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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:12 AM
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How would this election be shaping up if Gore had won?
Just a fun topic another thread made me think of. Don't know if anyone will care, but here goes: I guess the basic questions are who would the repubs be running? How would Gore have responded to the 9/11 attacks? Would it have united the country or divided it as bush has done? Would our economy be better?

Here's what I think. McCain would be the repub nominee. I struggle to even think of another candidate. Gore invades Afghanistan and almost everyone can agree that is the right move. Hard to say on the economy. I know Gore would at least be trying. Final analysis says Gore over McCain by a descent margin due to his high popularity for handling the war on terror so brilliantly.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:17 AM
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1. Yeah it would be McCain, why do you think he is still praising Bush
he get to be president in 2008 if he is a good little boy and plays the way they want him too.

I wish I could bitchslap Nader back to 2000 and take my vote back, Gore is more of a hero to me now than Nader ever was.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:19 AM
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2. It probably would be another Bush
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 01:19 AM by lizzy
running against Gore. There are so many of them out there. Maybe Jeb.
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:19 AM
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3. Hello! Gore did win!
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 01:20 AM by foktarded
However, if what you mean is what if the election had not been stolen, and assuming 9/11 occurs (I think it probably would not have happened), the Republicans' main issue would be the 9/11 security failure. They'd say 3000 deaths were Gore's fault and we need to elect a Republican who knows how to protect us and who put up stronger antiterrorist laws and close the borders, assuming Gore hadn't attempted to close them.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:23 AM
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4. Oh yeah, damn I forgot, Gore did win! I think I might need a DU break
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:26 AM
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5. Gore wouldn't have been president in 2004
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 01:26 AM by tritsofme
Republicans in Congress would have impeached him in early 2002 for failing to prevent the 9-11 attacks.

President Lieberman would be facing John McCain.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:30 AM
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6. Silly wabbit.

Gore wins... no 9/11. If you believe in MIHOP/LIHOP then no 9/11
because the PNAC crowd are not in a position to take advantage of
the "Pearl Harbor" event. If you don't believe in *HOP, then the
CIA warnings and "chatter" and so on would have caused Gore to
let Richard Clarke and his minions do their job... dots connected
and so forth. High probability of this ending up like the LAX
New Years plot. Or the hijack 10 airliners from Asia plot.

There is still a recession, but not as severe... outsourcing is still
an issue, but investments are made in environmental and alternative
energy plans which increase the jobs created here... deficit is
still under control, no radical tax cuts are passed, debt has been
payed down a little, however there is growing pressure to use any
"surplus" to retrain workers laid off by outsourcing, and to
finally implement some sort of basic health care plan for all
Americans. Gore wins re-election by a comfortable margin against
either Bush or McCain.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:59 AM
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8. Good analysis, I knew someone could do it!
I'm not going to debate whether he would have stopped it. I think it's hard to say for sure. But you guys can feel free to : )
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:32 AM
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9. Yes, it's speculative

but remember, Tenet was there in Clinton, would have continued
under Gore, as would have Richard Clarke... and it's a good guess
that Gore would not have been as disconnected from things as shrubya.
Maybe not even on vacation for the entire month of August. Plus,
the whole "in the loop" v. "not in the loop" mentality that Cheney
brings to the White House would likely not be present in a Gore
Presidency. So first we have to believe that 9/11 was not LIHOP
or MIHOP (and I happen to think LIHOP for lots and lots of reasons),
and then you have to believe that a collection of 20 terrorists,
most of whom were not really being all that covert (there were a
number of missed signals about pilot training for jumbo jets with
guys that could barely fly Cessnas), plus traffic enough to have
Tenet running around with his "hair on fire" all summer. So, yeah,
I think if Gore had been allowed to take the oath of office, no
9/11. Would there have been a different attack? Oh yeah, quite
likely. Al Qaeda doesn't give up, and even if you believe in LIHOP,
Bin Laden would have funded another plot, maybe another car bomb
attempt.

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renoray Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:34 AM
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7. You assume 9/11 would have happened with Gore
Unlike Bush, Gore would have had a foreign policy. Gore would have listened to his intelligence. Gore would have read "Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States". Gore wouldn't have given the Taliban a boatload of cash.

But the repug media would have torn him apart. Gore didn't use the Clinton machine, and showed during the election that he doesn't stand up for himself until it is way too late. The Republicans would have likely had other "stars" developed in the void that would come with none of the CARBs. Colin Powel would have still had credibility and may have been able to convince the American people that Republicans could have handled conflict better than Gore. Moderate faces would still be visible in the republican party. A long series of repug debates would have introduced us to some senators, governors and other random slugs, and one of them would have caught on. Jeb would likely have been cursed with the national stigma of coming from a family of losers, so I don't think he would be in there. I think one way or another Gore would have been taken out.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:39 AM
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10. *if the votes would have been counted...
President Gore would by now have been impeached by the republican congress for starting an illegal war with false information.

Now President Leiberman, would have troops in Syria, Lebanon and Iran, and few other places that are full of "terorist arabs".

-a draft, and major civil disturbances across America.

The democratic party would have been torn apart in it's convention and the republicans would probably enjoy an overwhelming victory.

How's that?

--careful what you wish for...Hezbollah!
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