Let's all watch different after-debate analyses, I'm doing ABC

[TrogL]

They're spending most of their time so far criticizing Dubya.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

1. The guy who's on right now thinks * did okay.

And his name (I swear I'm not making this up) is Terry Moran.

[TrogL]

2. He basically said Dubya did good because he got one talking point in

the "flip-flop"

[rppper]

4. but moran also said dubya failed......

...to effectively hang that albatross around Kerry's neck. kerry did great...calm, cool and colective. the shrub was visibly shaken.

[TrogL]

3. The lady said Dubya team was confident going in

and might not be so confident now.

Incidentally, the Freepers are totally freaking. From early in a 2000 post thread...

"The president already looks ticked. And he's got that blinkey thing going on which isn't a good thing. He's biting his lip."

[Eye and Monkey]

5. I'm listening to local call-in radio (WWL in New Orleans) - calls so far -

"Who won" depends on who you were pulling for before the debates. Bushians think "the pResident was AWEsome! Kerry LIED!". Kerry supporters think Kerry was strong, Bush was confused.

[Eye and Monkey]

15. Caller - "We awl KNOW dat Bush ain't da mos' awtick-u-let presden."

Ya gotta love New Orleans.

[TrogL]

6. Kerry effective on Iraq

Separating Iraq and Al Qaida.

Some guy points out that there was little discussion of how Iraq is today. What Dubya says does not match what most analyses (list) say is the actual reality.

[randome]

7. Little Timmie on NBC...

...said "both candidates were polished." I think he was asleep the entire time.

[TrogL]

8. Here's a poll

Who won

Kerry 45
Bush 36

[TrogL]

9. Fact Check

Dubya said 100,000 Iraqi police trained.

Actual number 50,000 or less and there's considerable question about exactly how "trained" they are.

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

10. I call C-Span!!!!

[LiberalManiacfromOC]

11. I call C-Span!!!!..... again

:P

[TrogL]

14. OK, go start a CSPAN thread

This is the ABC thread.

[TrogL]

12. Dubya seemed angry

They're starting in about the body language.

Kerry's campaign are "gleeful".

[Calico Jack Rackham]

13. Reagan and Scarborough agree.

Hands down, Kerry cleaned house.

[TrogL]

16. They learned a lot more about Kerry

They're getting self-referential.

George (who?) is talking.

They said CBS has a poll with Kerry ahead.

They're pointing out that the commentaries help frame the debate and so far they're saying Kerry either made a good impression or won.

[TrogL]

17. ABC said they won't have the spinmeisters on

Briefly quoted people from the two campaigns saying, of course, that they're candidate won and the other candidate was an idiot.

CBS

Kerry 46
Dubya 23
Undecided 30