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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:15 AM
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If Gray Davis loses the election and if Arnold wins by a comfortable margin, are the BBV people going to say it was election fraud?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:19 AM
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2. question
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 09:23 AM by KG
if ah-nold win because dems. vote for him, are they those dems DINOs that are actually greens that should be attacked with lupine ferocity? :)
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:21 AM
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4. who are the bbv people?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:23 AM
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6. bbv- Black Box Voting
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:23 AM
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7. blackboxvoting.com
http://www.blackboxvoting.com

certainly worth learning more about as it pertains to who our votes are counted or not.

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:22 AM
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5. i guess it depends on what the evidence shows
are you not concerned with unverifyable voting results?

peace
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:24 AM
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8. Probably
But who cares.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:25 AM
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9. exactly
the problem

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:28 AM
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10. We're ALL going to say it was election fraud
Why? Because the good people of California had a chance to recall Davis in November 2002 and they chose not to. Davis' recall numbers still aren't looking too good right now but Bustamonte's are. Remember, the Repukes have to cross TWO hurdles and the Dems have the advantage in Part 2 of the ballot. Bustamonte is reminding California Latinos that the hated race-baiting Wilson is in on Ahnold's campaign and that's going a LONG way to boost Bustaomte's numbers. For the first time in several weeks, I'm encouraged.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:15 PM
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16. His name is Bustamante.
Please have the courtesy to spell his name right even if he's a Hispanic. You spelled in wrong two different ways.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 09:50 AM
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11. the BBV people?
How f***ing condescending.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:26 PM
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18. It's not condascending
nt
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:03 AM
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12. Do we have to start enforcing the short thread post posts again?
As annoying as I may be, I don't start simple threads with one word questions. But I will if you like...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:05 AM
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13. 4 CA counties use touch-screen balloting. One is Alameda, in which
(I believe) Oakland, Richmond, Berkeley, Emeryville, Concordia, are located. I guess people will be taking a close look at the vote count there.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:08 PM
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14. Riverside has it too
and I have reason to mistrust them- puke county.lost my first registration, disenfranchised me first cycle I live here.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:12 PM
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15. I think this election will be suspect because of
the way it has to be thrown together in a hurry. Many precincts are complaining loudly about this.

Even if Davis or Bustamante wins, the Republicans will say that it wasn't fair. You wait and see if I am wrong.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:55 PM
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17. Is that even a question?
The main difference between the BBV paranoids and the former Iraqi Minister of Information is that the BBV paranoids believe in what they say, whereas Comical Ali lied to the Iraqis.
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:44 PM
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20. The "BBV Paranoids"
Now we have a name for the club.

I am sure thay are very busy avoiding assassination. Keep moving.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:48 PM
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22. lol
Yes, indeed, they hold the biggest story since Watergate, they have to keep a low profile because of the important, dangerous knowledge they posses. Real cloak and dagger stuff, lol. <X-files theme playing>
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:47 PM
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21. Are you NUTS?!
Seriously, have you even looked at the work the people at BBV have done, and the facts that have come out about these machines?

OMG, I can't believe there is a single person who doesn't believe our election system is about to be flushed down the toilet for good!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:12 PM
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24. Kind of sad ain't it Diamondsoul?
These people could be on fire and wonder where all the heat is coming from :eyes:
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:33 PM
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19. Is this a trick question?
:shrug:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:56 PM
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23. maybe, and the reverse may happen too
if the Dem wins, the freepers will likely cry fraud, but it would focus on fraud involving immigrants rather than machines.
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