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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:56 PM
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nader dropping out?
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 10:57 PM by ann_coulter_is_a_man
got this earlier today
"Ralph will be holding a Press Conference Thursday, October 28th at 11:00 a.m. (EDT).

It will becovered byCNN, NBC, and C-Span 2 live among others.

Please tune in!

Nader/Camejo 2004"
usually, they state the topic in advance with these emails and dont know why nbc and cnn would cover a nader event live....
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:58 PM
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1. Topic: Why Ralph Nader Is Better Than You [n/t]
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:40 AM
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33. What are you talking about?
:shrug:
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 06:10 AM
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42. It's a joke. If you know who ralph nader is you'll get it.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:58 PM
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2. Interesting. n/t
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:58 PM
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3. I'm not holding my breath
This means ego is about the size of Bush's. His one and only intention is to destroy Kerry's chances and the democratic party.

In the small chance he does drop out, I will eat my words. It would have been a great way to get the GOP to have spent money on something that went no where.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:59 PM
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5. Yeah, if he drops, I will take back all my comments
in payment.

Until then? Ralph, you are a gold plated assclown.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:01 PM
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6. sorry... he put that asshole in the White House in 2000...
he is a gold plated assclown forever.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:06 PM
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10. So true, he is ALWAYS an asshat
and an assclown and a rectal suppository
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:31 AM
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39. i didn't know nader got appointed to SCOTUS
didn't know he was one of the supreme five either.
i learn something new everyday at DU. who knew?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:20 PM
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19. maybe Ralphie is the real October surprise....
and turn on the repugs that fed him the cash to do so...

would be sweet, but I'm a dreamer.

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Sarrek420 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:59 PM
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4. YES
I hope its true.. If so, its going to give Bush some big heartburn..

hehe :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:01 PM
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7. The time was before the prick got on the ballot in swing states.
If he does drop out, I will not hate him less.

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:05 PM
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9. That's true
He's already on in the states where he may have some effect - WI, IA, MN, and NM.

On second thought, I'm not taking back any words. He's still the royal douchebag.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:16 PM
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17. Royal? Well, he had hopes.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:02 PM
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8. another October surprise??
hmmm...Ralph should announce that he's dropping out and tell his supporters to all vote for Kerry...yes!!!

Gelespie will say "but but but...that's not fair!!"
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:06 PM
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11. I predict he'll say that he WOULD be dropping out if Democrats
hadn't been so mean in trying to keep him off the ballot.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:08 PM
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12. yep
I suspect that's what he'll do.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:14 PM
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16. Ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! nt
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JGG Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:36 AM
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31. He'll use the premise as a teaser to get some press.
He just wants attention and he knows doing this will get the press to show up.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:54 AM
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35. Nader is the ultimate cynic. nt
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:54 PM
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27. Yea, repukes have invested too much for him to go away
he will most likely try to get some air time to snag a few more hundred votes from Kerry. I could be wrong...
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:12 AM
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29. Ahhh, maybe a 'take the money and run' tactic?
He had to have read the open letter from 'Nader's Raiders' last week urging all to vote for Kerry. And yesterday, about 7 people showed up at his speech. Not a surprise, could have been sooner.

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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:09 PM
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13. don't count these chickens
Nader seems madder at Democrats for allegedly supressing him, so it wouldn't surprise me if he throws his "support" to *... that could swing as many as 15 voters.

Either that, or he learned from * the "major policy announcement" red herring to get the networks to carry a standard stump speech on live TV
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:10 PM
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14. Prediction: No*Freaking*Way
I hope I'm proved wrong, but ego trumps common sense with Nader.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:11 PM
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15. Sounds like he has a "Major Policy Announcement" to make...
"John Kerry and the Democrats suck... I'm endorsing *MY* President George W. Bush"
- Ralph Nader, October 28, 2004
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waldnorm Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:31 PM
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21. If that Happened. . .
I'd see that as Perot throwing his support to * in 2000 . . . if he did that, it would CONFIRM Nader is working for Rove. It would be too surreal, and more likely it would suppress the Nader vote (maybe intentional to effect races down the ballot, while not affecting Kerry, because I do not see that much difference). Nader has been attributed to making a difference for senatorships in Washington, Michigan, and Florida for 2000, because of the voting down the ballot aspect, and made a difference in very close races.

More likely it's a stump speech or sticking it to the Democrats and asking people to vote Independent, etc. It could be damning to both parties, too, maybe. He could encourage disaffected Republicans to vote Libertarian, for example.

If he throws his support to the Democrats, I'd be surprised, but I would attribute to that decision to Peter Camejo probably more than to Nader (Camejo's from my state, California). Maybe Peter Camejo is taking heed with what Arianna Huffington eventually decided to do with her bid for governor in California last year(throw her support to Davis and go against recall. And then make a point about Arnold's groping past). In her case, it was too late, but in this case, with things still very close, it could have a bit of a rippling effect. Then again, I don't recall Camejo advising voters to vote "no" on the recall (maybe someone else in California can remind me, who's here). In the past, Nader has called Kerry "presidential" and he could condemn the Democrats while saying positive things about Kerry (with some shortcomings) and very damning things about *.

But if Nader's going to attempt how there's little difference between the two parties, then yawn. I don't think he's going to really influence that much at this point. We've heard it all before.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:16 PM
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18. I spent the greater part of the 2000 campaign assuming that, at the
right time, Nader would do the right thing. His unwillingness to do so may well have imposed four years of shrub on us. I have no faith whatsoever, none, that he will do the right thing this year either.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:29 PM
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20. Perhaps he wants to have is say about the missing explosives?
Not sure what he could say that would matter right about now though ... Other than to drop out.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:33 PM
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22. I seriously doubt that will happen.
If it does, however, I'll have regained a lot of my respect for Mr. Nader!
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:38 PM
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23. I had a post about this a week ago.
I just don't know,I think he is just to pig headed to dropping out.
Nadar can go to hell with Rove.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:44 PM
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24. My question is: Will Ralph Nader get more airplay than Sen. Kerry has
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 11:45 PM by w4rma
from CNN and NBC? I don't think CNN or NBC has carried a single solitary speech by Sen. Kerry. But, both CNN and NBC have carried quite a few full uninterupted speeches by Bush, just recently.
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waldnorm Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:48 PM
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25. Uh, Wait a Second . . .
Could we have a LINK to this news, somewhere, please? I can't find it in Google News (in fact, there's a story today, where he insists he's NOT dropping out: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/local_... ), and there's also an article that states that Nader could effect the outcome of the election in Minnesota http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politic... (though I very much doubt it. I think more Wellstoners are going to want Bush gone and vote for Kerry).
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:50 PM
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26. I think that repuke $$ taking whore is here to stay...
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 11:52 PM by sfg25
Just saw this in Wednesday's paper:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronic...

No dose of reality will drive Ralph Nader from his presidential campaign.

His vice presidential running mate from 2000 didn't endorse him, some of the John Kerry-bashing Swift Boat veterans gave him money, legal challenges kept him off the ballot in 16 states, and onetime backer Michael Moore crawled on his knees, begging him on national television to drop out of the race.

Yet even though the independent candidate for president is polling about 2 percent or less nearly everywhere, his presence has Democrats on edge in at least six battleground states where the only thing separating President Bush and Kerry, the Democratic challenger, is the margin of polling error and diehard supporters of the 70-year-old consumer advocate.

And nothing will stop Nader or his backers from what they see as their mission to right the republic.

More:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronic...
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:03 AM
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28. Why Doesn't Nader Do What He Does Best .....
fight for the rights of American people. He's been successful at that in the past and actually accomplished much. He's over his
head running for President - but he has served a useful purpose in the past fighting for the consumer. Maybe he can tackle
'computerized voting', etc.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:24 AM
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30. Here he comes to save the day!








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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:36 AM
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32. Whatever damage there is, has already been done..
his name will be on printed ballots....it's too late to change them now...

and he's been on all the talk shows for the last few weeks,trashing Kerry...

He's probably just out of invitations to appear, and the repubes probably cancelled the credit cards they gave him..

He's irrelevant,but if his name is on ballots, there will be a few idiots who will still vote for him..
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:41 AM
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34. His ego is too big to do the honorable thing and quit.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:58 AM
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36. I'll believe it when I see it.
Until then, the fight isn't over.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:18 AM
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37. He becomes entirely irrelevant if he stays in and Kerry wins.
This presumes he's not paid off and can think rationally. But hey, straner things have happened.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:26 AM
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38. If he drops out and endorses Kerry, I'll take back all those bad things
I've been saying about him.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:32 AM
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40. doubt it...last i heard, he was courting republicans
who "can't" vote for kerry..
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:58 AM
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41. I sometimes think he believes he can best serve America
by throwing the election to *, to make things so truly fucked up that even the wingnuts will reject him (*).

I think he overestimates the intelligence of the American wingnut.
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