Congressman Dreier to be outed Monday

[realFedUp]

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=289

Dreier, alleged to have lived with another man;
Hustler contacts Raw Story

By John Byrne | Raw Story Editor

Rep. David Dreier, a twelve-term Republican congressman from California, is now under the gun of gay activist Michael Rogers, whose site blogACTIVE outed and sparked the resignation of congressman Ed Schrock (R-VA) late last month. He is also the subject of an investigation by Hustler Magazine.

Rogers says he knows the Dreier was living with another man, who did not return his call.

“I was especially interested in talking with Brad Smith about his living arrangements with the Congressman here in DC,” Rogers wrote.

Rogers added Thursday that he plans to put forward more evidence of Dreier’s sexuality as early as Monday.

“More information will be forthcoming early next week,” Rogers said. “I have left repeated messages at Congressman Dreier’s office in an attempt to open dialogue regarding a plethora of information. I have received about the Congressman’s activities.”

Rogers said Dreier’s office did not return his calls, and repeatedly hung up on him.

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[freetobegay]

1. I am not for outing people

With the exception of hypocritical politicians.

[DemWitch]

2. What freetobegay said...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. yeah, but from what I understand, he would be a hypocrite.

Isn't he all for the gay marriage ban?

[freetobegay]

7. Yes he is, thats why I daon't have a problem with his outing.

[Demonaut]

28. nor I

but he deserves it

[Hello_Kitty]

83. I just don't get....

How a gay person, closeted or not, can be socially conservative. I can somewhat see having economically conservative views, but how do you publicly support anti-gay rhetoric and legislation and then go home to cuddle with your same-sex partner? That to me is the very definition of insanity.:eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. It's about time the hypocrite is outed.

I can't believe it didn't happen BEFORE now. What took so long?

Larry Flynt is busy??? Go, Larry!

[VaYallaDawg]

5. One report seems to indicate

that Brad Smith is on his congressional staff. So there, all you snickering repugs who thought McGreevey was Satan himself.

[realFedUp]

10. He's his Chief of Staff

and worked closely with Dreier on Arnold's campaign
and transition in Sacramento...wonder how many
votes they missed?

[Joanne98]

15. Maybe Arnolds gay too? n/t

Maria would be SHOCKED I tell you. :)

[realFedUp]

22. Didn't we read that Arnie does go both ways?

Thought he did some soft porn.

[AntiFascist]

68. NEA

Didn't he pose nude for Mapplethorpe? Aren't these photos on the web somewhere?

[IkeWarnedUs]

77. I don't know about on the internet . . .

. . . but I have Arnold's naked Maplethorp pictures in a book right here.

Doesn't necessarily mean he is gay.

But I attest to the authenticity of the pictures.

[AntiCoup2K4]

43. Now now... you can't out the Gropenator

He said he was OK with gay marriage between a man and a woman, remember?

[realFedUp]

45. lol

I'm sure he's gay with Maria....

[alfredo]

73. Rumors of him were circulation after

Pumping iron. I see no need to out him. I don't think he has acted against gays afaik.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

80. When he was a body builder Ahnold posed nude for gay porn mags

[diamond14]

6. reTHUGlicans should not throw rocks, while living in glass houses

these hypocrits were the people who tried to LEGALIZE BIGOTRY in the United States Constitution....I am glad that they are being outed and I hope the VOTERS throw them all out....

reminds me of Clinton's blow-job trials...when Larry Flynt put an ad in the paper, asking for people who had sex with standing members of Congress or high-level government officials...it was a rush of info on the ghastly affairs of blow-job chairman Henry Hyde (is he still around?) who wrecked a marriage, and others....one guy RESIGNED his position in Congress and went home rather than have his sexual matters revealed....

[Joanne98]

20. Henry Hyde is now the head of the "foreign relations committee" n/t

[IkeWarnedUs]

79. Livingston resigned

Livingston was Speaker of the House and he resigned when news of a sex scandal broke. I remember him calling on Bill Clinton to do the same - yeah, right.

That's how we ended up with that bloated sock puppet, Hastert, as the Speaker of the House. Kind of like how they picked Gerald Ford to be the president after Nixon. Find someone that no one can complain about. Forget about judgement and experience. Find someone who didn't do anything too stupid.

Hastert's leading qualification for becoming Speaker is he kept his zipper up.

[tom_paine]

8. Good.

Let them reap what they sow.

[blm]

52. Now let's move on to Lindsey Graham.

.

[newsguyatl]

66. yes! lindsey graham next

followed by foley!

[Vanje]

67. Then, By God! Karl Rove!!!!!

Big ugly queen!

[AmerDem]

9. unfortunately this is what has to be done

To show these repuke hypocrites for what they are.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

31. I agree. I am for outing ALL Gay Republicans.

Shame them. It's time we play dirty!

[bleedingheart]

11. While I am not for "outing" people ..the hypocrites are my exception

[Skidmore]

14. I'd add those hetrosexyoualls

who are screwing around outside their marriages as well. These guys want to dictate to everyone else what goes on their homes, bedrooms, and lives. I'd say conservative politician who doesn't live up to the basic spew on their social agenda needs to be outed for the hypocrites they are. It sure would take the wind out of their sails.

[bleedingheart]

18. I have to agree..."outing" any hypocrite is enlightening

personally I am waiting for the big scandal that will bring Santorectum to his knees.

[realFedUp]

12. Like Bob Novak said, politicians should be honest

about who they are...after McGreevey was outed.

And the day after, I think on Matthew's Saturday show
Dreier said McGreevey should step down. And that's
without knowing whether there was a lawsuit pending
from Cipal whatshisname.

[realFedUp]

13. Why wasn't Dreier honest with his voters?

[AlCzervik]

19. There lies the one of the many problems in being a republican

why would anybody want to be in a party that not only doesnt want them but that thinks they are an abomination?

[realFedUp]

33. I'm sure Drudge knew Dreier was gay

The closet keepers...

[realFedUp]

35. Drudge doesn't even have this up yet...

hypocrite.

[EST]

16. When you are a vicious, vile freedom killer

who puts on the clothes of a thoughtful, valuable human being, you deserve to be exposed. If one of those things that you have hidden is homosexuality, because you think it somehow makes you look weak or vulnerable and you won't fit in so well with your evil brothers, then it is important that you be fully exposed-for all to see.

Nobody that I choose to associate with would try to make fun of you for being gay, but when you choose to hide your sexuality in order to attack others, you deserve no sympathy!

[Touchdown]

17. A picture of Drier

OOPS! That's a CEO of something...here he is...

[AlCzervik]

21. you're kidding right?

who is that?

[realFedUp]

23. That's not Dreier

who is that?

[Touchdown]

26. He's "A" David Drier. Sorry.

He's the CEO of some company called Intrav Inc.

Sorry. I should've put in Congressman and looked closer.

[realFedUp]

27. Interesting that Republicans made him respond to McGreevey outing

He must want higher office bad.....

He was thinking of running for CA Senate...

[Joanne98]

24. That's not Drier.......n/t

Your looking for the one that hangs around with Arnold all the time.

[BurtWorm]

25. I don't think so. Dreier is a cable news whore. He looks like this:

We've all seen him a million times trashing Democrats on Hardball, Geraldo, Crossfire, etc.

[Touchdown]

29. Yeah, but mine was cuter.

:D

[EST]

30. Heh! You can always tell which is the thug-

look for the ones with souls the size of a fruit fly turd!

[realFedUp]

32. We'll see what kind of local coverage this gets

Pasadena Star News? A conservative owned rag... or
Pasadena Weekly...LA Times owned...more freedom of press here.

Dreier is facing an election in Nov. against
a weaker female opponent. He'll probably win,
but not without some fight.

[against all enemies]

34. Hypocrites should be held responsible for their actions.

he is a hateful piece of shit, and is against human rights. If he is living a lie while trashing decent people on TV, let the chips fall where they may.

[ObaMania]

36. I was agin it... but that was before I was fer it!

Anyway.. it's about time.

I've always absolutely hated that dude.

[ObaMania]

37. Next should be Lindsay Graham!

[liberalcanuck]

38. I agree with the posts here. It looks good on those hypocrites that

are so vociferously against gay rights. It's so sickening that one could have such a double standard. How tortured emotionally they must be for publicly holding the party line when privately they live a different life.

Out all the hypocrites. A gay repuke is an oxymoron like a black repuke or environmental repuke.

[gauguin57]

39. Sex lives and abortions are nobody's business.

We're Liberals. I thought we believed the state has no place in people's bedrooms or wombs. Even if those bedrooms or wombs belong to hypocrites.

I know a massive hypocrite who makes a big right-wing/anti-abortion noise all the time, when she had a (secret) abortion during a horrible previous marriage. I'm one of the few who knows her past. But as much as it enrages me, I won't tell anyone. Because I believe in privacy in sex and reproduction. Just as the Clinton/Monica tryst was none of our business, so Dreier's living arrangements are none of our business. No matter how much it may make me CRAZY to hear the positions he espouses.

I don't believe in outing, even for hypocrites. They'll live in their own private hells for the rest of their lives ... just waiting for the shoe to drop. The pressure in their heads must scream for trepanning.

[progressivejazz]

40. The state has no place in people's bedrooms or wombs.

You're absolutely right on that. But we're not talking about the state here, so this part of your post is irrelevant. And the Clinton/Monica thing was the state's action, too, so that's also irrelevant.

As for the rest, I disagree. I'd like the shoe to drop on Dreier and the rest of his ilk.

I'd like to be able to say in a few days, "He got outed the old-fashioned way, he earned it."

[realFedUp]

44. I would imagine the truth will finally set them free

His voters will make up their minds if
he's pushed good legislation for them,
but in the meantime they need to ask
why he hasn't been honest with them,
while he's been forcefully against
civil rights in gay partnerships.

Gays shouldn't be ashamed or hide who
they are in this day and age, although
certainly the rightwingnuts have made
it hard for them to be honest. Liberals
should not feel stigmatized by "outing"
anyone...it's nothing to feel ashamed of.
It's not a crime.

[noiretextatique]

63. people who espouse one thing publically for everyone else

should be exposed as hypocrites. an vocal anti-choice woman who has an abortion would be at the top of my list.

[mondo joe]

64. This is the press, not the state.

Elected officials decide to put themselves up to public scrutiny.

[IdaBriggs]

85. But its for the good of their souls! <sarcasm> nt

[HughBeaumont]

41. Dreier hates the middle class

and champions offshoring of American jobs heavily . . .

So f-f-f-fuck him.

[realFedUp]

42. I wonder what his middle class voters will think?

Covina isn't exactly Beverly Hills...

[HughBeaumont]

49. Hopefully roast his ass

for his hypocrisy.

[realFedUp]

54. I don't see him losing his Nov. election

but it will just stop him from being
such a mediawhore as often.

[UdoKier]

46. I'm all for outing anti-gay politicians...

Assuming Dreier has an anti-gay voting record, outing him is fair game, but I hope the folks doing the outing are DAMN sure that they're right. Outing an "innocent*" man would backfire and not help us at all, besides the fact that it's just plain wrong.


*not to imply that homosexuality is a crime to be "guilty" of...

[realFedUp]

47. People know he's gay

and they know who his partner is.

It's ok for them to come out now
and actually we'd think more of him
if he pulled a McGreevey and had
a press conference.

[UdoKier]

48. I love the way you use the return key.

looks a little like haiku.

[realFedUp]

55. thanks for noticing

I like slim paragraphs
that are easy to read.
:-)

[realFedUp]

53. My little commentary on gays and lesbians

All creation's people are the children of God.
All are created under our Constitution with
equal rights under the law. Some are more equal
than others as we keep finding out, and gays
and lesbians should have the same laws given
by the Federal government to a married heterosexual
couple when they marry.

Conservatives have made being gay and lesbian
a shameful "choice" as if they had a choice
in who they are and are attracted to.

Committed relationships bound by law should
be celebrated in this country and not be looked
on as a shame based deed.

There is no such thing as outing, if you believe
that gays and lesbians should be celebrated
and honored as our neighbors, friends, family,
contributing members of the human family.

There is only outing if you believe you believe
someone is doing a shameful thing....like conservatives
and the Christian Taliban leaders.

Howabout truth telling from now on if you are making
laws for all of us. We don't care who you love and choose
to live with. Just tell us, so we know where some of
your interests lie.

[progressivebydesign]

51. True.. being careful is a good idea. Lots of men have male roommates! n/t

[progressivebydesign]

50. Hypocrites deserve to be outed, as a public service, if he is one.

I don't support outing anyone, if they are simply living their life and being good people. But.. when someone actively works against those who he TRULY lives amongst, then the hypocrisy should be uncovered. I don't know enough about Dreier's work to know if he is truly a hypocrite. Being gay and not supporting gay marriage is not grounds for outing, imho, if that is all they're basing it on. That's more of a spiteful act toward him.

The same for those that proclaim to be ultra-religious, yet live in a way that totally belies it... like the tv preachers.

[Rockholm]

56. Out the Hypocritical Bastard.

[Chovexani]

57. Out all the hypocrites

Out every last one of them.

[autorank]

58. Major Loss for the GOP

He's about the only non Southerner the GOP can put on the networks to debate. He and Rangle go at it a lot. If he drops out, they need a new 'spokes-model.'

[realFedUp]

60. Well, if they accept Arnie...they can get over Dreier....

after all bin Laden was a pal of our CIA
and Republican Congressmen during the time
we opposed the Russians in Afghanistan.
People say bin Laden had a CIA operative's
name and training.

Read Charlie Wilson's War by George Crile.
Most Americans don't even know we trained
bin Laden and the Muhajadeen.

[autorank]

70. Arnie will explode!

That guy can't go from steroid rat pack Hollywood guy to the type of behaivor required of a governor. As a CA native son, I can only hope that the Dem majority will form an avid audience for some defining personal or political scandal. I think the LA Times is ready for some payback and they're loading up. I'll never forgive (not that he cares) Bustamonte for taking that gambling money right after he was in the lead. Talk about Tin Ear syndrome. Keep the faith!

[Freddie Stubbs]

69. I wouldn't assume that he will drop out

He is from California, which isn't exactly a conservative state (as opposed to Shrock, who is from VA). There already is one openly gay GOPer in Congress, and he keeps getting reelected.

[autorank]

71. Yeah but...

I presume the gay cong. is a Dem. Isn't Drier from the foot hills and Pamona territory? He's such a little shit I can only wish him ill. I DO NOT think he sould drop out because he's gay; but if he does, c'est la vie (I'm using all the French I can lately).

[realFedUp]

74. He's a Republican

Covina. He has a conservative district.

[autorank]

78. Then he drops out. n/t

[realFedUp]

84. I don't think so.

He doesn't have strong opposition and
I doubt that voters will vote him out
over this.

[Hubert Flottz]

59. Good!

WTG Larry!

[realFedUp]

61. Hubert, I miss your thongs

:-)

[AmerDem]

62. kick

[noiretextatique]

65. oh well...

living a lie is one thing...
but cowering in the closet while screwing over other gay people...that's another thing entirely. i don't have a problem with this outing.

[Shallah Kali]

72. According to Blogactive Dreier has a 92% rating from Christian Coalition

http://www.blogactive.com/2004/09/congressman-david-dreier-votes-for-all_08.html

I would say that qualifies him as a hypocrite. I could care less about the gayness or straightness of any politican. It is the hypocracy of the situation that deserves exposure. As others have said it is like those who went after Clinton while having their own extramarital flings left and right.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

75. Drier outed on Monday - - George W. Bush outed on Tuesday

It appears that Kitty Kelley's book will contain a major bombshell on yet another Republican hypocrite.

[realFedUp]

76. and Ivan in the middle.....

[Michael Harrington]

81. Well...he's thin and really neat...

(*A little Seinfeld reference. I couldn't resist*)

Who's the Holy Grail of hypocrisy, the one that would make you piss your pants with glee if he (or she) was outed?

I love the idea of (p)Rick Santorum, but mine is Orrin Hatch.

[realFedUp]

82. I don't know about either of those guys

I do know about Dreier. I'm surprised
he hasn't called a press conference yet.
Too many people know his sexuality for
him to deny it.