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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:06 PM
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Did a republican prevent Clinton from getting Bin Laden?
Pages 126 and 127 of the 9/11 Report contain a very interesting few paragraphs. Toward the end of 1998 Clinton signed an Executive order freezing terrorist assets and authorizing the CIA to wack Osama.

Also during this time, Clinton ordered the CIA to step up operations against Bin Laden and directed the pentagon to come up with boots on the ground options to kill or capture Bin Laden.

After being ordered by Clinton to August and September "had brought the greatest number of arrests" and attack disruptions since Al Queda was identified as a major terrorist outfit. While rested by some in the pentagon, operations were planned to go in and get Osama.

suddenly something happened. "..al Queda's senior leadership stopped using a certain method of communication almost immediately after a leak to the Washington Times."

The Washington Times. Who would call the Moonie Times to warn Osama to stop using satellite phones, especially when a new push is being made to get Bin Laden and as good intel starts coming in? Had to be someone who knew this new push was underway.

Who would do this? Who would deny America a chance to capture a terrorist who had killed hundreds of Americans? Did they do this to deny a Democratic president a political coup in catching a terrorist leader? Did they do it to prevent embarrassment to the Saudis?

Hmmmmm. I wonder who would do a thing like that?

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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:09 PM
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1. Seriously, yes they did.
the question is, did they want him around for excuses to invake the middle east for oil, or worse, just in case they needed an excuse for anything that came to mind.

repthugs seriously hate america. holding on to power was more important to them than the 3000 who died on 9/11.

seriously.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:11 PM
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2. This might be a good reason...
... for Kerry to suspend the privileges of previous Presidents to receive regular CIA briefings if they request them.... :think:
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:11 PM
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3. I have always maintained that the Repuke congress
in the late 90's are directly responsible for the tragedy of 9-11. If they had paid attention to their jobs instead of Clinton's penis, we would have been way ahead of the "war on terror".
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:13 PM
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4. No truer words! n/t
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slojim240 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:56 PM
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9. I hear ya!! That's the point Dems wouldn't make or rather the media would
not let them make. The media is very powerful in this country...the right wing media, that is. They can virtually cut off a message simply by ignoring it. We have got to learn how to scream our points in various ways. We need to behave like Repukes by answering questions that are never asked. When we get on these talk shows, we need to learn how to overtake the message and get our points across.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:15 PM
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5. And why did Bush pull the tactical subs and surveillance drones
off station as one of his 1st acts after taking office? Interesting too, this administration publicly mentioned the word "Al Qaeda" only once prior to 9/11/01....even though there was plenty of warnings coming from countries throughout the summer of 2001.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:24 PM
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6. Every day the depth and scope of my 'un-understanding' widens.
This past week:

I read the thread and links that imply that Saudi Arabia doesn't want peace in Israel because peace between Israel and Palestine is equal to democracy and they fear democracy could spread to Saudi Arabia.

I read that some in the Pentagon are one and the same with Israel, but they don't think that sharing and vetting strategy and plans with Israel is treasonous.

I read words that made the triangle jump out at me - the Bush neo clan and cabal at one point, the Saudi Arabians at another, Israel at another.

Over or under layered is the UK, Italy, and Spain (there is something about Spain being connected?).

Now, with this news about the Washington Times, we have to add a point for Rev Moon who appears to be a country of his own. Does his 'country' fit with the U.S., S.A., and Israel triangle or with the U.K., Italy, and Spain (?) one?

Anyway, it sounds like we are getting screwed by the military leaders and heads of states of all these countries, plus a cult leader. Guess we have to ask Bill Gertz?

Remind me, are we still asking people to look up to us as a model of democracy?

And where does Murdoch fit in?

Anyone concerned that we appear to be a full blown military dictatorship based on what is going on now? Democracy and a president and a congress and a supreme court are all fronts for exporting an attribute that we don't have in stock anymore.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:36 PM
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7. A Republican *did* prevent him from getting a M.E. peace treaty...
...or at least did his best to thwart President Clinton's efforts.

Check it out:

"The Middle East peace talks at Camp David became the subject of a political scandal in the US last night when reports emerged that one of George W Bush's foreign policy advisers had warned the Israeli delegation to be prepared to walk out of negotiations.

Richard Perle, a veteran cold war warrior and former assistant secretary of state, urged the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, not to agree to any settlement which left the future status of Jerusalem unresolved, according to the New York Post website.

Democrats responded angrily to what they portrayed as Republican meddling in the delicate negotiations currently under way at the presidential retreat at Camp David, Maryland, aimed at reaching a final settlement in the 52-year Israeli-Palestinian conflict "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,342854,00.html

Perle is a f-ing traitor, IMHO. If we ever get a *real* Attorney General again and take the chains off the FBI, he should be perp-walking along with the other neocons who set our troops up to become targets in Iraq.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 07:47 PM
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8. I think dual citizenships should all be revoked.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:36 PM
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11. I think the 1998 events had more to do with the midterm elections
and impeachment than anything to do with Israel.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:09 PM
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12. Perle claims to be a Dem
Proof that not all the conservative idiots of the world are Republicans.
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sid dicious Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 08:18 PM
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10. Ok...sure...why not
yeah...ok...
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:46 PM
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13. Repukes are in bed with Bin Laden
and they surgically removed Clinton to protect their bedmate.

Because they hate America
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:21 PM
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14. I was in Europe when
our embassies were hit. I saw the carnage on TV but wasn't sure what was going on. I didn't speak the language so I had to wait until later that day for the half hour of ABC News from America.

So finally I get the news from the States and it is 2 minutes of info on the bombings and the rest of the newscast is devoted to Monica Lewinsky getting some kind of immunity and all kinds of shots of her and her attorney Plato Cacheras.

Back then it was all Monica, all the time. There is no way the Republicans, who were looking for any means possible of bringing down Clinton, would have gone along with any diversionary tactic like going after a terrorist. Would not have happened.

There wsa even some RW Repug article I kept about Clinton not having the moral authority to go after the terrorists. They would never have allowed Clinton to be successful at that.

MzPip
:dem:
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