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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:13 AM
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Like the Nazis, bushkkko uses CULTism, & OCCULTism
............CULT............
NOUN: 1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. b. The followers of such a religion or sect. 2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual. 3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual. 4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease. 5a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. b. The object of such devotion. 6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

........OCCULT............
ADJECTIVE: 1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena. 2. Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable. 3. Available only to the initiate; secret: occult lore. See synonyms at mysterious. 4. Hidden from view; concealed.

.........the nazis were heavily influenced by mysticism and occultism and religious zealotry. they actually sought the holy grail of christ, and swords purported to be sacred and mixed hinduism with aryan viking mythology to create a new cult. and they also were students of occultism, and astrology.

i think bushkkko is using many nazi tactics, right under everyone's noses. if you mention this fact to anyone, you get dismissed and ridiculed. but it's known that they practice cultism, and occultism for the same goal the nazis did. world domination, a master, ruling race/nation, under a human diety/god, that will accept huge lies and myths as fact, and obey any and all orders with no will of your own. the master's will is all that matters.

it sounds far fetched huh? but it did happen. and it ain't ancient history, it's VERY RECENT history. the men who fought against the nazis and beat them down still live among us. how we've let them down.

just rantin' and ramblin' here........
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:14 AM
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1. What elements of the occult do you see..
..in Bushco??
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:19 AM
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2. they've perverted religion, like they accuse the muslim radicals of
they've taken the dominant national religion, and adopted the radical wing of the zealots and crazies who think these are the end times.

trying not to offend any good christians, but bushkkko has hijacked christianity and coraled the true believer/radicals into a powerful and dangerous herd. the last chapter of the bible, revelations, is their blueprint. this is occultism on an extremely horrific scale.

they have the bombs, and they have the motivation, and they are just itching to nuke some heathens.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:23 AM
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3. some basic facts about the 'end timers'
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:26 AM
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4. more research; 'the nazis and the occult'
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:30 AM
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5. dittoheads - neocons
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 06:30 AM by ixion
are essentially a cult. Blind faith and a strong repression of the fact, in lieu of support for the institution, rallied around a 'charismatic' (and in *'s case I use that term oh so loosely), homogenous, and organized.

Yep, they're a cult alirght. ;-)
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:18 PM
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6. paul revere kick
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:27 AM
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7. Chimp's favorite philosopher, Jesus Christ!
this is the bullshit Brit Hume brought out in the 2000 debates and again yesterday on a CSPAN campaign special. He said this was a significant "insight" into the candidate. What ideologue Hume didn't pick up on or pretended not to was the editorial selection in the clips depicting his editorial selection in the questioning of the candidates, lengthy argumentative indictment questions for Sen. Mondale, the ultimate softball pitches for Quail and Bush.

Hernando Cortes and Sandoval used to quote Jesus while slaughtering Aztecs for conquest of Mexico. They used to get the other tribes assisting in the slaughter to sign legal documents, acknowledging the Christian god and the throne of Spain. When they ran afoul of his will, he slaughtered them as the need arose.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:07 AM
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8. take your rightwing doomsday cults fer'instance
The cult is authoritarian in its power structure. The leader is regarded as the supreme authority. There is no appeal outside of his or her system to greater systems of justice.
(One-party rule.)

The cult's leaders tend to be charismatic, determined, and domineering.
(If I could stand to look at or listen to Bush maybe I'd see his alleged charisma.....naw.)

The cult's leaders are self-appointed, messianic persons who claim to have a special mission in life.
(It's been blatantly claimed God chose Bush.)

The cult's leaders center the veneration of members upon themselves.
(They mostly perform for groups of hand-picked groups of followers -- criticism of them is a threat to the national interest.)

The cult tends to be totalitarian in its control of the behavior of its members.
(Once we get this theocracy off the ground we won't have to put up with homos/abortionists/feminists and other abominations. )

The cult tends to have a double set of ethics. Members are encouraged to deceive and manipulate outsiders or nonmembers.
(Lying is just another tool for consolidating power.)


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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:27 PM
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9. Like this fount of anti-Islamic hatred?
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 09:38 PM by teryang
http://www.johnhagee.net/currentevents.asp

http://www.johnhagee.net/mag-pdfs/israelmag.pdf

<PASTOR HAGEE: Yes. Well you understand that the Jewish
State was something that’s born in the mind of God. And
we are a people who believe the Scripture, and the
Scripture says very clearly that God created Israel in the Book
of Genesis, as I have said. In the book of the Psalms, it says
that He that keepeth Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps,
Meaning that God is the protector and the defender of
Israel. The Prophet Zechariah says the Jewish people are the
“apple of God’s eye”. If God created Israel; if God defends
Israel; if God considers Israel the apple of His eye, is it not
logical to say that those who fight with Israel are fighting
with God?
...
PASTOR HAGEE: Well, the theology that you’re talking
about is the fulfillment of Scripture and the coming of
Jesus Christ as Messiah to the earth...Yes, the
second coming, the great tribulation, and then the
Messianic age of 1,000 years of peace....We are
seeing, in my judgment, the birth pains that will be called
in the future “the beginning of the end.” I believe in my
mind that the Third World War has begun. I believe that it
began on 9/11. I believe that we are going to see an escalation
of the Islamic influence all over the earth use their
financial power and terrorism to bring nation after nation to
its knees. And finally, they are going to come after Israel in
waves of human attackers with the purpose of destroying the
Jewish State. And at that point in time, this battle is described
in Ezekiel 38, 39. God, in His sovereign grace, is going to
stand up and defend Israel, and the enemies of Israel are
going to be decimated.
BBC REPORTER 1: You know, some people listening
to your beliefs will be concerned that such as the black
and white, good against evil; the global confrontation that
you’re talking about, it’s inflammatory. It’s dangerous.
PASTOR HAGEE: No, it’s not dangerous. When you
know the future, there’s no reason to consider it inflammatory.
It’s going to happen. These things that I’m speaking
of have been clearly predicted in Scripture as clearly as the
sun shines at noonday. And when you study the Scripture
in a scholarly fashion and understand that both Old and
New Testament link together in a mesh work of prophetic
logic that very clearly portrays the future, then there is no
reason for concern. There’s absolute reason for confidence
in knowing that, yes, the world is getting ready to go
through the birth pains of sorrow, what the Bible calls it.
But on the other side of the birth pains will be the
Messianic era of Jesus Christ and a thousand years of peace
in the millennial reign.
BBC REPORTER 1: How closely do you work with and
how important to you are ties with Israel, with the Israeli
Government, with the Israeli public?
PASTOR HAGEE: Well, I’ve been to Israel 20 times. I generally
take a group of between five and six hundred people
with me when I go. They are our radio/television partners
from around the world... <snip>
BBC REPORTER 1: Well, I mean, I don’t disbelieve the
point, but I’m just trying to clear this up. Obviously, the
Jews believe that the Bible gives them rights to Hebron.
Hebron is what the Palestinians call it, and to
Nablus Schem and all these places. I mean do you have a
position on that? What is your view of those territories, which
we know as the occupied territory, which right-winged Jews
call part of Greater Israel?
PASTOR HAGEE: Well the Jews are absolutely right. The
land has never belonged to Palestinians. It was called
Palestine by the Romans, but there has never been a land
called Palestine. There is no Palestinian language. Before
1948, these people lived in Egypt. They lived in Syria. They
lived in Iraq. Yasser Arafat lived in Egypt. They have come
and they were displaced by the war of 1948, but Israel is not
occupying someone else’s territory. Whenever Israel
receives the land that is given to them in Scripture, it would
be probably somewhere in the area of 100 times greater than
all geographical regions now recognized as Israel. So the
Jewish people say: This belongs to us. Scripturally,
they’re absolutely correct. It’s theirs...<snip>
<BBC REPORTER 1: Let me
ask you this; why do you think Israel Prime Ministers regard
you as such an important figure?
PASTOR HAGEE: Well, one, I have been very faithful to
support Israel for 20 years. Secondly, I am seen by a
potential viewing audience of over 90 million people in
America and Canada. I’m on four television networks and
125 full-power TV stations, in addition to 115 radio stations.
I’m also, by satellite, over much of Europe. So third
world nations see me. And after being on television twice
a day for 24 years, there is an enormous nucleus of
American and Canadian people who listen to us on a regular
basis. That’s why.<snip>

<Terrorism here is terrorism there so you're either with us or you're with them. So it makes it very clear, he (bush) has given us a very clear moral perspective of what we're trying to accomplish."
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:59 PM
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10. Cults, etc
Hitler read and studied "The Secret Doctrine" which was written by a lady that I can not spell her name but starts with a B (I believe). It is a highly esoteric book filled with information that some would designate "occult". Hitler perverted the information to try to use it for an evil purpose. The information itself is not meant to be used in a negative way, but is to be used to lift up man and bring a closer relationship between man and God. In this instance "God" is not a specific God of a specific religion, but a spiritual God and that which created and informs the Universe.

George Bush's father is a member of the "elite", which includes the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Masonry, Skull and Bones and other secret societies. GHB has worked for years to support the UN and other organizations that have an intent to create a peaceful world, devoid of wars, brought about by religious tolerance, respect for earth, and a more unified system of government (which becomes the much "hyped and feared" NWO).

As you may remember, GWB, said that his father (GHB) was not the right father to ask (about going to war in Iraq) and that he spoke to a higher father. The father he speaks of is a more traditional "God" as seen through the eyes of the Evangelical movement. This movement believes that salvation can ONLY be found through Jesus Christ and that all other religions are incorrect. This differentiates from modern Christianity which puts their faith in Jesus Christ but does not designate those of other religious faiths to an unending hell. The Evangelical movement tends to be very nationalistic and thus, very concerned about NWO. I think GWB through his unwillingness to participate in the Kyoto and other treaties, as well as his unwillingness to wait for the UN on Iraq, as well as his much touted "faith" and reliance upon Evangelical Christians for votes pits him against his father and the NWO. So he actually disdains (at least in public)occultism which is opposite of Hitler, he none-the-less is using Hitlerean/Fascist techniques such as extreme nationlism, authoritative and dictatorial control of any questioning statements of government as being unpatriotic, etc.

The bottom line for me, is while I may personally benefit from US dominance, and I may enjoy nationalistic ferver, we are a global world and we must somehow come to terms with that. Otherwise we will continue to have inequalities in standards of living (which as with outsourcing we have learned can cause us problems!), we will have wars, we will have problems over who "owns" what resources.

As a humanity are we loving enough for a shared global system? I don't know - but I do know Bush, Jr. does not seem to be going in that direction at all. He may want to rule globaly through Imperialism, but he doesn't want to share globally through mutual respect.

Thanks for the opportunity to share my thoughts with you.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:09 PM
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11. Cute graphic!
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 10:10 PM by UdoKier
...........CULT............
NOUN: 1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false


But what happense when EVERYONE is in the cult? Almost every religion on earth fits that description, IMO.

.......OCCULT............
ADJECTIVE: 1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.


Also applies to almost every human religion.


i think bushkkko is using many nazi tactics, right under everyone's noses. if you mention this fact to anyone, you get dismissed and ridiculed.

Not at DU. Everyone here has said that for years.

It sounds far fetched huh?

Nope.

When I taught English in Japan, I used to brag to my students how "independent-minded" Americans are - how we are all raised to use critical thinking, and to "question authority". When I returned to the states in 2000 after many years, I was shocked to find out how wrong I was. I had not kept up with the Monica story and had had no idea how consumed with it people were, or how celebrity crap had taken over the news ever since OJ's chase. The news we got from the US in Japan was SO DIFFERENT. Anyway, whe I finally have to move back to Japan to escape the fascist nightmare the US is turning into, I will NEVER piously brag about how insightful and independent-minded my countrymen, We are MUCH MORE like lemmings than the "conformist" Japanese could ever dream of.
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