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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:09 PM
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Will you feel bad for Bush voters who lose loved ones in Iraq?
I personally don't want to hear them crying. You reap what you sow, and sheep give birth to the occasional sacrificial lamb.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:10 PM
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1. Yes, death sucks
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 05:10 PM by Uzybone
even for Bush voters and thier relatives.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:10 PM
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2. yes, I will
they'll probably still be in denial about everything - but I still feel bad for them
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:11 PM
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3. I feel sorry for anyone who loses someone there eom
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:12 PM
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4. absolutely yes.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:12 PM
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5. Yes, as a mother
I feel awful for anyone who loses a child. Most Bush voters are just brainwashed victims of the media, anyway.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:13 PM
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6. If you have no empathy
for someone who loses a loved one in Iraq you're rather lacking in compassion. Just because someone believes the war is justified and the sacrifice worthwhile doesn't mean their grief isn't as great as someone who does not believe the war justified nor the sacrifice worthwhile.

You're displaying an amazingly vicious callousness with your comment.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:18 PM
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11. People who want to send other people's kids to die for George W.
Bush are not entitled to sympathy when they reap the consequences of their acts.

Those people wanted this war. They are the ones who want to let Bush continue to throw kids into the meat grinder despite a proven record of incompetence and dishonesty.

I just hope that they are the ones to pay the price.

If they don't want their kids to die, they shouldn't be so goddamn bloodthirsty when it comes to other people's kids.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:23 PM
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17. You are assuming
that everyone whose kid went to Iraq was also eager to send others' children there. You're wrong. Many people I've spoken with who have a kid in Iraq have told me the kid enlisted against the parent's wishes.

How incredibly offensive of you to make this assumption.

If you want to rant against those whose kids stay home safe and sound while pounding the war drums, that's one thing. But if you think that all the parents of all the soldiers over there are themselves blood-thirstily wanting to throw young people into the meat grinder, as you put it, then you're not really paying attention.

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:27 PM
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19. S/he did say BUSH voters
Not simply the parent of any soldier.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:28 PM
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20. I never said that all parents of kids over there are Rethugs.
What I said was that I don't have a great deal of sympathy for people who worship Bush and then lose their kids.

I have two cousins over there, and on a moral level I will hold every (2004) Bush voter morally complicit and culpable if anything should happen to them there.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:14 PM
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7. No absolutely not.
Sorry to "appear" hardened on this point, but they HAD a choice and chose to sacrifice their family on the alter of ideology.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:15 PM
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8. Yes, of course
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:17 PM
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9. Of course i would feel bad for them
but i don't know any * supporters that have kids in Iraq. I know some Kerry supporters that have kids in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:17 PM
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10. As a liberal, yes.
There is no way I could believe in what I believe and not have pity for those who lose the ones they love. I am not hateful of anyone. In fact, I am sorry that they have been duped so badly, and wish there was something I could do to help them.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:19 PM
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12. "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind;
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." -- John Donne
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:20 PM
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13. I agree that the deaths themselves are tragic.
But, every kid that dies over in Iraq dies because the Republicans wanted him over there.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:20 PM
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14. Open your heart. Humanity and tragedy go beyond politics. nt
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:25 PM
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18. These people love George W. Bush more than they love their own children.
He lied to them about Iraq, created a giant mess, and continues to lie to them about Iraq.

But they want George W. Bush to decide their child's fate.

It's like a parent leaving their child alone with a known child molestor.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:20 PM
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15. You'd have to be pretty cold not to feel bad
After all, most such people don't vote for Bush because they love death and destruction, but because they feel his policies will eventually produce positive results. They have been fooled into believing our troops are dying in order to make us safer.

I feel bad for them in several ways.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:22 PM
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16. of course I will
what a stupid question.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:34 PM
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21. I would feel awful for them
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 05:36 PM by lastliberalintexas
And very sad for the loss of their child and the loss to our society. Would she have been the one to find a cure for cancer? Would he have created the next artistic masterpiece? We'd never know.


But I can't say that I would have much *patience* for them. As I said in another thread, people need to start learning that there are real consequences of voting for certain candidates- whether that consequence is the loss of a loved one in an illegal war or the loss of federal monies for disaster relief. They need to be truly informed, aware, and active *citizens*, rather than mere residents of the country. They need to understand that there are certain duties and responsibilities inherent in living in a democracy or representative government of any kind. They need to learn that it's not enough to paste a fake yellow ribbon on their bumper.


edited for grammar!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:40 PM
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23. Very well said.
Perhaps this is my frustration speaking, but a lot of Rethugs have the "it's other people's kids/it's only brown people who will die anyway" attitude towards US military action.

I mourn the loss of each soldier--they have been betrayed by their Commander in Chief.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:50 PM
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27. Thankyou
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:37 PM
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22. What a fucking pathetic comment
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:42 PM
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24. The question is irrelevant
Bush voters are incapable of love, therefore, it is impossible for them to "lose loved ones".
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:46 PM
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25. I feel bad for anyone who has lost a loved one!
Question is, does bush* give a rat's a$$ about anyone who has died because of his oily war? Those who supported this illegal war will have to justify their believes and reconcile their guilt in whatever way they can.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:49 PM
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26. I know two people who have soon to be 19 year olds....
One is a full blown Repuke down the street and another is a Dem I used to work with. Both kids could be fodder for Halliburton profit. Doesn't matter to me which way their parents vote,I don't want to see or hear about either kid coming home in a damn box.

David
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:03 PM
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28. Although often caused by ideology, tragedy is beyond any ideology...
Loss is loss and pain is pain. I would do anything I could to comfort or to help a * supporter who lost a son or daughter in Iraq.
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teach4life Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:21 PM
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29. spiritual war
I would cry for anyone that looses a loved one. But I did hear on NPR today a family that supports Bush who lost a son in Iraq. They said they all knew what they were getting into. They also said that this war is a "spiritual war" and that anyone who understood the Bible would know that. What the hell are they talking about???
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:26 PM
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30. Yes, I think it's terrible for anyone to die for these lies.
Even those who believe them.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 06:45 PM
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31. locking
flamebait topic..

I doubt that ANYONE at DU wants ANYONE'S son, daughter, husband, sister, brother, wife to die.. Some things transcend politics..Wishing death upon another, is not acceptable.
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