"...both served honorably and both were discharged honorably."

[Vickers]

See? Both did the exact same thing during the Vietnam War, didn'tcha know!?!?!?!?

That is Colin Powell talking out of his ass in this story

Of course in that same story, they quote how he really felt in his 1995 biography, you know, before he became Georgie's cabana boy:

"The policies determining who would be drafted and who would be deferred, who would serve and who would escape, who would die and who would live, were an anti-democratic disgrace,"

SNIP

"I am angry that so many sons of the powerful and well-placed managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units,"

:eyes:

How does it feel to be the world's most-recognized sellout, Colin?

[gratuitous]

1. What's such hot shit about an honorable discharge?

John Muhammed, the DC sniper, got an honorable discharge, too. And he killed only slightly fewer people than Stupidhead did.

[Vickers]

2. Agreed, but I'm not arguing the merits of the discharge level, rather

how Colin is trying to paint them with the same brush.

Pitiful!

[Career Prole]

3. I have an honorable discharge and I'm proud of that fact.

I'm also getting kind of vexed with people here saying "Big deal...the D.C sniper got one too".
Many nutcases have diplomas and college degrees as well. Pick on them for a while.

[Vickers]

4. I also have an honorable discharge!

I'm thinking that most of the folks who bring up the DC sniper's discharge level didn't serve.

Just an observation.

FTR, I have never gone on a shooting spree or blown up a federal building :eyes:

[gratuitous]

5. And perhaps well you should be proud

Unfortunately, in and of itself, one's discharge status is rather meaningless. I have one eye on either side of the bridge of my nose. It's a pretty safe bet that you do, too. That fact doesn't say a darned thing about either one of us.

Chimpy having an honorable discharge, just like Kerry, doesn't say squat about whether Chimpy actually reported for duty, or if his exit from the service was just pencil-whipped through because as the son of a wealthy, well-connected white guy it was more trouble than it was worth to hold him to even minimal standards.

[Career Prole]

6. "I have one eye on either side of the bridge of my nose.

"It's a pretty safe bet that you do, too.

Huh-uh...I'm Picasso's love-child. :eyes:

Maybe we should take better care of our tools of war. Retired racehorses get better breaks than retired soldiers.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/vpj.txt

[gratuitous]

8. Well, I send thousands of dollars to Washington DC every year

I have no idea what they spend it on. But we're spending over a billion dollars a day on defense. I'd prefer we spent it on the citizenry rather than defense contractors, but education, the environment and other elements of the common weal apparently aren't as sexy or alluring as stuff that blows up real good.

[DrWeird]

7. Could you clear up some confusion for me?

Is there some kind of "regular discharge"? I was under the impression that there were really two kinds of discharges, honorable and dishonorable. You get the dishonorable discharge for things like assaulting female cadets and torturing Iraqis. That is, you get the honorable discharge for not completely fucking up.

[PsN2Wind]

9. There are several levels of discharge

or at least were when I was in and I've not heard of a change.
Honorable Discharge
General Discharge
Undesirable Discharge
Bad Conduct Discharge
Dishonorable Discharge
They are pretty much self explanatory and for almost(emphasis here)
everyone are a reflection of the nature of their service.
We have added for the benefit of Dubya a new classification. That is
Honorary Discharge. That is a discharge that reflects who his daddy is rather than the nature of his service.

[Career Prole]

10. No, there's a selection of discharges, both punitive and administrative.

Punitive separations are the dishonorable discharge and the bad conduct discharge. Both of these require a court-martial.

Administrative discharges come in three sizes.
There's the honorable, the general (under honorable conditions), and the general (under other than honorable conditions).

Administrative discharges also come in two flavors: voluntary and involuntary. A discharge at the end of your service contract is a voluntary separation. Some people think that separating at the end of the normal term of service guarantees an honorable discharge, but it doesn't. All of the administrative discharges reflect your conduct and performance. Too many screw-ups or low performance report ratings may result in a general (under honorable conditions) discharge.

Bush should have gotten one of these, at best. (IMO):eyes: