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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 10:54 AM
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CBC- Cheney on "The Fifth Estate," 10/6, 9:00pm Pacific Time
Caught a promo for this show. Wednesday, 10/6, CBC's "The Fifth Estate," I think it will be sort of a biography on Dick Cheney.

9:00pm Pacific Time

Doesn't sound like they're going to be too complimentary, either.

CBC- Canadian network.

Unlike in the U.S., there are still some journalists in Canada.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:00 AM
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1. oooh, goody! I'll be watching.
Did you catch the episode on 9/11 "consipracy theories"? Basically much of the same info as F9/11 done about a year before. If more Americans had been able to see it, people wouldn't have been as surprised by F9/11.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:47 AM
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2. here's the link to the Conspiracy Theory...
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/index.html

Very well done.
can't wait for the Cheney one
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:02 PM
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3. Kicking back up 'cause it'll be a good, post-debate piece
CBC - Canadian televison (Still has some backbone)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:37 PM
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4. CBC Fifth Estate is Top-Notch. Here's some stuff on SNEER.
... outstanding Rolling Stone profile that spells out how Cheney got his Sneer.
The prick is as big a screw-up as his sock-puppet, Smirk:


The Curse of Dick Cheney

The veep's career has been marred by one disaster after another


By T.D. ALLMAN

Should George W. Bush win this election, it will give him the distinction of being the first occupant of the White House to have survived naming Dick Cheney to a post in his administration. The Cheney jinx first manifested itself at the presidential level back in 1969, when Richard Nixon appointed him to his first job in the executive branch. It surfaced again in 1975, when Gerald Ford made Cheney his chief of staff and then -- with Cheney's help -- lost the 1976 election. George H.W. Bush, having named Cheney secretary of defense, was defeated for re-election in 1992. The ever-canny Ronald Reagan was the only Republican president since Eisenhower who managed to serve two full terms. He is also the only one not to have appointed Dick Cheney to office.

This pattern of misplaced confidence in Cheney, followed by disastrous results, runs throughout his life -- from his days as a dropout at Yale to the geopolitical chaos he has helped create in Baghdad. Once you get to know his history, the cycle becomes clear: First, Cheney impresses someone rich or powerful, who causes unearned wealth and power to be conferred on him. Then, when things go wrong, he blames others and moves on to a new situation even more advantageous to himself.

"Cheney's manner and authority of voice far outstrip his true abilities," says Chas Freeman, who served under Bush's father as ambassador to Saudi Arabia. "It was clear from the start that Bush required adult supervision -- but it turns out Cheney has even worse instincts. He does not understand that when you act recklessly, your mistakes will come back and bite you on the ass."

Cheney's record of mistakes begins in 1959, when Tom Stroock, a Republican politician-businessman in Casper, Wyoming, got Cheney, then a senior at Natrona County High School, a scholarship to Yale. "Dick was the all-American boy, in the top ten percent of his class," Stroock says. "He seemed a natural." But instead of triumphing, Cheney failed. "He spent his time partying with guys who loved football but weren't varsity quality," recalls Stephen Billings, an Episcopalian minister who roomed with him during Cheney's freshman (and only full) year at Yale. "His idea was, you didn't need to master the material," says his other roommate, Jacob Plotkin. "He passed one psych course without attending class or studying, and he was proud of that. But there are some things you can't bluff, and Dick reached a point where you couldn't recover."

CONTINUED...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6450422?rnd=1094661464223&has-player=false&
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:12 AM
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5. Kick! N/M
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:29 PM
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6. On at 9pm, pacific time
Watch if you can!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:48 PM
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7. A kick to the pants of the BFEE!
:kick:
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:23 PM
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8. Took time I don't have to read this Rollingstone Article
It's awesome!

Let's see what the Fifth Estate does tonight.

Kick!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:05 AM
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12. The show KICKED ASS!
It started out from Cheney Ground Zero. The guy was raised in a Wyoming oil town. Guess whose red trucks he admired?

Halliburton.

The rest got better and better. While the show didn't mention PNAC by name, they did a nice job of making clear the mindset of those interested in controlling the world's resources, wealth and people.

A 10 out of 10.

PS: Sorry I'm not more detailed. I had to rabbit till near midnight. I saw it on tape with the feedbag on. I'll re-view with the Mrs. this weekend with the beer tubes hooked on.

PSS: Yet another link for the weary:



http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/dickcheney/
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:34 PM
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9. so what Estate number has Wolfie and paula Con been? like a minus 12???
don't mean to crow, being all canuckistanian and all it's just not in me blood.
but if you want real journalism by the yardstick of today, CBC still has some stones left.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:20 AM
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10. Quicktime & mp3 online here
Not really anything new to those who've been paying attention, but they put it together quite nicely, imho.

111 M quicktime video

10 M mp3 for the bandwidth challenged.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 09:54 AM
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11. Right, not new but in this format for the first time
This show ought to go out together with Moore's F 911.

What our media won't get into.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:12 PM
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14. Thanks, Wonk
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:48 AM
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17. thanks!
Nobody here really needs to see it, I'm sure, but it would sure be nice if some here passed the link on to where it's needed, i.e. to anybody with a mind not so completely sealed that s/he wouldn't even point and click. Unfortunately, a lot of those people won't have the technology or savvy to do that, or know about how to access the info.

For those who missed it and who get CBC Newsworld (not NWI in the US, unfortunately), it is airing again:

this Sunday at 8 pm
this Tuesday at 10 pm

When Edwards did his Cheney's-daughter thing in the debate, I didn't quite catch the import. I thought everybody knew the facts. The co-vivant opined that maybe Foxnews had never got around to mentioning it. I gather he was maybe right.

Ditto with the Cheney thing. How can anybody not know this stuff ...

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:07 PM
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18. replays on Sunday and Tuesday --- thanks
suitable for VCR taping
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:17 AM
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13. Thom Hartmann discussing this CBC masterpiece now (12:16pm EDT)
Says the Repugs would riot if this were to be shown on American TV.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:36 PM
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15. I saw it, it was really good
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 03:34 PM
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16. Great job by Fifth Estate,
Accurately spells out Cheney's US political involvement and Halliburton ties. This guy has been whispering in the 'capitalfirst' Repub ears since Nixon. Has made a sweet financial nest for himself to the detriment of US society and security. He exemplifies the Grand Poobahs of Greed. If every voter had access to this CBC presentation, Cheney would be out the window. Try to watch CBC news if it is accessable. More 'fair and balanced' than any of the US national news outlets.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:20 PM
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19. kick
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