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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:23 PM
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Let them eat Jesus
This should be our new saying for the working poor who can't afford to live, or Seniors who can't afford their medicine but voted for Bush because of "morals."
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:25 PM
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1. LOL!!!! Love it! n/t
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:26 PM
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2. Yum!
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:26 PM
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3. I agree. Let's take all we can from the spoils and create our own
support culture.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:26 PM
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4. :)
wow
i really CAN smile today.

that's T-Shirt shirt quality.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:27 PM
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5. Jesus was made of delicious wafers and wine. Did you know that?
Just a little trivia for ya.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:27 PM
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6. I suppose if you're Catholic you already do
n/t
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:33 PM
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8. Would go well with some cheese
Jeezits or Cheesus
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:36 PM
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12. Um....
Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see the humor in that. What's the difference between what you're saying here and what you complain the wingnuts say about Muslims and other religions?
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:50 PM
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18. The humor is that cheese goes well with wine and crackers
What was my complaint again? Fuck'em if they can't take a joke
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:45 PM
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15. LMFAO
I think that's hilarious.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:04 PM
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24. Jeezits! That's the most I laughed in two days
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:49 PM
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25. Here, help yourself....
Behold, the power of Cheesus...

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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:56 PM
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26. LMAO!!!!!!!
I had heard that...but as I'm not a Catholic...I thought it was only rumor.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:28 PM
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7. Funny! nt
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:34 PM
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9. Ahem!
Look, I understand exactly where you're coming from because I feel the same way about the damned fundies. But I'm a Christian, and you just can't paint all Christians as right-wing fundie evangelical nutballs. We're just as disgusted and furious and frustrated as you are. We work hard to try to show as many people as we can that Jesus was a liberal, is the ultimate liberal, and to do his work of serving and helping people, not hating and hurting them. In fact, I'm about to leave my church of ten years because it's been taken over by wingnut fundies who think Shrub is God himself, and I won't take that. It absolutely breaks my heart, but I feel I have to do it.

My personal opinion is that right-wing fundie evangelicals are a cult and they have twisted and distorted Christianity into something unrecognizable. But please don't paint us all with the same brush. We're just as angry and resentful and heartbroken as you.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:36 PM
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11. right-wing fundie evangelicals are a cult
:toast:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:38 PM
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13. Yes, they are indeed,
but they do NOT represent the majority of Christians! You just think they do because they're the loudest and make themselvess the most visisble, especially when they're thinking up endless ways to butt into people's lives and make their personal decisions for them. Real Christians are too busy serving and helping others instead of hating and hurting them.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:51 PM
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19. Oh, you don't know the half of it!
(Or maybe you do if you've ever been to any of their services.)(

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FIGHT! Take this country back one town and state at a time!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:59 PM
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22. I think most of us are very supportive of the teachings of Jesus
I know I am, even though I'm an atheist, but no belief in the supernatural is required to accept simple common sense: love your neighbor as yourself (good idea but awfully damned difficult to do...)
and the "golden rule" (way older than the beginnings of Christianity) which even animals other than the human species understand to some degree.
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BushRel4Kerry JH Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:20 AM
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28. You may believe that and it's your right to do so
But your statement that "no belief in the supernatural is required to accept simple common sense" dismisses the millions of liberal people of all religions who do believe in God, as they understand God.

Why can you simply choose not to believe without assuming that those who do lack common sense or are pathetic, stupid losers?

Jeanny
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:34 PM
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10. LOL!
:toast:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:39 PM
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14. do you mind if i borrow that? It's brilliant!
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:48 PM
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16. Not at all
Be my guest.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:49 PM
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17. thanks, you're the best
and that phrase nails it.:toast:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:52 PM
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20. We Catholics already do, and are often mocked for it.

I hope you don't intend to mock Catholics because we're not at fault here. Some Catholics were fooled into voting for ** and I'm sad about it, and angry at the clergy (also a minority of all Catholic clergy) who told them to vote for **. But a lot of us voted for Kerry, who is also a Catholic, as are Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Dennis Kucinich, and many other progressives in this country. Many other progressives, like Michael Moore, were raised Catholic so many of their values are Catholic values. (That's not to say that people raised Protestant have no values, of course, and I was raised Protestant myself.)

But Catholic social teaching truly supports caring for the poor and sick, the elderly and disabled, and puts its money where its mouth is more than most other churches. Catholic social teaching supports labor unions, which the Republicans have fought for years, (supported in their anti-union fight, sad to say, by many Protestants of the conservative sort.) Catholic social teaching opposes capital punishment and most war as well as abortion.

Instead, I would say of the fundie Protestants, "Let them eat their Bibles."

Those big fat, leather-bound, gold-letter Bibles that they tote to church and Sunday School and often display on the dashboards of their cars would make a large meal, and they often seem to worship the Bible more than Jesus.

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Jimmy D Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:58 PM
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21. I am pretty lucky
I am retire with a ok pension and my wife works in the medical field,
I assume when these so called Christians lose their jobs they will wake
up. If they dont Fuck them.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:02 PM
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23. What about us Working Poor who voted for Kerry?
What, another of these "I hate the smelly masses because they're stupid Bush-bots" threads?

Shouldn't this be in the "GD-fight and Bitch" forum? Not the "GD-Hugs and Sympathy" forum?

I may be poor, but I fucking HATE NASCAR, and I DO own a fucking bar of soap, too, Volvo-boy!
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BushRel4Kerry JH Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:16 AM
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27. It's time for the left to stop mocking religion
I've had it!

There are plenty of liberal, Democratic, and other left-leaning Christians. Some of them would even describe themselves as evangelical. They are vastly concerned for peace and justice.

The left has got to stop dismissing us. They have got to stop tarring all Christians with the "fundie" brush. They have to stop being hostile to Christianity.

Or more and more Christians will leave the left. And we will have nowhere to go.

If we are going to succeed on the left, we have to include and not exclude. And a good place to start is by ceasing to bash all those who have a religious belief system.

Don't be fooled by my low post count. Under my other DU identity, I have somewhere around 650 and have been posting/reading DU almost since its inception. I'm not a troll. But I am a liberal Christian and I'm sick and tired of being automatically discounted, laughed at, sneered at, and ridiculed by so many posts here on DU.

It's time to grow up. If we keep shooting ourselves in the foot, pretty soon we won't be able to stand at all.

Jeanny
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:29 AM
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29. It's time for Christians to denounce the fundamentalists
It's time for Christians to educate themselves about the Dominionists, and denounce them as the most un-Christian sect in Christendom.

It's time for the majority of Christians to make it clear that they do not belief in endtimes prophecy, and reject all Christians whose political machinations are designed to bring about the "Rapture."

It's time for Christians to support the separation of church and state that for over 200 years has kept this country free of the type of religious wars that have destroyed other nations.

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BushRel4Kerry JH Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:33 AM
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30. They do, again and again
However, when media needs a "Christian voice," they go to Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. They are starting to go to Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo, but there is a broader spectrum.

Local pastors talk about this stuff all the time. Denominational websites may not talk about the Rapture, but they all have portions that include statements and information about many peace and justice issues.

The liberal church has not been silent, but they also don't get much time at the microphone.

Jeanny
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:02 AM
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34. Here, here
I think that if real Christians (not the fundies) want to keep thier religion pure and respectable they need to take a stand against those who have hijacked the term "Chirstian" to advance an agenda of hate, intolerance, and frankly, insanity.

I have no problem with people who practice their faith quietly (meaning they don't interfere in the affairs of those who don't believe as they do) and who walk their talk. But I would really like to see some backlash against the dominionist/rapture ready/christofascist wing of Christianity.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:45 AM
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31. Everyone is hurting here today
BushRel4Kerry JH... some use a bit of black humor to crack some jokes in order to feel better. Please don't take it as an attack on your beliefs. My guess is that most DU'ers would consider themselves to be Christian.

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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:49 AM
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32. Fundamentalism is extremism in ALL religions
Moderation in all things...moderation in all things. (But not in politics; liberalism all the way, baby! At least, for me.)
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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:51 AM
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33. Sign outside Little Rock business - "let them eat cake"
your post echoed this - but I am really zoned out right now.
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