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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:32 PM
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Poll question: Which GOP President is the most worthless?
limiting it to GOP presidents since TR.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:34 PM
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1. Excellent Query.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:34 PM
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2. I don't think there is going to be a contest here.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:36 PM
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3. Had to Go Harding
Although Bush II is right behind him.
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KCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:37 PM
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4. honestly,
I don't know anyone before Ford (born in 71, so I existed during his presidency, but Carter was the first pres. I was cognizant of).

I think it's an unfair question.. Reagan, Bush the Elected or Bush the Unelected.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:40 PM
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5. The republican party
look at the list of republican presidents since TR,bad and getting worse,the last two clowns must be the worst of the worst.What happened to the party of Lincoln? they never mention his name anymore,d'anny coulter think that Honest Abe was a flaming liberal,it5 is now the party of Lott a flaming racist.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:41 PM
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6. Boy, looking at that list the Repubs suck as Presidents
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:47 PM
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7. I voted Ford
for pardoning Nixon on practically his first day in office, and for his stupid ass comment that the Soviet Union did not dominate Eastern Europe. (He said it in front of a group of Polish-Americans, if I remember correctly.) Anywho, he could give Dubya a run for his money in the clueless contest.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:19 PM
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12. Ford was a dummy but he cant be that dumb
Jimmy Carter and him are friends.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 AM
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33. Ford is Dumb BUT honest...
Something that me and Jimmy can respect, if not vote for.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 01:34 AM
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46. They are very good friends and Carter has elicited Ford's help
in many of his good works throughout the world. As you can see, Jimmy Carter is a favorite of mine. He can see the good in Ford. Ford pardoned Nixon to heal the country, even though it cost him the election. I always felt that Ford was good at heart, unlike most Republicans.

This was very perceptive of you, JohnKleeb, especially since you did not witness this firsthand!:-)
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:20 PM
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13. I Almost Agree With You.
I was 19 and soooo full of hope on the day that Ford took office. I felt a sense of relief and joy when he said "My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is OVER." Unfortunately, he went down at a 90 degree angle after that.:spank:

I still put bush jr :dunce: as #1 and Harding :shrug: as #2.

ANY D over any r in '04! :bounce:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:08 AM
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35. I'll give Ford the benefit of the doubt
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 09:09 AM by RatTerrier
While his decision to pardon Nixon was highly unpopular, I understand his reasoning for it.

His belief was that a prolonged Nixon trial would bring down the country, and open old sores, at a time when the US really neeeded to move on. Resigning in disgrace was punishment enough, he reasoned. And time has proven him correct.

He was thanked and commended by both Carter and Clinton for keeping the country together.

And don't forget, he was progressive on a few issues, such as women's rights. His main weakness was the economy.

He was the last trustworthy Republican president.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:33 AM
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39. Good points and true
At the very least, Ford was a decent and honorable person. Not like the current resident of the white house. :bounce:
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 11:53 AM
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40. I agree, the last of them
I think Betty Ford helped to keep the President grounded during that turbulent time. I liked her too.

BTW, he was hospitalized a few months ago? Is he back on track now?
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:17 AM
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50. Ford said that at one of the debates with Carter
He said that Poland was not under Soviet domination.

As for pardoning Nixon, that was probably one of the prerequisites for being selected as Agnew's replacement.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:48 PM
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8. Hell, Teddy was the last good Republican
and the establishment hated him. That says something about the Republican Party.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:58 AM
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34. Teddy, who became President by accident
The party, afraid of what he was doing in New York, 'promoted' him to the VP slot to get him safely out of office...then McKinley was shot, and he was President; doing for the whole country what he planed for New York, bless him.

In 1908, following the tradition of no more than 2 terms, he retired and let his hand picked successor, Taft, run...once Taft was safely in office, he promptly acted like the friend of the robber barons that he was, dumping every principle Teddy put in place...

And Teddy ran again in 1912, first in the primaries (he lost to Taft because the party was damned if they'd let him in office again), then as a 3rd Party (Bull Moose), throwing the election to WWilson (a good thing, better him than Taft).

But you knew all this, and I shouldn't lecture.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:12 AM
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36. A little history
Ironic that a over century ago, the Republicans were the liberal party and the Democrats were the conservatives. Taft helped turn the corner for the GOP, and the Dixiecrats that bolted the Democrats helped cement it.

Meanwhile, FDR helped push the Dems toward the left, followed by Truman's progressive policies, and so on.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:53 PM
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9. This is our national tragedy, BFEE
I thought no one could ever be worse than Nixon, boy, was I ever wrong!
:puke::argh::nuke:
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:55 PM
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10. I voted for George W.
Hate to jump on the bandwagon, but he really is the worst.

I just can't imagine why anyone would vote for the Repukes with a list like that. The best they have to offer is probably TR, and even he wasn't that great. In a way to compare, here's a list of Democratic presidents since TR (ranging from pretty darn good to phenomenal):

Woodrow Wilson
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman (my personal fave)
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
James E. Carter
William Jefferson Clinton
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:18 PM
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11. The chimp even makes Raygun
Edited on Fri Aug-29-03 11:20 PM by LibDemAlways
look like a statesman. He's not only worthless as an unelected fraud of a "President," he's also completely and utterly worthless as a human being - a complete waste of DNA.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:23 PM
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15. He's so worthless
He's not even worth the space he occupies.

Get rid of him and fill that vacuum with a real human being. You know, someone who learned how to count.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:23 PM
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14. man, you see them lined up that way
what a bunch of losers.

every one but Eisenhower was positively bad for America.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:26 PM
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16. Eisenhower wasn't so great either. He did know
enough not to rock the boat. He ended the Korean War or at least stopped it as he promised and after that he did nothing, but that also meant that he didn't undo what Roosevelt and Truman had done before him.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:26 PM
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17. I actually thought this was a serious question!
I am a student of history and almost automatically voted for Harding! LOL!:D
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 01:46 AM
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20. Harding at least tried.
Can't really blame him for not being up to the job.

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:38 AM
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23. That's true, TreasonousBastard (you have made me laugh!)
Harding may have surrounded himself with corrupt individuals and the Teapot Dome scandal may have been about leasing oil reserves without competitive bidding, but, at least they did not launch an unprovoked attack on a third-world nation. I voted for Bush II.:-(
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:27 PM
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18. Harding
The guy makes Bush look smart - "I really don't think I have the ability to be president" he said.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:33 PM
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19. I think Harding was smarter than Bush.
At least Harding knew he wasn't up to the job. Bush is so dumb he doesn't realize his limitations.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:47 AM
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24. Compare and contrast:
"America's present need is not heroics, but healing; not nostrums but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration" (Warren Harding, Speech at Boston, Massachusetts, May 14, 1920

``The credibility of this country is based upon our strong desire to make the world more peaceful and the world is now more peaceful after our decision; the strong desire to make sure free nations are more secure -- our free nations are now more secure, and the strong desire to spread freedom. And the Iraqi people are now free and are learning the habits of freedom and the responsibilities that come with freedom.''
-- I got lost about half way through this, and I'm pretty sure Dubya did, too, Washington, D.C., Jun. 9, 2003

"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." —George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 02:40 AM
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21. Grant has these guys beat by a mile.
Grant's administration was corrupt beyond belief and he had no business running the country.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:24 AM
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22. Bush II is the most incompetent and dangerous administration
in this country's history and it isn't close. This guy makes Nixon look heroic and makes Reagan look thoughtful.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:49 AM
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25. * is so worthLESS that
he isn't even worth putting more than an "*" for the name. :puke: :puke: :puke:
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DEM FAN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:25 AM
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26. The SOB In The White House Now. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
:-(
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:41 AM
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27. Why I think it is Bush II
Taft at least accomplished a couple of things--The Dept of Labor and actually was a bit more of a trust buster than even TR.

Harding--presided over a 1922 naval disarmament conference.

Coolidge--spoke out in favor of civil rights in his 1924 State of the Union--though the very mildest form as indicative of the era he lived in.

Hoover--actually not the monster he has been made out to be. He did more to combat the depression in the form of public works and created the RFC than any previous president who always felt that during a downturn the govt. should not do anything that these things go in cylces.

Eisenhower--Ended the war in Kora and created the Interstate Highway system. Didn't dismantle the New Deal which many in the GOP wanted.

Nixon--Detente with China and Soviet Union. On domestic policy more liberal than many would think.

Ford--didn't accomplish a lot but he seemed like a nice guy who had a cool wife. He didn't rock the boat and he did seem to cool some of the passions of the watergate era--despite his pardon of RN--actually that pardon may have been the only way to do it.

Reagan--did form a strong alliance with Gorby.

Bush I--can't think of anything really positive about the father either except he finally had to weasel on his, "read my lips" pledge and increase taxes due to the high deficits.

Bush II--absolutely no positive accomplishments. He knows only two things how to start wars and lowering taxes on the rich. He is a disgrace to the office. Without doubt the worst president of the last 100 years in my opinion.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:28 AM
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28. Bush II is the worst
While I think that Harding, Reagan, and Coolidge come close, Bush II's destruction of the environment, education, Homeland Security, have all made him the worst president probably in our history.

I also agree about the Betty Ford thing. She's always been one of my favorite first ladies.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:56 AM
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38. Furthermore ...
Eisenhower -> Warren Court. (A lasting positive legacy.)

I agree that Hoover got a bit of a bad rap, but the Depression was the wake up call for everyone ... who've yet to stop hitting the snooze button. The Depression's primary cause, IMHO, was the massive shift of "investment" capital to derivatives rather than "hard" capitalization. We have huge systemic problems in the economy when the (theoretically) secondary markets are so structurally segregated from (and controlling of) the primary markets. Enron is a case in point. Enron didn't produce anything. The closest Enron got to hands-on energy was a very small part of their business: pipelines. Rather than actually focus on productivity and service, Enron manipulated the artificial and anomalous secondary (derivatives) market, primarily by focusing on gaming the system and bribing the rulemakers. No house was ever warmed nor operating room lit due to any effort of Enron. They're representative a vast parasitism on the economy: the parasitism of derivatives.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:33 AM
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29. Where's McKinley?
:shrug: I don't think it's even close. The current cra^Hop of Bushoilinis are, by far, the most corrupt cabal to inhabit/infest the Executive Branch. Better to ask who's second.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:37 AM
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31. McKinley was before TR
And the second worst would probably be a much closer poll. My own vote would probably go to Harding, but I'd be really tempted to vote for Coolidge.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 09:41 AM
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37. Well, Coolidge "studied" under Harding.
Consider the alternatives in 1924: John W. Davis (Democrat) and Robert M. La Follette (Progressive). :shrug:

Most folks don't know the post-WW1 history of recession and unemployment, largely caused by or exacerbated by a failure to properly shift from a war-based economy and establish the successful 'trickle-up' fiscal policies that made post-WW2 a comparable walk in the park. Those were the days when MacArthur led the military in attacking WW1 veterans encamped in DC. SOP militarist hypocrisy hasn't changed much.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:34 AM
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30. Does Bush II have even one redeeming quality?
Many times talk show hosts will ask a Bush critic if he can't say even one thing good about Bush. I suppose the point is to discredit the critic as biased. However, it would be very very difficult to find anything good to say about him.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 08:45 AM
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32. Toss-up between Hoover and Harding
Both were utterly worthless as President, and Harding was a bona fide crook.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:03 PM
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41. Don't agree on Hoover
I think history gives him a bad rap.

I do agree with a previous poster on Grant though. He should have known he did not have the abilities necessary to be president.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:33 AM
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51. Hoover appeared to do more for the USSR
than he did for Americans. He was willing to help out the fledgling USSR during its famine of 1922, but he was a fervent believer in markets and was loath to take the measures necessary to convince Americans that he was on their side (if, indeed, he was) during the depths of the Depression. He also sicced the army on the bonus marchers. That's why the shantytowns that sprang up were called Hoovervilles, and that's why he got his ass handed to him on a platter in '32, the second poorest showing of a major party presidential candidate in the 20th century.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 03:34 PM
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42. AWOL Georgie Boy.....
is absolutely the worst. He should
be called "short cut George".

Anything other than physical activity
is something that he takes short cuts
with.

In college he didn't bother with studying
why be bothered when a "C" will get you by.

In the military he cut out early,
why finish the comittment if you
can get away with going AWOL.

In businesses he sold out soon and often,
why stay with it if you can profit now
even if its a little illegal.

In politics he has no curiosity and
no wisdom, he relies totally on the
advise of others, why be bothered
if others will do it for you?

"Short Cut George" can't be bothered
with most things that require in debth
comittment which is why he is ignorant,
shallow, and secretly frightened that
others will catch on to his lack of
confidence. Sometimes you see it when
he is thrown an unexpected question and
he has the blank frozen look of a rabbit
caught in headlights. Shear terror!

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 06:02 PM
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43. I agree with you on every point
I am still astounded to think that this man is actually ``leader of the free world.'' As you say, I cringe when I hear him speak. He stumbles over even prepared text. When forced to speak off the cuff, it is truly painful to watch and I almost feel sorry for him sometimes.:shrug:

Also, the others, no matter how poor their records, have something in common that excludes Bush II. They were actually elected by the American people!:o
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:04 PM
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44. I voted for Zippy the Pinhead - AKA shrub.
The guy just has no clue. He was in over his head shortly after birth. Everything he's touched has turned to shit. And he can't even hold his frickin' dog.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 07:29 PM
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45. Gee, this whole conversation is making me feel a lot better about myself.
n/t

Even though I ended up on disability with nothing to show for my life, I'm better than Bush. :)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:35 AM
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49. If you REALLY want to feel better, check out Bush*s resume
Whatever you do or don't do in your life, you can never match this!:evilfrown:

George W. Bush* resume:
http://australianpolitics.com.au/news/2003/08/03-08-10.shtml
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:13 AM
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47. Hoover, NO CONTEST!
As much as I hate Bush, Hoover's neglect of the economy almost single handily brought our nation to its knees. Just think if FDR was never elected, we may not even be here right now. Hoover pushed this country to the brink of disaster. Bush, though bad, hasn't done it yet.


But if he wins re-election he may very well do it.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:25 AM
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48. I agree
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 03:33 AM by Rhiannon12866
The thought of another four years of Bush* makes my blood run cold.
:scared:

on edit: BTW, Hoover redeemed himself when, under Truman, he was named Chairman of the Famine Emergency Commission after World War II. He saw to the relief needs of many nations and more than acquitted himself. He was considered an elder statesman and became a prolific writer. I cannot see Bush* in either capacity, can you?.:grr:
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