mmmmmm............
....to each his own.........
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:32 AM
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49. He's OK for some n/t
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:35 AM
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51. Right to reject, Freedom to choose
OK that's six words :-)
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megaplayboy Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:35 AM
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52. "Our God doesn't hate anyone"
that's it.
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:40 AM
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53. We walk the walk
Meaning, we don't just thump a bible and pontificate - we carry out kind acts toward our fellow man and we are true stewards of the planet our creator has given us.
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pen dragon Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:41 AM
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54. agnostic
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:47 AM
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55. Love for everyone.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:53 AM
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57. Jesus is a liberal
You can look it up:

www.jesusisaliberal.com
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:53 AM
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58. don't ask don't tell me
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lucabrasi Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:54 AM
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59. Science, Logic, Knowledge
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:05 AM
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60. Oh come on, you're not even trying.
Five words or less.

Describe the Democratic position on God.

Good luck.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:18 AM
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62. We're fucked
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:19 AM by RFK2
Huh?! :-(
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:23 AM
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65. Yep, it's lookin' that way
I'm beginning to regret starting these threads.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:25 AM
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66. No No No
It's actually a GREAT excercise. I'm glad you started them even though they seem to be frustrating as hell. We have to get our grey matter in gear.

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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:10 AM
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61. "The Opiate of the Masses"
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:20 AM
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64. Nice, but we're looking for the Democratic version, not the Marxist one
There's really not much in common between the two, but the republicans have certainly tried to frame it that way.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 AM
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69. I've always loved the "tell it like it is" wing of the Democratic party
n/t
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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:29 AM
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70. Thats what i believe
I'm an atheist I believe it does more harm then good.
It gives people false hope in an easily corruptible system.
thats how I feel about it.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:41 AM
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74. Did you know that "atheist" is nearly the worst negative for a candidate?
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:43 AM by 0rganism
Seriously. It was right up there with "Satanist" and "Pagan" and "ex-con", in terms of characteristics that would keep an American from voting for someone.

I, too, happen to agree with Karl Marx about religion. You can read the full context of his statement here:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critiqu...

"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions."

(K. Marx, "Introduction to A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right")

However, this is not the position of the Democratic party in the United States of America.
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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:54 AM
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75.  Yea people don't like us atheist's :(
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:57 AM by Sin
whelp heres a humor page about that hope you like it ( thats if you haven't read it all ready.)

http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/lioaca.html
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really annoyed Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:18 AM
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63. The First Amendment Will Do
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Well, that's 21 words... Oh well...

I hope that is "DEMOCRATIC" enough for you.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 AM
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67. Render unto Caesar what's Caesar's.
I don't know that this is the Democratic Party's positions on God, but I feel it's the most democratic one. It's also the Christian religion's position on goverment, not that many Christians seem to acknowledge it.

Religion has no place in government.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 AM
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68. Faith is a personal choice.
It's your own personal choice-no one will tell you how to worship against your will- and you wont force your views on others either- deal?

It's madness that it should have to go any further than that...
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 AM
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71. Personal, Private, Protected, and Seperate from Policy
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:38 AM
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73. To each, his/her own.
To each, his/her own.

I think that sums it up.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:07 AM
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76. My God beats your God!
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 05:09 AM by President Jesus
oh wait...that's the gop position.

They also use "Who would Jesus execute?"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:22 AM
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77. Do NOT preach to ME
:)

if YOU love god..that's fantastic. I am happy for you.. I hope it brings you comfort and great dividends..

I will choose my OWN way, and if I ever feel the need of spiritual guidance..You will be the first one I call.....until then, kindly STFU :)
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Garage Queen Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:12 PM
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78. To each his own.
tada!

Do I win a prize?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:14 PM
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79. not of the ego, spirit
:)

i am having fun
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:16 PM
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80. It's YOUR decision, not ours
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:16 PM
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81. None of your business.
Did it in four.

--IMM
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:18 PM
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82. One word: Amos.
That was easy and I'm an Atheist.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:22 PM
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84. a personal and private matter
eom
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:23 PM
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85. Why should politics address "God"?
"God" is not a universal concept. Those who practice a religion should be free to practice it as they please, so long as they don't impose it on others via the government. Pretty simple, isn't it?
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:23 PM
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86. Republicans are lying to you.
Same as "guns" message
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irancontra Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:24 PM
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87. NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:25 PM
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88. Your business, and nobody elses.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:25 PM
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89. "Congress shall make NO law.."
I've always been fond of the 1st Amendment. Short, concise, no weasal words and covers just about everything I believe in about religion, speech, the press (media) and the peoples' rights.

Of course, it is ignored by both parties. Pandering to the church gets more votes.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:38 PM
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93. hand me down a viper!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:41 PM
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94. "Shhh! No talking about that!" eom
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:41 PM
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95. There's a god? n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 12:43 PM by FDRrocks
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:44 PM
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96. God is a personal choice
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:46 PM
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97. Respect peoples' private religious choices.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:49 PM
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100. LOVE
I did it one again :D
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:53 PM
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101. Jesus was a liberal Jew.
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:06 PM
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103. Your boat, not my paddle n/t
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:07 PM
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104. God and politics don't mix
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 02:09 PM by StopThePendulum
just like oil and water...
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:08 PM
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105. A question left to the individual
natch
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:38 PM
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106. Hitler Called Himself a Christian
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:43 PM
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107. Democrats - The "New" Testament Party
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LVdem Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:44 PM
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108. My position:
There is no god.
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PhuLoi Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:47 PM
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109. Yours is barking mad, nyah!
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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:54 PM
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110. "We don't want any 'God'."
It should be: "A little 'God' won't hurt."

That's what middle America believes. We won't get middle America voters until we stop supporting taking "God" out of the pledge; removing nativity scenes from public squares; removing The Ten Commandments from courthouses; taking "In God We Trust" off currency, etc.

These little things haven't hurt the country in the past. They won't lead to an official government religion. Be realistic and let's win some elections.

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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:58 PM
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111. To each their own. nt
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:59 PM
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113. If that's what you need...
(five words, there's a contraction in there)
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:01 PM
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114. More than five words but...
Our rights as Americans do not depend on approval from others. We have those rights because we are Americans.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:29 PM
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116. What the hell are you talking about?
Being Democrats, we each have our own concept of God, or not as the case may be. Are you looking for God sound-bites??
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:34 PM
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120. I think he's looking for nasty vitriol
to fling back at them. Like:

"Republicans want the Inquisition back."
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:33 PM
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118. God helps those who help themselves. n/t
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:34 PM
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119. live and let live
.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:41 PM
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121. "Not in the Government"
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Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:00 PM
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124. A Separation of church and state law
America shall have a separation of church and state.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:03 PM
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126. "God is not a Republican"
or a Democrat
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:06 PM
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127. The Spirit with many names
that is all
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:14 PM
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128. "To each their own God."
"God is Dog spelled Backwards"

"Each follows their own God."

"And then God spoke: WHATever"
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:16 PM
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129. In Church - NOT In School
:-)

This is the DU member still known as CO Liberal.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:17 PM
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130. "Keep God out of government."
That, or "Believe? Keep it to yourself."

Or, more simply, "Beware the overtly religious politician."

I'm getting more and more irritated that there's a religious litmus test for whatever candidate runs, no matter what party they're from. Could you tell?
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:45 AM
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131. Yes, I can
Strongly, but NOT insanely!
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tillary adams Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:28 AM
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132. I am my brother's (and sister's) keeper
We must reclaim some of the language, including biblical language. Bush often inserts biblical allusions in his speeches. So, I suggest that we use this passage of scripture to reflect the idea that we are responsible for each other's welfare!
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Lefergus70 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:03 AM
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133. Democrats have faith in compassion.
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