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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:05 PM
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USA Today's FINAL electoral college county by county map
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm




Square miles of
counties won
Bush 2.51 million
Kerry 511,700

Population (2003) of
counties won
Bush 150,9 million
Kerry 103.6 million

Counties won by less than 5 percentage points
Bush 162
Kerry 131
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:07 PM
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1. I swear I'm gonna smack the shit out of anyone who ever tells me
to my face that "Bush won x number of square miles." When are these asswipes going to get it through their heads that dirt don't vote?
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:20 PM
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3. I've never heard that one..
though I have heard the pugs use the statistic about population...I tell them "Who gives a shit!?" It doesn't matter how many people LIVE in the red areas...All that matters are those that VOTED.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:24 PM
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5. I was referring to the way USA Today listed "square miles of counties"
and the fact that Freepers have actually said that to me before.

It's such a ludicrous concept that it makes USA Today and anyone else who cites the statistic look like complete fools.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:23 PM
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4. most of the country is purple.........pic
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:44 PM
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7. Nice! n/t
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:45 PM
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16. that looks weird
where'd you get it?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:28 PM
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19. i got it here.....read the whole thing ...this map is there...scroll down.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:35 PM
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21. that's the true map
further - there is a map that weights the states by their population size. That is even more accurate. The blue states have more population centers.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:46 PM
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8. Actually, in karl rove's America
dirt might be getting to vote in these elections...

Jax

Seriously, I hear you and you are right.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:07 PM
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2. I think we could create a utopia...
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 08:08 PM by leftyandproud
if everyone in the blue "clusters" got together and moved to California. California will be the new America. It looks like we could fit all of the progressives there. The rednecks can have the other 49 states and finally rename it "Jesusland".
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:27 PM
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6. What is with the Dem corridor along the Mississippi?
I have never noticed this nor heard of it anywhere.
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69KV Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:25 PM
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12. I noticed it too
It's one reason why Wisconsin and Minnesota are ours, and Iowa, Arkansas, and to a lesser extent Tennessee and Louisiana are considered swing states.

Looking at the map, it actually looks like Mississippi has swing state possibilities in the future.

But I don't have an explanation for it. If I were to guess, it would be: large African-American population in the southern states, and larger than usual labor union membership in the northern states. Only Missouri seems untouched. Before the railroads and the interstate highways, the Mississippi River was one of the main corridors of shipping (and therefore industry) in this country, and it still is to some extent.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:31 PM
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13. There's a map I saw somewhere on the web that shows the concentration...
of African Americans....and those blue areas correlate up the Miss River and the crescent across the south. Not enough population concentration to make much difference....then again, I'm not sure if we bother to turn out the vote in the south.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:33 PM
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14. Civilization
Whereever there is civilization, there are Democrats.
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xpunkisneatx Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:55 PM
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9. too...much...red...
Ugh. sorry but that picture makes me sad :( I dont care if there is a mile between neighbors in some of those areas...it still kills me to know they voted for the evil one

BTW...Don't crush me cause I am new...I've been lurking around these boards for awhile and I just signed up when they opened registration again...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:35 PM
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17. Hi xpunkisneatx!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:01 PM
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10. My rural county in Oregon went red?
Oh, shock. Ranchers, real estate, logging, hunting.

Shock, shock, shock. But I bet it was close. There are some merchants who won't get my business anymore, though, since they don't seem to give a rat's patooie about my future or the future of this country.
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mom-mad-about-bush Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:19 PM
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11. Redistricting.......
Redistricting has a lot to do with this red state thing. The republicans have been redistricting for years now, so they can have as many districts with a republican majority as possible. This helps them in ALL the elections not just presidential. THE WHOLE SYSTEM STINKS!
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:55 AM
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15. This map is useless
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:58 AM by SOS
Add up the total population of:

North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Kansas
Montana
Utah
Wyoming
Oklahoma
Idaho
Colorado

You get 15 million.

Now add up:

New York City
Chicago
Los Angeles

You get 15 million

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:47 PM
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18. West Virginia is the most upsetting state there
I feel like Don Corleone: "How did things ever get this far?"

Dems make up 60 percent of the state. And Bush won nearly every county.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:33 PM
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20. It's a stupid way to do it - many of those counties are very purple
very evenly split....

Bush won those counties - but by a hair. They could swing back politically.

There's a map out that weights the counties, and adjusts their relative sizes, by their POPULATIONS - a much more accurate way to do this. In this map the blue counties are huge in comparison to many of the thinly populated red counties. It's a much better visual rendition of the near fifty-fifty country we have become. And this map doesn't deal with the 'purple' issue I raised above.

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