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NoMoreMrNiceGuy Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:42 PM
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I've been reading about "peak oil" lately...any opinions?
This guy Mike Ruppert seems to be a trustworthy person. Oil industry experts outside this country seem to be confirming what he is saying. The only thing that bother me about Ruppert is he is selling a book for profit that describes how society will come crashing down sooner rather than later due to the lack of oil...so what good is that profit if society is coming down? I guess he could argue he is trying to get the word out and the publisher isn't gonna print it for free....yet something doesn't feel right. Has anyone read his book "Crossing the Rubicon"?

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:43 PM
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1. More:
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 01:44 PM by BlueEyedSon
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:55 PM
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2. Peak Oil is very real, and is being largely ignored or
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 01:57 PM by ixion
blown off as preposterous.

As another poster mentioned on a similar thread, everything in our economy is tied to oil, and when that resource is gone or becomes prohibitively expensive, things will get very bad very quickly. Yet sadly, our 'idiot light' culture (that is, not dealing with the issue until it goes critical ) has made this nearly impossible to head off. We should have been pursuing alternative fuel sources for decades now, but instead we've bet the farm on the internal combustion engine, and along with that, oil.



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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:52 PM
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11. everyone(almost) is in denial and if any candidate for office
brings this up they won't get elected. The American people want to drive their SUVs and gas guzzlers, they don't want to conserve and they don't want to hear the truth. Denial, plain and simple.
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uberotto Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:06 PM
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3. Look in the Economics Fourm for post from GoreN4...
He usually has a lot of interesting information on the subject.

Here's one post of his with some good information...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=114&topic_id=10171#10195



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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:13 PM
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4. it's a huge book
that he's spent years on and you don't think he should make any money off of it?

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:46 PM
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5. Interesting piece on oil supplies on UK Channel 4 News tonight
http://www.channel4.com/news/2004/10/week_5/26_oil.html
And, the US government says, Saudi will supply 22m barrels a day, around 19 per cent.

The Saudis very rarely speak publicly about future oil capacity but there are signs the Kingdom is worried their fields are being pushed too hard.

Al-Husseini has just retired as Head of Exploration at Aramco and he told us in a rare interview, that estimates of future global supplies from the EIA, the US government's energy think tank, are simply too high.

He also said he didn't see a price move below $50 a barrel any time soon.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:48 PM
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6. Yeah: we're fucked.
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Fusions_Minion Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:41 PM
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10. I take comfort..
in knowing that we are fucked, rather than being uncertain as to whether we are fucked or not. This way I, hydrocarbon man, can mentally prepare for the fucking.
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maxsmom Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:06 PM
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7. sites with more info on peak oil
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:19 PM
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8. And if you are too lazy to read,
Watch the video

Since World War II North Americans have invested much of their newfound wealth in suburbia. It has promised a sense of space, affordability, family life and upward mobility. As the population of suburban sprawl has exploded in the past 50 years, so too the suburban way of life has become embedded in the American consciousness.

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The consequences of inaction in the face of this global crisis are enormous. What does Oil Peak mean for North America? As energy prices skyrocket in the coming years, how will the populations of suburbia react to the collapse of their dream? Are today's suburbs destined to become the slums of tomorrow? And what can be done NOW, individually and collectively, to avoid The End of Suburbia ?


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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:36 PM
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9. > what good is that profit ? He still has to make a living.
Peak oil seems like it should be a common sense thing, there's only so much oil under there to be drilled out. And it seems insane to me to see something like an H2 dropping the kids off at school, but here we are... Assuming we don't get invaded by aliens from Planet 10, oil and possibly water are the big challenges facing us.
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