Will the young republican who stomped on the protestor....

[skooooo]

..inside MSG get arrested? Has anyone heard about this incident and what if anything has happened to the young fascist..err...republican???

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Details?

:shrug:

[alittlelark]

22. His name is Taylor Bickford

he grabbed her sign, helped to pull her down, then kicked her. sicko

http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc.html#update

click 'see the quicktime movie'

[Nlighten1]

23. Taylor Bickford is from Alaska.

Any DU'ers from Alaska?

[robpopulace]

24. Their Hero

[belle]

30. hm, not too far from Travis Bickle. fuckwad.

[Fone Book]

2. I haven't heard about this!

Do you have a link to an article about this?

[skooooo]

3. Saw it on the local news here in NY...

There were about 12 people who got into the convention w/credentials during the Young Republicans' Hoe-down this morning (or whatever they call it) and began protesting right in the middle of it. There was a little shoving that went on, and a young female fell or got shoved to the ground.

One of the Republican teenagers started kicking and stomping on her before someone pulled her up. Afterward a TV news crew put the camera on him and asked him if he knew they caught him on camera kicking the girl. He didn't react at first, and then said that he never did that.

They said, we have you on camera kicking her. He was shocked. The guy, as I remember had reddish curly hair. I probably saw it on that NY1 news station, if anyone knows what I'm talking about.

[Virginian]

4. No conviction, he's a Republican. Above the law.

[proud patriot]

5. Justice will come his way , he was caught on video

I hope she is okay .

[skooooo]

6. Did you see it then too??

Yeah...it's going to catch up with him, I bet.

[scarletwoman]

7. Does that local station have a website?

All our local stations do, and they put up video of their newscasts. I hope you'll look for a link!

sw

[skooooo]

8. I'll look for one....

...It's that station that has "Weather on the Ones" -- anyone know what I"m talking about?

[nostamj]

13. NY1 - here's their site

http://www.ny1.com/

[skooooo]

16. I still can't find the video anywhere...

...nor a picture of the kid. This is unbelievable. SOMEONE must have a video of that incident, cause they showed it on TV. The kid had a green shirt on...

[Romulus]

44. see allcaps post below (eom)

[lanparty]

9. Straussian ideals!!!!

He's a Republican, his morality doesn't bind him to the truth. Remember, Jesus comes first. But Strauss comes before Jesus.

[skooooo]

10. Strauss??

I should probably know this, but I don't. Care to explain?

[rooboy]

11. Leo Strauss...

was a 19th century (?) philosopher who appears to be the inspiration for the neocons. Basically believed that the means justifies the ends.

[ursacorwin]

32. close, but not quite right.

he was a guy who taught at the U of Chicago up until the 70s. a german jew who just escaped the holocaust, he wrote extensively on religion, politics, and "hidden discourse" in order to create a philosophy that he believed should replace all other philosophical products of the enlightenment.

wolfie, perle and chalabi (?) were students of his, acolytes is a better word. and troskyites. really! a lot of weird stuff can be found in strauss' work, but the key points include that a ruling elite should use religion and fear mongering to oppress the world's masses and control its resources for themselves. ethics and morality are for the 'weak,' deception and lies the tools of those who 'deserve' to rule. sound familiar?

[skooooo]

12. Pictures of disruption...

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/111882/index.php

Still I haven't found a pic of the kid who was kicking one of the female protestors while she was on the ground. If anyone knows where I can find his pic, let me know.

[realFedUp]

14. The protesters had valid Young Republican passes

They didn't sneak in. It shouldn't be hard to
ID the stomper.

[Cat Atomic]

15. They always kick people when they're down.

Literally and metaphorically. It's part of the code.

I assume the Republican would say it's her fault for falling on the ground, and if she were a good person god would not have allowed him to kick her.

[PatriotGames]

17. Yeah, that seems to be their motto. If a protester beats up a young

repub, you know all hell would break loose.

[chromotone]

27. Sure, the GOP will think "If God didn't want her kicked and stomped on..."

"...He wouldn't have pulled her feet out from under her!" :eyes:

[skooooo]

18. There is a QuickTime link supposedly at this site...

I can't check it myself because the computer I'm on won't let me. Can someone let me know ?

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/113972/index.php

"WABC News telecasts footage of a young Republican kicking young Asian woman protester while on the ground.
WABC TV interviewed this young Republican afterwards, saying that cameras show him kicking a protester -- to which he just
looks blankly into the camera for a good 5 seconds saying nothing."

[hatrack]

19. Tried it, but it wouldn't fire up - and I'm on a DSL network

:shrug:

[alittlelark]

20. I saw it

his name is Taylor Bickford

http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc.html#update


click on 'see the quick time movie

[IkeWarnedUs]

26. Do you need an Apple computer to watch the movie?

I tried skooooo and alittlelark's links (both to same source) and it wants to open in "Apple Quicktime". I don't know much about all of this and I hesitate to put more programs on my pc. Is there a way to watch this on Windows Media Player?

[alittlelark]

28. I'm on an e-Mac

[mountebank]

38. Just download Quicktime for Windows.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

[0007]

52. I hate Real Player. They run 'ya around in circles and for

every site one uses you need plug-in's for that site. Screw 'em!! Some links are so cool, the video opens right up with no problem.

[kayell]

31. Compassionate Republican beatings

God that was ugly. Does anyone know if the protestor is ok?

It loaded fine, although a bit slowly for me. I've got windows, T1 at work.

[Cronus Protagonist]

33. Here's a direct link to the video and a pic of the defendant

Maybe it's the javascript that's causing it to fail for you.

http://www.actupny.org/reports/nc_nyc-kicking.mov

And here's the bully...

[underseasurveyor]

50. Eerie.....if his hair were cut shorter

he reminds me of a young gwboosh, yuk. Then again maybe it's just that same kind of attitude that comes across and gives him that similar Dim-Son "air" about him.

[Darth_Kitten]

53. I guess his parents taught him to hate and abuse women.....

but not have to explain himself properly. :puke: :eyes:

Little fascist. :eyes:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. did someone stomp on the Code Pink woman during cheney's speech..........

or was it from during the "young rethugs" incedent?

[progressivebydesign]

25. I saw the video on tv last night..

I also think they should charge the person that shoved the protester off of the chair.. he crashed down onto a row of chairs and looked injured. It was one of the most sickening displays I have every witnessed.. I was sick watching it. All the protesters did was yell and hold up signs. The Bush Youth attacked them immediately, and I mean ATTACKED. It was nauseating. Rather than wait for security to handle it, these BUSH YOUTH went nuts on them. The one girl who was attacked was screaming as the security people put her in a headlock. It was TOTALLY uncalled for. Nice to see how polite these Bush Youth are... they were savages.

[Mad_Dem_X]

29. Holy Sh*t - this is the first I've heard of this

Savages! I hope they *do* get charged! :nuke:

"Bush Youth" - I like that...

[peace4all]

34. first, the woman needs to press assault charges

at least that is a start.

[Surf Cowboy]

35. He should be charged and convicted of agg assault.

If he isn't, I hope someone finds and posts his address on DU so that it can be taken care of in another fashion.

Any sorry sack of shit who would throw down and kick a woman needs to get the ever-living hell beat out of him. Whaddya bet he supports the Iraq war but is too pussy to fight?

[Name removed]

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[DoNotRefill]

37. Ummm...it might be better for all involved if this "went away"...

because if it gets into a big bruhaha, the protesters may well face charges for the NY equivalent of inciting to riot or causing a breach of the peace, not to mention gaining access through deception. These are serious charges.

I have a hard time imagining that a judge would find that the protester's actions didn't constitute "fighting words" in that time and place.

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[DoNotRefill]

40. I just know how the system works....

having been beaten before, pressed charges, and found myself up on charges for inciting to riot because I did so...

[Cronus Protagonist]

41. Then you know the book will be thrown at the protestors already

And it's only fair that this little woman-beater gets punked too.


Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[DoNotRefill]

42. Not necessarily...

I wasn't charged until I pressed charges against my attacker. The cops seemed to be operating on the principle of "keep 'em separated, no blood, no foul" until I insisted that they cite my attacker. The other people in my group were not charged.

[Cronus Protagonist]

45. Good for you

But I bet you didn't sneak into the convention under false pretences, unfurl banners and disrupt the proceedings. They will get the book thrown at them, the repubs will see to that. And the nasty little woman-beater needs to get his nads caught in a vice for what he did too.

Of course he'll have a top-notch attorney and get off with it, but at least we might see him in handcuffs...


Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[DoNotRefill]

46. do you know for a fact what she was charged with?

It's one thing to say "hang the guy, and damn the consequences", and an entirely different thing to say "hang the guy because it's in the woman's best interest."

While you're screaming for blood, just remember....some of that blood is more likely to come from the woman than the guy.

If the woman wants to press charges, that's her right. It's NOT your right to say that she has to, or to try and force her hands when the consequences could be very serious for her.

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. Hello?

It's my right to say whatever I want. I have two words for you: First Amendment.

Secondly, if you think that the ACT-UP protestors are not already arrested, sitting in jail with a string of charges against them, you're being absurdly naiive.

Thirdly, I never said, or screamed, "hang the guy because..." or anything approaching it, nor am I in a position to "force her hands" and I did not try to do that either.

I called for him to be charged with assault and labelled him a thug. Please drop it, you're getting your underwear in a twist over nothing.

Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[DoNotRefill]

48. The first amendment doesn't cover speech....

likely to result in an immediate breach of the peace. Never has, never will.

[Cronus Protagonist]

49. I was referring to my own speech (eom)

[Romulus]

43. BICKFORD MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT NAME

(sorry for yelling)

More info at this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x724681

AND this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x725147

[Name removed]

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[natrat]

54. sad indeed

getting portions of the population to hate one another must be in the playbook---keep em distracted

[Kathy in Cambridge]

55. Link to a RW website is not credible

for future reference...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. Charge Him. Republican hatred knows no bounds. Throw the key away.

Sounds like a prima facie case.

In a sense, the convention is their living room that they have invited the US into as guests. This is like domestic violence.

Throw the book at him.

[skooooo]

57. Surely ActUp will pursue legal action....

...and I'll contribute to the cause. Do the elder Republicans see the kind of youth they are raising?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. How Ironic that the Thuggery feared outside MSG shows up Inside, by Rethug

Before the convention everybody on both sides warned of violence and thuggery by anarchists and shades of Chicago 1968.

Surprise surprise. It showed up inside the convention hall. The Rethugs earned their nickname now.

[DinahMoeHum]

59. Proper punishment would be - Send that mofo to Iraq. . .

without proper armor, weapons, clothing, rations, etc. Just what our troops are experiencing right now.

Bastard will be crapping his pants in that 110-degree heat in no time. And what a juicy target for the Iraqis.


:evilgrin:

[skooooo]

60. Sounds like a reasonable solution...

....all the way around. That video is going to haunt that kid all his life....well it should anyway.

[Bluzmann57]

61. Good thinking!

I have a 20 year old daughter and I guarantee you if a punk like that kicked and beat her, he'd have hell to pay. I am pretty sure that I am bigger than him, so I say send him my way and I will pretend it was my daughter that was assaulted. Hopefully the NYPD will jump all over this clown and hopefully, there will be some sort of media somewhere about this disgraceful incident.

[yankeedem]

62. Go to 7online.com

WABC has the video there, they were the one who broadcast the incident. Down the memory hole it goes!

[mountebank]

63. MSNBC's take on this. Pure bullshit.

I think they are describing the same incident, although it doesn't sound like what I saw in that video....

<snip>
Also taken into custody on Wednesday were a dozen whistle-blowing AIDS activists who infiltrated the Garden during a gathering of young Republicans.

A scuffle broke out, and one young Republican suffered a cut near his temple. A demonstrator, with authorities grabbing her knees and shoulders, was carried off the floor to cheers.
<snip>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5822306/