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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:25 PM
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When Anarchists Attack -- counter-protestors attacked in NYC
http://jasonn.com/~blindpig/

Can you actually defend people like that? :/
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:37 PM
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1. I can.
The people behind the fence don't blink at the killing of 20,000 people.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:59 PM
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3. Wait a sec
So you advocate violence against nonviolent protestors?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:28 PM
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9. they didn't have a permit to be there
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 02:29 PM by Cheswick
they shouldn't have infiltrated a peaceful demonstration to incite violence. I don't advocate violence towards anyone. But I do think the peace protestors had a right to fight back after they were shoved and hit.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:14 PM
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22. But they shouldn't

That was the point of the agitation, to provoke a riot and give the police an excuse to move in and break things up.

BTW, the protestors for our side don't have permits for Centrail Park. And I think they have EVERY right to be there.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 03:10 PM
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16. No, not against non-violent protestors. n/t
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 03:13 PM by LoZoccolo
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:37 PM
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2. Hard to tell who's who there
and a huge download at 15Mb.

I saw counters at the Sunday march too. They had signs that said they were "Communists for Kerry" and we told them they were liars who supported a liar. They can't tell the truth about Boosh so they tell lies about Kerry.

But my thought later and watching this, was do these counters have permits? Or are they just trying to screw with people who do?
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:02 PM
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4. CFK = PW
Permits? It's freedom of speech.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:02 PM
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5. that was "Protest Warriors" and they are RW scum
If you search "scum" here at DU you will see the thread on them.

What happened today? I'm on dial-up, no time for a big download.

p.s. We might stop by Rocky's again tonight.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:26 PM
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7. Looks to me like the counter protestors started the trouble
and were the first to get physical. Why did the one counter protestor hit that girl with his sign? That seems to be the first strike.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:39 PM
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:44 PM
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13. no the counter protestors started the physical violence
That is what I saw in the video.
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sub.theory Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:41 PM
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12. That's how it looks to me
The protestwarrior idiots clearly were in the wrong. They started it and then tried to scream for the police to save them once the crowd turned on them. Those were hardly "anarchists" either.
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TheSuaveOne Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:47 PM
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14. I don't condem violence...
...on either side. Our freedoms only extend far enough not to intrude on others...la
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 03:03 PM
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15. I came face to face with protestwarriors
They want you to call them facsists so Don't
call them that .

instead please call them Traitors to the Constitution
it is much more effective .

:evilgrin:

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Noodleboy13 Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:14 PM
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17. Ask if they've enlisted.
These PW kids can talk the talk, but can they walk the walk? It is one thing to call oneself a warrior, another to actually become a warrior.
If they haven't joined up, call em chickens. GO all out: make little chicken wings with your arms, walk goofy, follow em around going "Bawk-Bawk." Seriously, get as childish and stupid as possible. You're dealing with a very childish mentality, so get playground on their butts. Not only is it really kinda fun to act like a chicken, it infuriates them.
I believe Martin Luther said something to the effect of "It is best to mock and jeer at Satan, for he is proud and connot abide scorn"

This is the up to date, one calorie version of that.


Bawk!
Noodleboy
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:35 PM
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33. Carry Army brochures .. make sure to hand them out to the "Warriors"
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:42 PM
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18. Anarchist or cop? n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:57 PM
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19. F*** those pussies!
They were there to start too shit bad if they don't like what happened to them.

Also, I didn't anyone suggest that they sign up for duty?
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:36 PM
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20. From PW
Eyoan Mor Mag Uidhir wrote:
On the vid, there's a guy in a green t-shirt. He's all red and enraged. HE's the limpdicked little bastard that attacked the girl in our group. He's a little upset because I took him to the ground by his nostrils and introduced his face to me knee on the way down (I had to break his fall). I was defending my PW sister, and once he was off her, I let him go. It took great restraint not to toss in a few extra shots.


Attacked the GIRL.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:45 PM
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23. So...you're defending PW?
That site that posted a picture with the implicit quote beneath it that advocated shooting liberals? You're defending them?
Is that it?
And honestly, from what you've posted above, it sounds like he smashed his knee into the other person while forcing them to the ground by their nose. A little extreme, no?

Considering what these people will do if given the chance, are you still defending them?
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:57 PM
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24. Yes.
If I am with a girl, and anyone hits her -- liberal OR conservative, I'd do the SAME FUCKING THING. You do NOT hit a girl, and if you do it in front of me, you ARE starting a fight with me.

Yes, I have actually become a regular poster on PW as of late. I enjoy arguing.

What these people will do? Beat up a jackass who hit a female friend of his? You're damn right I'll defend that.
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sub.theory Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:03 PM
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26. Give me a break
I can't believe the police haven't arrested them yet for inciting a riot. That's been their goal since day one. They aren't practicing free speech, they are trying to start a fight. Then when they finally get one they scream for the police to save them. Cowards. Everyone, just ignore these assholes. They aren't worth it.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:12 PM
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27. While your intentions are, supposedly, noble...
PW exists simply to counter-protest those who protest the right-wing.
While they hide under the shelter of the First Amendment, their goal is to SHUT US UP BY INTIMIDATION OR PHYSICAL VIOLENCE!

And you defend them.

Their goal is to silence us who would question the right wing.

And you defend them.

The event on the video notwithstanding, (I'll not waste bandwith downloading something from that site or from its members) their goal is to shut us up.

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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:18 PM
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28. Wrong.
I have talked to a number of PWs -- they are nonviolent, and the only thing "intimidating" is their signs if you call that intimidation -- they don't carry weapons or start fights.

I have also watched over 2 hours of their video footage -- and I have never seen a PW attack anyone.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:24 PM
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31. Whoopide doo!
Congrats! You support warmongers.
Supporting those who "crash" (a word used extensively on their site) peace protests. Even though their whole purpose is to silence us.
Give me a break.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:27 PM
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32. I'm anti-war.
Simple enough...
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cosmicvortex20 Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:43 PM
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34. Somehow that just doesnt smell right...
I got my own issues with PW, but to say that a group of some 20 odd people are going to initiate violence on a crowd of thousands is beyond belief.

They may be stupid, but I have a hard time believing their suicidal.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 01:29 AM
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35. Agreed.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:19 PM
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30. At 1:29 in the video a "Protest Warrior" shows his might by smacking
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 10:20 PM by FDRrocks
the woman in the green bandana with his sign, it is right this moment when mr-liberal-guy-in-black-who-i-wouldnt-want-to-get-in-a-brawl-with stands up, as other posters have said, for a woman. I failed to see "the limpdick in the green" snag a woman or get his ass knocked out.

edit: This was meant as a post to main topic, sorry. :)
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:11 PM
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21. agitators ...
...

They were trying to pick a fight.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:02 PM
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25. The protests were peaceful
Yesterday, even the righties were commenting on how "American" the protesters were acting. In the video it's hard to tell who started what, so I'm going to say, well with so many people and such high tensions little outbreaks like this are to be expected...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:19 PM
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29. I'm sure the police have more detailed videos of the altercation.
If it was PW that started it, it will be ignored by the media.
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