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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:11 PM
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Lighten up on Bush Supporters!!!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 08:12 PM by cidliz2004
At this stage it wouldn't be wise to come down too hard on the Bush supporters in that if they go to the booth on November 2 and vote for Bush out of SPITE or out of ANGER against what we the Kerry supporters might say to them, then we have lost.

Back off, give Bush supporters enough room to quietly back down from thier support of Bush. Allow them to not be angry (because of what we as individuals might say to them), allow them to maybe just maybe back away from Bush gracefully and quietly and don't PUSH them to vote for Bush out of anger or spite.

Maybe just maybe we will get more support when the debates commence.



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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:16 PM
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1. No way
f**k them all.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:24 PM
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2. Yes, fuck them, fuck them right in the ear.
They need to understand what bad people they are supporting. Fuck em if they don't like it.
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unslinkychild1 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:03 AM
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13. AMEN
I'm with Malloy--fucking SCUM, even the grammas--Babs anyone? Barf-- they should ALL die HORRIBLE deaths.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:27 PM
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3. Lighten up???
ARE YOU CRAZY? Hell no... No way I am gonna lighten up! I will spread my dissent as LOUD as I can....
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:32 PM
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4. Ignorant fools will not listen to logic. They close their eyes.
Stupid fools.
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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:42 PM
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5. No. They are traitors in their own right, as far as I'm concerned.
Besides, if we give them slack, they may start thinking that voting GOP is OK...and it damn sure is not Ok, not this time.

No, you are wrong.

We owe it to the idiots voting for Bush to point out, BEFORE the election, what the results of their stupidity is gonna be...that way, we get to laugh at the fools when the following predictions come true.

Their kids are going to be drafted, their variable rate mortgages are going to skyrocket, inflation and the price of gasoline will continue their climb. What else?

Oh yeah, their jobs are going to be outsourced, their 401K funds ripped off by further market crashes from further terrorist attacks, and they will die in abject poverty, because Bush is going to trash Social Security.

We really owe it to these Bush-voters to lay out for them exactly what the consequences of their actions are going to be.

I mean, obviously they cannot be very bright, or they would have figured it out for themselves!


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lindy45 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:47 PM
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6. they will vote him regardless
of what is said. unfortunately, while ignorance may be bliss, it is also exremely dangerous.

just look at the mess we are in because of ignorance.

daddy's boy doesn't care 1 iota for this country...he is in it for his own gain and his friends gain.

alot of people are fed up and angry with the repugs too.

:kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:47 PM
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7. No way
their ignorance is ruining my country. Its the only country I have. The hell with the jackasses that blindly follow this administration and the OBVIOUS propaganda. Their hatred will be met.
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lindy45 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:53 PM
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8. right on!
:headbang:
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:57 PM
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9. Is this a new strategy? And where are they serving the Koolaid?
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:00 PM
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10. O.K. Pound them over the heads, insult them and by all means
make sure that you don't give any of the Bush supporters a CHANCE to SEE THE LIGHT!

Be like the Republicans and just spew hatred and cut your noses off to spite your face.

We are in the fight of our lifetime, so let us not be smart and use strategy to win, lets just use clubs and bash their brains out!


The tide may have begun to turn, what with some of the SENATORS actually speaking out against 43', but make sure that you all slam the door in anybody else's face - Heaven forbid we nurse that tide to continue and to bear us fruit!
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:18 AM
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11. A Bush supporter is different from a republican..they won't switch
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:21 AM by vetwife
like the old cigarette commercial..They had rather fight than switch
I am a moderate dem not a left left dem. I sit among the true believers and a true Bush supporter could see Bush eat a small puppy on TV and still swear to his loyalty oath.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:44 AM
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27. This is the truth
>a true Bush supporter could see Bush eat a small puppy on TV and still swear to his loyalty oath.<

Our neighbor, who couldn't tell me enough that she wasn't interested in voting for * four months ago, now has a "*/Cheney" sign prominently staked in her front yard.

There's no reasoning with them and there's no changing their minds. All we have left is to register voters in the next week and a half before the cutoff, and to volunteer to phone bank, doorbell, and do whatever you can in your community to GOTV.

We fight on. If we don't, we deserve what we get.

Julie
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:54 AM
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34. They have had years of chance to see the light. They WILL not.
They only understand clubs apparently.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:36 AM
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12. AHHHHHHHHHH ! Spite ? What ??!!
That's the only reason they are republicans in the first place.

It's not because of fiscal conservatism.
It's not because Bush is trying to shrink the government.
It's not because we found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and he saved us from Saddam.
It's not because they got a tax break, they went to the rich.
It's not because he's brilliant.
It's not because he got Bin Laden.
It's not because he's tough on crime, it's going up and he's cut the funding.
It's not because of no child left behind he cut that funding too.
It's not because he's doing anything about Social Security.
It's not because of medicare it went up
It's not because he is giving them all health insurance options
It's not because he's done anything for the environment but foul it
It's not because he isn't deficit spending
It's not because he cut the welfare roles, they are growing
It's not because of jobs, there are none

Jesus H Christ cut them some slack are you kidding ???

The only reason these rotten shitbags are voting for him is he's promoting their hate here and abroad.

These conservatives of today have one thing in common and one thing on their minds and that is hate and especially hate for us. Why the hell would we give thema break on anything.

Not for nothing but we've been entirely too nice already !!!!!!!

My Gawd this is the most outrageous post I think I've ever read on DU.


:nuke:
:mad:

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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:22 AM
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14. With all due respect.....
What are you, NUTS? Or are you flame-baiting?

It's one of the two, because I know of no DUer worth their salt that would EVER lighten up on the Bushkevics.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:26 AM
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15. If not truly evil themselves...
...they're on the side of evil. Fuck 'em all, fascist scumbags!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:01 AM
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16. HUH???
You're kidding, right? Of course you are.
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thomas_a Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:12 AM
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17. I Agree. Lighten Up On Bush Supporters
We Democrats are the minority party right now. We are in the same position as the Republicans were in 1942. And, as bleak as things might seem right now we, like the Republicans, can stage a come back. The only way to do this is to show Republican voters that it is in their best interests to change how they vote. We need to follow the old Christian maxim of "hate the sin but love the sinner". Attack the Bush with all of your passion but embrace his voters.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:24 AM
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18. BULLSHIT!
Anyone who votes for the chimp is just as EVIL as he is! They stand for EVERYTHING bad that's happening in this country right now. I'll be damned if I will EVER embrace their hatred! LOOK at what the chimp has done to our country! WHY would any THINKING person vote for him? No. Fascism has this country by the throat. Embrace them, my ass. I can barely stand looking at them, I surely will not be embracing them. They are HATE/EVIL personified.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:27 AM
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19. ditto on that 'bullshit!'
lighten up? not me. pat robertson is evil, but he wouldn't be where he is without his devotees and contributors. if someone chooses to vote for bush, he is just as bad, if not worse than bush himself. bush wouldn't be where he is now without his supporters, and he wouldn't have murdered as many thousands of people as he has without the troops. charles manson didn't kill anyone, his supporters did the dirty deeds for him.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:32 AM
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23. Actually, he wouldn't be where he is now without the SCOTUS. n/t
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thomas_a Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:36 AM
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25. WHY would any THINKING person vote for him?
WHY would any THINKING person vote for him?

Because they are not thinking or were misinformed.

Yes, Bush is evil and voting for him furthers his evil but his voters can change their ways. However, they are not going to when we are shouting at them and insulting them. It is good to be passionate. Now we need to direct our passion toward a positive goal. We are never going to redeem 100% of the Bush voters but we do not need to. Changing the minds of 5% is all it would take to swing the election and send Doofus and company into retirement. My friends, please don't waste your energy being angry. Use it to go and make a convert.


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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:39 AM
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42. Not evil. Just incredibly stupid, brainwashed, and self-absorbed...
...in a similar way to the majority of Germans who supported Hitler before and during WWII. As long as the bad things aren't happening to them, they can bury their heads in the sand and ignore all the bad and wax lyrical instead about the way they personally benefit from the actions of a rotten regime. And when all the bad stuff hits the fan in a big way, they can throw their hands in the air and announce that they hold no personal responsibility. After all, they just supported the evil,corrupt regime because no-one had the guts to point out to them that they were complete twats for falling for all the bullshit. Embrace them? What next? Maybe, just maybe, we should all say really nice things about Bush just in case it offends a conservative? :shrug:

Violet...
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:30 AM
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22. I don't even want to breath the same air
we don't need any damn republicans to win anything. We need people that won't get their asses out to vote. Screw the corrupt pigs that think Bush is worthy of the American presidency. They should pay a high price for their selfish petty, bitter, hateful vote.

I'll be damned if I ever give any republican a break. They are traitors.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:33 AM
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24. Embrace his voters ...
... and you'll get a nice big knife shoved into your back.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:50 AM
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28. No, we are not
>We Democrats are the minority party right now.<

The country has been trending Democratic for several years now. The difference between us and them is the fact that THEY get their voters out on Election Day, by hook or by crook.

If we are the "minority party", how did Al Gore get half a million votes more than *?

If you want to win on Election Day, you'll do the following: Register your friends and neighbors to vote. Make sure they vote, even if you have to go and pick them up, especially if they're Democrats. Call your local Dem headquarters and volunteer a few hours of your time per week between now and Election Day. On Election Day, if you can afford to take the day off, DO IT. Drive voters to the polls. Phone bank those last few stragglers that can't seem to make it off the couch.

THEY want us to feel defeated and discouraged. It depresses turnout.

Get off your best intentions and get to work, folks.

Julie
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:28 AM
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33. Fuck religion...
too
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:55 AM
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35. We are the majority party. Where did you get THAT nonsense? CNN?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:02 AM
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38. WE ARE THE MAJORITY PARTY: THERE ARE MORE REGISTERED DEMS
and if you count the results from 2000, more people gave their votes to Gore and Nader-the Democratic Center and Left-than to Bush. Bush ran as a moderate in 2000. I wonder how many of his former independent voters will give him the shaft?

Go spout your BS elsewhere. Where's your profile, BTW?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:02 AM
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39. dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 08:04 AM by RationalRose
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:57 AM
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44. Aiding and abetting
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 09:00 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
Your use of "we" is fooling no one, and I'm sure you're aware that Democrats are the majority in this country. Those of you who support the criminal in the White House are aiding and abetting his crimes.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:28 AM
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20. Kiss my ass.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:30 AM
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21. Lay off Squeaky Fromme, the People's Temple, and Hitler Youth, too.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 06:31 AM by Flammable Materials
These people are cultists. They're not going to change their minds.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:44 AM
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26. We should kill them with kindness.
Love 'em to death.

Uh...no. They already think that we are weak. Look at all the weasel Dems in Congress that bow and scrape to the Neo Fascists.

This is WAR and I am fighting for America before it turns into Amerika.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:51 AM
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29. HAHAHAHA! You've got to be kidding?! Lighten up on murdering fascists?
No. Fucking. Way.

I have only just begun. This is a fight to the DEATH! Either we kick the living shit out of 'em every which way we can, or we can kiss America good bye.







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aebrain Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:53 AM
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31. I'd say you're out-voted
What is it, 3 for, 24 against?

The majority opinion seems to be with sffreeways :
The only reason these rotten shitbags are voting for him is he's promoting their hate here and abroad.

These conservatives of today have one thing in common and one thing on their minds and that is hate and especially hate for us. Why the hell would we give thema break on anything.

Not for nothing but we've been entirely too nice already !!!!!!!

My Gawd this is the most outrageous post I think I've ever read on DU.
I won't comment, to avoid giving offence.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:00 AM
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32. Yeah...let's lighten up and run down to the enlistment center...
We could treat Bush's bootlickers better and enlist for future Wars all in one!!

Bullshit pal.....

David
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:58 AM
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36. I agree -- leave them room to see the light. They don't need to -m
be humiliated in that. (I know, as much fun as that would be).

I suspect a good number of outward Bush supporters might just pull a different lever in the privacy of the poll. Give them room to do the right thing.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:59 AM
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37. If they are Bush supporters, then to hell with them
They are sycophantic idiots who would rather listen to Republican lies than the truth. Any time you tell them a fact, you have to back it up with six forms of documenation that they deem as "credible sources" (usually only Drudge, NewsMax, and Faux News).

Only 1% of the country benifits from the Bush presidency, and even those people are willing to overlook the fact that he is fucking the nation and the environment.

So why does about half the country support him?

Who knows. But they sure are arrogant about their support of a man who honestly wouldn't give a shit if ten thousand Americans were killed in a terrorist attack tomorrow (unless they were billionares, of course). So, I think they deserve the shit we give them.

Besides, how bad we may treat them won't possibly be as bad as Bush and his cronies will be treating them once they get their theocratic dictatorship in place.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:06 AM
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40. Sorry, I didn't get my daily dose of SOMA
You don't convert bullies by being nice to them.

If they support Bush, it's because he satisfies their antisocial tendencies. The RNC kicker is representative of their mindset. They lash out at perceived weakness and only respond to shows of strength.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:11 AM
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41. what the fuck are you smoking?
They are the ill-informed ones helping to take us down the path of fascism and you want to go easy on them?

This Boggles the fucking mind!
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:40 AM
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43. Put down the crack pipe
that's so 80's.
If they're supporting * they're supporting his policies. His policies seem to include selling off this country to the highest bidder, installing a theocracy, and destroying the Constitution.
Lighten up? I
I think not.
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