Is our country REALLY headed for eventual unrest/civil war/whatever?

[UdoKier]

Poll question: Is our country REALLY headed for eventual unrest/civil war/whatever?

I read all of these people talking about leaving the country "before the shit goes down". Most of my liberal (and more conservative friends seem to sense no such impending crackup. Personally, I know it's ALWAYS a possibility, but but do you think?


Personally, I might leave, if it becomes economically unfeasible to live here anymore (offshoring, etc. destroys the economy completely) but I just don't see this big revolution coming. Fascist dictatorship, maybe, but the sheeple seem to happy to accept ANY indignity, I kinda doubt they'll ever fight back.

[gumby]

1. Other: who cares? /

[UdoKier]

3. Wow.

I guess you don't have kids, or if you have them, you must not love them.

[gumby]

4. hahahahaha

[UdoKier]

2. kick.

nt

[booksenkatz]

5. But civil war and eventual unrest would require

a good number of people to put down their Ding Dongs and Cheetohs and turn off "American Idol" and tune in to what is happening around them. I don't envision it happening for years. You either have to take a direct hit personally (lose your job, lose your kid in Iraq), or be in possession of a social conscience that is bothered when you see it happening to others (liberal) in order to see the need to protest and fight. Not enough people have taken direct hits yet, I guess. Not enough people paying attention = not enough outrage.

[Aidoneus]

6. It will happen, probably within 3-4yrs no matter what happens in Nov.'04

but I'm not pissing myself over it, not breaking out into ridiculous hysterics, ... nor even preparing for it, as I probably should--but when/if/whatever it comes, then is a time to react as is seen fit.

The economic situations will strangle the ability for effective resistance in early stages--now, for instance. Safety valves and distractions are in no short supply, despite living standards of basic decency being in wide absence. A collapse of this frail and inherently injust. but well planned, order, would render all of that moot. That would then be some shit going down, and very bad if you're on the wrong side of it. But, that is not tomorrow or next week, so I will go out for Thai food tonight instead of an order of Paxil with RPG-7s on the side (the latter may come in handy in a few years however, so do leave it somewhere in the back of the mind anyway--but I recommend Thai cooking at this time in its place).

It may be difficult to notice just where my sense of humour kicks in and where I am more or less serious..

[sffreeways]

7. sigh~~

I guess I believe that it's already happening. Kerry getting elected isn't going to change it. It may prolong the agony of it but it won't change it. It's got to happen now. We've gone too far. The people supporting Bush are too twisted. The country is sick. We only need to wait for the events that will happen that push it into full scale brutality. Sad.

[kayell]

8. America has morphed into sheep. My evidence:

This ignored story:

FBI's Anti-Terror 'October Plan'
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/17/eveningnews/main644096.shtml
(CBS) Convinced that al Qaeda is still determined to disrupt the U.S. fall elections by an attack on the homeland, FBI officials here are preparing a massive counter-offensive of interrogations, surveillance and possible detentions they hope will disrupt the terrorist plans, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

FBI field offices and Homeland Security agencies will be advised of "extraordinary measures" that will go into place "beginning the first week of October through the elections."

An internal e-mail advisory to supervisory agents this week from the FBI's "'04 Threat Task Force" said the purpose of the counter-offensive is "to foster the impression that law enforcement is focused on individuals who may be a threat."

Specifically, the plan calls for "aggressive - even obvious - surveillance" techniques to be used on a short list of people suspected of being terrorist sympathizers, but who have not committed a crime. Other "persons of interest," including their family members, may also be brought in for questioning, one source said.

More - especially the last paragraph.
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This was Fridays news dump, and steadily ignored by all media ever since.

[bemildred]

9. It isn't going to be pretty when the cheap oil is gone.

Whether it rises to the level of civil war remains to be seen.
In any case, it will be a war in which cheap oil is not part
of the equation, more like "Road Warrior", if it happens. Masses
of soldiers on foot fighting back and forth over the rubble.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Unrest, yes. Civil war, no.

I would expect something more akin to the urban uprisings of the '60s in the ghettos than any kind of civil war. And/or student protests and violence when the draft makes it's inevitable comeback.

[Romulus]

11. voted "sheep"

Because that's a fact . . .

Especially if Bush is tied with Kerry in a place like MARYLAND?:shrug:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/states/maryland.html

[hiphopnation]

12. It's hard not to be worried. n/t

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

13. My best hope

Is a more or less peaceful dissolution a la the Soviet Empire. Then at least I can concentrate on California's problems and let our domestic Chechnyas (red states) fester somewhere far beyond the mountains.

[genius]

14. Most of the people I've spoken with are talking about leaving if Kerry

loses. I'm not just talking about a few people. Thousands of those I've spoken to at protests and Dem Party events are already looking into the possiblity of re-locating in another country. If I know that many, I bet it's just the tip of the iceberg.