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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:51 PM
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Whoa! Have you seen these Florida voting numbers?
Clearly, they reversed the numbers!

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:55 PM
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1. I respect your info but the headline is realy wrong
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:59 PM
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2. How is the headline wrong?
eom
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:00 AM
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3. Could you explain it a little more for me?
It looks like they're assuming everyone who is registered with a party to vote with that party. That doesn't seem like a valid assumption to me, is it?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 AM
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4. The difference in R's turning out to vote higher than expected is
grossly higher than the D's turnout above expectations - but in the optical scan precincts.

R- 0.4583847 D- 0.0092501
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prairie populist Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:06 AM
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5. Calling George Soros. Get on this, sir. Pronto.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:10 AM
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6. I cannot believe those numbers
Look just at Liberty County:

Liberty -- Op-Scan-Precinct Election Systems and Software, Inc. (ES&S)

Total voters = 4,075
% Dem = 88.3%
% Rep = 7.9%

Total votes cast = 3,021
# Kerry = 1,070
# Bush = 1,927

Percent Change:
Republican = 712.3%
Democrat = -59.9%


And that's not the only county with these types of numbers. Are we to believe that a county which is registered so heavily democrat went so overwhelmingly for Bush?

It makes no sense.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:17 AM
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7. Exactly
If you look at the registered Rep/Dem numbers for each county, in many of them, over 80% of the Dems jumped party lines and voted Rep? I don't think so! It's almost as though the numbers were reversed!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:20 AM
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9. That I could believe.
Some Democrats might have been influenced by the federal money for disaster relief (not even sure this was in an area effected)....but not to that degree.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 AM
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8. The DNC ought to canvass every single voter and get an affidavit
attesting to who they voted for. If people voted for Kerry, like I'd expect....then one could extrapolate to massive vote fraud.

I'd love to see the 2000 results posted to compare.

No friggen way that big a change, huriacanes or not.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:34 AM
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12. With the optical-scan ballots, they don't need affadavits. They
need to hand-count, and see if the machines were programmed wrong so Bush and Kerry votes were reversed.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:44 AM
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18. I was thinking the same thing
Liberty County with just over 3000 voters would be easy to canvass. It'd be interesting to find out why the Dems voted for Bush. :eyes:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:27 AM
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10. This pattern is cropping up all over the state
and there is no way in hell these numbers are real.

There is no way the Repugs got that many of their voters out and the Dems didn't even compete in comparison. I'm sorry. I live here. I know what I saw with my own eyes.

Here's a link with comparatives for every county. There is definitely a pattern here and of course it is always in Bush's favor. Gee what a coincidence.

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:32 AM
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11. From a general observation
Doesn't it seem like a lot of the numbers are reversed from the exit polls?
Hmmmm
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:34 AM
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13. How can we get the media to investigate this?
The theft seems so obvious to me. Why won't the media or the Dems look into this?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:41 AM
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16. Isn't it odd?
I've purposely refrained from watching much news for the past 2 days but what I have seen, not one word about Florida voting this year. You would think the media would be very interested in seeing that Florida did it right this time.

But wait, silly me, when has the media ever focused on the vulnerabilities of evoting? And so far as the Dems in congress....their silence is DEAFENING!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:49 AM
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20. My sister just told me that MSNBC has some article on their
site about how e-voting passed the test. :eyes:

I'll send this link to a select few tomorrow and see what happens. I'll also send it to my cousin who is a lawyer in Tallahassee. He volunteered to be on Kerry's legal team. Maybe he'll know something.
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feminazi Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:37 AM
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14. wow
Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 12:44 AM by feminazi
i don't believe this either. thanks for the post.

ps: i just emailed this to palast.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:39 AM
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15. This is the smoking gun. The question is: What do we do now?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:41 AM
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17. Have you contact the person whose name appears on the page? eom
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:47 AM
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19. No, not yet
This is something we should tackle tomorrow. I found this url just an hour ago while reading through some of the comments on Atrios' blog.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:52 AM
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21. Good find, BTW. eom
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:53 AM
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22. Front page material.....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:58 AM
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23. QUICK...Everybody look at Ohio !!!! Look..Over There... a Shark!!
This was the plan from day ONE.. Jebbie could NOT have FL be the center of the vote fraud THIS time, so it was deemed that Ohio would be it..

Watch for The SOS to get a choice admin job.. He did his job well..

and got Jebbie off the hook..

They just tweaked things a bit here and there to assure that * would "get" Fla..but not by anything weird..they hoped people woould be diverted by Ohio, and not even notice..

I would like to see the stats on early votes.. How many early votes "vanished" after they were cast?? Can we compare the sign ins for EV's and the sign ins for election day.. at least in some small counties, to see who voted when..and how those votes were stored..
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:25 AM
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24. Kick
:kick:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:30 AM
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25. I sent this link to Krugman.
Maybe he will help us. :shrug:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:33 AM
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26. The opical scan ballot readers must have been mis-programmed (nt)
nt
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