nader dropping out?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

got this earlier today
"Ralph will be holding a Press Conference Thursday, October 28th at 11:00 a.m. (EDT).

It will be covered by CNN, NBC, and C-Span 2 live among others.

Please tune in!

Nader/Camejo 2004"
usually, they state the topic in advance with these emails and dont know why nbc and cnn would cover a nader event live....

[Dickie Flatt]

1. Topic: Why Ralph Nader Is Better Than You [n/t]

[donheld]

33. What are you talking about?

:shrug:

[Dickie Flatt]

42. It's a joke. If you know who ralph nader is you'll get it.

[Mojambo]

2. Interesting. n/t

[fujiyama]

3. I'm not holding my breath

This means ego is about the size of Bush's. His one and only intention is to destroy Kerry's chances and the democratic party.

In the small chance he does drop out, I will eat my words. It would have been a great way to get the GOP to have spent money on something that went no where.

[wellstone_democrat]

5. Yeah, if he drops, I will take back all my comments

in payment.

Until then? Ralph, you are a gold plated assclown.

[flowomo]

6. sorry... he put that asshole in the White House in 2000...

he is a gold plated assclown forever.

[wellstone_democrat]

10. So true, he is ALWAYS an asshat

and an assclown and a rectal suppository

[noiretextatique]

39. i didn't know nader got appointed to SCOTUS

didn't know he was one of the supreme five either.
i learn something new everyday at DU. who knew?

[TrustingDog]

19. maybe Ralphie is the real October surprise....

and turn on the repugs that fed him the cash to do so...

would be sweet, but I'm a dreamer.

[Sarrek420]

4. YES

I hope its true.. If so, its going to give Bush some big heartburn..

hehe :)

[aquart]

7. The time was before the prick got on the ballot in swing states.

If he does drop out, I will not hate him less.

[fujiyama]

9. That's true

He's already on in the states where he may have some effect - WI, IA, MN, and NM.

On second thought, I'm not taking back any words. He's still the royal douchebag.

[aquart]

17. Royal? Well, he had hopes.

[berner59]

8. another October surprise??

hmmm...Ralph should announce that he's dropping out and tell his supporters to all vote for Kerry...yes!!!

Gelespie will say "but but but...that's not fair!!"

[Eric J in MN]

11. I predict he'll say that he WOULD be dropping out if Democrats

hadn't been so mean in trying to keep him off the ballot.

[Dookus]

12. yep

I suspect that's what he'll do.

[gardenista]

16. Ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! nt

[JGG]

31. He'll use the premise as a teaser to get some press.

He just wants attention and he knows doing this will get the press to show up.

[gardenista]

35. Nader is the ultimate cynic. nt

[OutsourceBush]

27. Yea, repukes have invested too much for him to go away

he will most likely try to get some air time to snag a few more hundred votes from Kerry. I could be wrong...

[Carla in Ca]

29. Ahhh, maybe a 'take the money and run' tactic?

He had to have read the open letter from 'Nader's Raiders' last week urging all to vote for Kerry. And yesterday, about 7 people showed up at his speech. Not a surprise, could have been sooner.

[gmoney]

13. don't count these chickens

Nader seems madder at Democrats for allegedly supressing him, so it wouldn't surprise me if he throws his "support" to *... that could swing as many as 15 voters.

Either that, or he learned from * the "major policy announcement" red herring to get the networks to carry a standard stump speech on live TV

[ochazuke]

14. Prediction: No*Freaking*Way

I hope I'm proved wrong, but ego trumps common sense with Nader.

[zaj]

15. Sounds like he has a "Major Policy Announcement" to make...

"John Kerry and the Democrats suck... I'm endorsing *MY* President George W. Bush"
- Ralph Nader, October 28, 2004

[waldnorm]

21. If that Happened. . .

I'd see that as Perot throwing his support to * in 2000 . . . if he did that, it would CONFIRM Nader is working for Rove. It would be too surreal, and more likely it would suppress the Nader vote (maybe intentional to effect races down the ballot, while not affecting Kerry, because I do not see that much difference). Nader has been attributed to making a difference for senatorships in Washington, Michigan, and Florida for 2000, because of the voting down the ballot aspect, and made a difference in very close races.

More likely it's a stump speech or sticking it to the Democrats and asking people to vote Independent, etc. It could be damning to both parties, too, maybe. He could encourage disaffected Republicans to vote Libertarian, for example.

If he throws his support to the Democrats, I'd be surprised, but I would attribute to that decision to Peter Camejo probably more than to Nader (Camejo's from my state, California). Maybe Peter Camejo is taking heed with what Arianna Huffington eventually decided to do with her bid for governor in California last year(throw her support to Davis and go against recall. And then make a point about Arnold's groping past). In her case, it was too late, but in this case, with things still very close, it could have a bit of a rippling effect. Then again, I don't recall Camejo advising voters to vote "no" on the recall (maybe someone else in California can remind me, who's here). In the past, Nader has called Kerry "presidential" and he could condemn the Democrats while saying positive things about Kerry (with some shortcomings) and very damning things about *.

But if Nader's going to attempt how there's little difference between the two parties, then yawn. I don't think he's going to really influence that much at this point. We've heard it all before.

[MajorFlaw]

18. I spent the greater part of the 2000 campaign assuming that, at the

right time, Nader would do the right thing. His unwillingness to do so may well have imposed four years of shrub on us. I have no faith whatsoever, none, that he will do the right thing this year either.

[Sydnie]

20. Perhaps he wants to have is say about the missing explosives?

Not sure what he could say that would matter right about now though ... Other than to drop out.

[NightTrain]

22. I seriously doubt that will happen.

If it does, however, I'll have regained a lot of my respect for Mr. Nader!

[dave502d]

23. I had a post about this a week ago.

I just don't know,I think he is just to pig headed to dropping out.
Nadar can go to hell with Rove.

[w4rma]

24. My question is: Will Ralph Nader get more airplay than Sen. Kerry has

from CNN and NBC? I don't think CNN or NBC has carried a single solitary speech by Sen. Kerry. But, both CNN and NBC have carried quite a few full uninterupted speeches by Bush, just recently.

[waldnorm]

25. Uh, Wait a Second . . .

Could we have a LINK to this news, somewhere, please? I can't find it in Google News (in fact, there's a story today, where he insists he's NOT dropping out: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/local_18383340.shtml), and there's also an article that states that Nader could effect the outcome of the election in Minnesota http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/10031050.htm (though I very much doubt it. I think more Wellstoners are going to want Bush gone and vote for Kerry).

[pinniped]

26. I think that repuke $$ taking whore is here to stay...

Just saw this in Wednesday's paper:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/27/MNGLE9H2ST1.DTL

No dose of reality will drive Ralph Nader from his presidential campaign.

His vice presidential running mate from 2000 didn't endorse him, some of the John Kerry-bashing Swift Boat veterans gave him money, legal challenges kept him off the ballot in 16 states, and onetime backer Michael Moore crawled on his knees, begging him on national television to drop out of the race.

Yet even though the independent candidate for president is polling about 2 percent or less nearly everywhere, his presence has Democrats on edge in at least six battleground states where the only thing separating President Bush and Kerry, the Democratic challenger, is the margin of polling error and diehard supporters of the 70-year-old consumer advocate.

And nothing will stop Nader or his backers from what they see as their mission to right the republic.

More:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/27/MNGLE9H2ST1.DTL

[global1]

28. Why Doesn't Nader Do What He Does Best .....

fight for the rights of American people. He's been successful at that in the past and actually accomplished much. He's over his
head running for President - but he has served a useful purpose in the past fighting for the consumer. Maybe he can tackle
'computerized voting', etc.

[Swamp Rat]

30. Here he comes to save the day!

[SoCalDem]

32. Whatever damage there is, has already been done..

his name will be on printed ballots....it's too late to change them now...

and he's been on all the talk shows for the last few weeks,trashing Kerry...

He's probably just out of invitations to appear, and the repubes probably cancelled the credit cards they gave him..

He's irrelevant,but if his name is on ballots, there will be a few idiots who will still vote for him..

[Technowitch]

34. His ego is too big to do the honorable thing and quit.

[sleipnir]

36. I'll believe it when I see it.

Until then, the fight isn't over.

[autorank]

37. He becomes entirely irrelevant if he stays in and Kerry wins.

This presumes he's not paid off and can think rationally. But hey, straner things have happened.

[genius]

38. If he drops out and endorses Kerry, I'll take back all those bad things

I've been saying about him.

[noiretextatique]

40. doubt it...last i heard, he was courting republicans

who "can't" vote for kerry..

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. I sometimes think he believes he can best serve America

by throwing the election to *, to make things so truly fucked up that even the wingnuts will reject him (*).

I think he overestimates the intelligence of the American wingnut.