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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:42 PM
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Malloy sounds uninformed and unprepared
I'm disappointed. For a debut, he should've knocked them dead, he's not even focused. Malloy let that Nader supporter go on and on in the beginning, the caller even said "I can go on if you want me to". Then gave him the usual "a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush" routine. The next caller had something to say about Nader supporters, perhaps a more appropriate answer, but Malloy wouldn't let him continue. Weird.

Anyway, Malloy can't hold a candle to Bernie Ward, actually very few can, but let's hope he does better than tonight. WLIB 1190 in New York actually dropped him after 11pm, WTF??
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:44 PM
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1. You try it.
You try doing this ten days after having a new baby.
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zls44 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:46 PM
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4. Check out Mike & Ben's websites
Mike will post after every show a long list of articles that he uses during the course of his show. The man uses facts to go off on tangents.

As for Ben's, check out his archives of Mike's old shows, when he was on a roll and not having to adjust to a new network. Few rant better.
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zls44 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:47 PM
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8. Hey, I should link, dontya think?
www.Mikemalloy.com
www.whiterosesociety.org
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:51 PM
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14. He had a baby? Now thats news!
Whats his wife think about that?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:44 AM
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53. Jon Stewart Managed
After all, it's not as though Malloy is the one who actually gave birth...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:27 PM
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114. Jon Stewart has a team of writers and doesn't do every segment of
a half hour show, 4 nights a week. No comparison to doing 3 hours live, basically unscripted. That's not taking away anything from Jon Stewart, whom I adore. But it's like comparing apples and oranges....
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:32 AM
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62. Yep, that was his problem last night......
a new little one has had him awake for a week now. Besides, they just had their first baby and he's in a honeymoon state of mind. Give him a little time to accustomed to everything. New babe, new job, new surroundings. He's a professional and will be great.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:39 AM
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63. but... but...
I said the same EXACT thing about Janeane Garofalo and Al Franken. But that was reasonable - neither one had done radio before.

Hundreds of people here clamored for Mike Malloy to be on AR because he was ALREADY A RADIO STAR!!!!

Excusing a show because it was his first is, I'm sorry, lame. Nobody's complaining about his technical problems (which I found very slight). People are simply saying that he was good... tolerable... well-spoken... good-voiced... yet not exciting.

If you had NEVER heard him before in your life, would tonight's show turn you into a rabid fan?

For me, if I didn't know what others here on DU had to say about him, I'd never tune in again.

But I will tune in again. And I expect I will come to love him. But tonight's show did not do anything to draw in a new audience.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:17 AM
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76. I understand your point.......
I do. But look how much AAR (the whole thing) has improved since it started. We hung in there with them. Can't we give him a chance at least? AND maybe there was something going on that we don't even know about. I'm just sayin'........
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:24 AM
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79. I don't know what part of
"I will tune in again and expect to come to love him" made you think I'd turn him off.

Jesus christ, people, READ before you start you typing.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:16 PM
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96. I didn't say you'd turn him off........
cause I don't think you would turn him off given the choices we have to listen to these days. Not much out there for Dems.
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:02 AM
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93. Well then . . .
It is your loss if you choose not listen to him. He is sleep-deprived due to Molly's constant crying. She is only 10 days old!

:hippie:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:22 AM
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70. Professionals Don't Make Excuses, New Babies or Not
If he's a professional, it's okay to say he had a bad night and move on. Excusing it because his wife gave birth is not what a professional would do. The world does not stop because someone had a baby.

Judging by how many here have said "but he just had a baaaaaaybeeeee" I'm guessing that the show I heard tonight was as tame and sub-standard as I thought it might be.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:22 AM
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78. Was he making excuses?
I didn't hear him make excuses. Maybe he did and I didn't hear him. All I heard him say was that he had had a baby a week ago, not that it was making his show sub-standard. I just surmised that was the reason for his performance or lack of performance.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:46 PM
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2. I have listened....
to Malloy for a long time and I know he is holding back tonight because it is his first show...he even said at the beginning that "tonight will not be my regular routine."
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:48 PM
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10. "makes me want to vomit blood?"
holding back?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:49 PM
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109. Yep.. he is probably "feeling his way back into it"..
He has lost a few gigs because of his outspoken shows.. He may be taking a measure of how he intends to approach this..

He will be a good addition to AAR.. Now if they will only pick up Guy James on Saturdays, I will be happy :)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #109
112. Yes, Guy James!!!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:46 PM
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3. A bit rocky yes....he'll be fine after his first night...you doubt it?
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 11:50 PM by Zinfandel
Then your in for a big surprise dude...the man, is the MAN. The best.

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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:46 PM
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5. You are entitled to your opinion
just like Judy Woodruff and Phyllis Schlafly.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:47 PM
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6. uh oh..............DUCK! n/t
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Sahjhan Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:47 PM
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7. It was his first night back in five or six months.
Not only that, Mike and Kathy just had a kid. I'm sure he's tired and stressed right now.

Give him time. He'll be opening a big can of whoopass on the republicans soon.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:47 PM
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9. Give him a break!
The guy has been out of radio for the last 5 months.
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:43 PM
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121. Can't really see he needs an excuse.
I listened first hour and a half. That call re Nader, rushed before commcl break, he answered with what was a zinger. Typical Nader whine is --Dem like Repub..supported by corps. His answer --jeeeez Nader IS $upported by corporations..exasperated. Criiis!! Nader has taken $$$ & signatures to get in from Republicans, Repugnant Party. We all know this, but apparently not some Naderistas.
The guy..sorry..sounded less than a bright wit.
Only left off listening for other reasons.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:48 PM
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11. bernie ward fans: we know you like your guy, and that's cool
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 11:49 PM by enki23
but why in hell do you feel you need to cut mike down in order to plug him?

mike's back after a five month hiatus. he has a nine-day-old baby. his wife, who just had the baby, is the other half of the production. he has a lot of fans calling in tonight, the first night of his new show, and it's mostly a love fest. why in hell do some of you feel the need to get so snippy about that?

and uninformed mike most certainly is not.

as for me, i think he's doing damned fine. i'm looking forward to a lot of mike in the days to come.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:48 PM
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12. I disagree
and I have another thread here saying that I would prefer a different host.

The only "uninformed" thing I heard was the part about Albert and Sasketchewan, and he immediately said he was wrong and apologized. You can't ask more than that.

My only really specific complaint was something of a failure to explain exactly what's being discussed at times. I think he's used to a very committed audience that knows all the issues. For example, regarding Sibel Edmonds, he just said "oh, the whistle-blower". You know who she is. I know who she is. Most people don't. A small explanation would've been useful for people not as politically aware as us.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:51 PM
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:52 PM
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15. ah
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 12:17 AM by Dookus
the "on the rag bitch" line. Nice. :eyes:

what a really fucked up thing to say.


on edit: Man, if somebody says a woman is "hot", 300 angry feminists with pitchforks storm the thread. Must_B_Free gets a free ride.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:00 AM
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21. Man, the Randi-bashers never seem to tire of bashing her...
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 12:07 AM by UdoKier
I wonder who's really on the rag.

Here's hoping the feminists get on your case for misogyny or whatever it is your post smacks of...
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:32 AM
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27. Who said anything about Randi?
:shrug:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:34 AM
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28. exactly
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 12:35 AM by Dookus
which on-the-rag bitch were you referring to?


on edit: don't play coy. We know exactly what you meant, and it's ridiculously offensive and the only reason it hasn't been deleted yet is because there doesn't seem to be a mod on duty. Calling any woman an "on the rag bitch" is against the rules.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:53 PM
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100. I think too many assumptions were made
You must think poorly of Randi if that who you thought I was referring to her.

For all you know, I may have been meaning a gay man, who can also be called the same.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:05 PM
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101. why not just say
who you referred to in your incredibly offensive, sexist post that was deleted?
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:12 PM
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110. Shame on you. You never know who is reading your posts. <nt>
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #27
33. Maybe you were talking about me?
Wanna' play?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:06 AM
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24. Excuse me?
"on-the-rag"???? As if hormones are the only reason women have the audacity to speak their minds? You're out of line there buddy boy.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:28 AM
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44. that's not nice.
n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:31 AM
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52. I'm amazed this nonsense
is still allowed to stand. You must be blessed, Must_B_Free. Not only hasn't the post been deleted, everybody seems to be letting it slide.

It was a stupid comment, and I see you never bothered to come back and clarify who you were talking about. Shame on you.
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:53 PM
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16. It's his first night back in months....
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 11:54 PM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
I like Mike over Bernie. Give him a few days to get back into the groove of things.
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TheSickEmpire Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:54 PM
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17. Give him a break
It's his first show in a while.

He said he is spending his first night taking calls.

Why do people have to be hyper-critical?

I think he's doing great.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:57 PM
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18. So you don't like him. But starting a thread tearing him apart
is a typical trait of a defeatist.

I wonder if Kerry/Edwards ever says something you do not agree with if you will go around bad mouthing them to the world.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:58 PM
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19. What the Hell are we arguing about?
Duh?
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:59 PM
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20. He had a baby 10 days ago!
I was a wreck 10 days after I had mine and I doubt I was even anywhere near as current on everything as he was tonight.
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:02 AM
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22. He mentioned being sleep deprived...
because of an infant in the house. Unfortunately, that can go on for quite a while. :shrug:
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:03 AM
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23. I disagree. I think Malloy is the best of the best.
Judging by the slightly milquetoast flavor of everything on AAR, I'm guessing they've asked him to "tone it down a bit" compared to what he did at ie america.

His righteous anger has so often distilled what I was feeling and helped to clarify the reasons I was feeling it -I'll always be grateful to him for that.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:13 AM
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25. Whee-you......
a little bit tight are ya? Kind of ridgid.......Someone is a bit uninformed....and it was not Mike.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:27 AM
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26. Give the guy a fucking break!
His first show on AAR, of course it is to be a nervous time, and there were plenty of glitches! But so what, he's gonna be good no matter what you nattering nabobs of negativity think!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:37 AM
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:48 AM
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30. Mike holds a candle for nobody...
Every radio host has a different style, and with Mike Malloy Air America adds the perceptive of the traditional left to those of the moderate Democrats...ie Ed Schultz, the neo-liberals..like Randi Rhodes, and the lighter political humor of Al Franklin.

I have listened to Mike Malloy for more than 10 years, and know that he either pisses listeners off or converts them to loyal fans. But with Mike there is no grey area. If you prefer Bernie Ward or some other host, then this is good for Air America. At least Mike will draw in a different set of listeners, rather than driving them away with tiresome reruns!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:52 AM
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32. I agree
but I will point out (and I started a thread on this earlier)that for people who had never heard Malloy before tonight (and I'm one of them) tonight's show wasn't terribly exciting. I'd seen literally a hundred posts here about his new show and how excited people were about it. I was expecting something really great, and I heard a nice-sounding man discussing politics rather calmly and coolly.

I've been told that's not his normal style. I believe that. But it's unfair to expect first-time listeners to KNOW that he's usually much different.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:02 AM
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36. tonight was one for the fans..
he usually picks several topics, and kicks those around for three hours. But on Fridays he traditionally leaves the theme open, and lets the callers pick the topics and drive the discussion. I feel this is something which makes him special, and is probably why his first show was modeled this way.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:27 AM
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38. yes, I understand
but it strikes me that from a marketing perspective, it would've been better to go full-out balls-to-the-wall and let new listeners know what he's about.

If I didn't know DU and how people spoke of him here, I wouldn't give him another listen.

His last show on the old network should've been for the old fans. His first show on the new network should be for the new audience.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:57 AM
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40. I didn't mean the old fans...
actually this show demonstrated exactly what Mike is about, caller driven talk radio. Unlike most radio hosts, Mike doesn't like the sound of his own voice..he allows the callers to decide what the issues are.

Rhodes, and Ed...nice shows, but I hate it when they say "and next is caller hour!"

With Mike Malloy, every show and every hour is caller hour! I love it, if you don't then try listening to someone else..
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:03 AM
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41. how 'bout
reading what I said instead of a knee-jerk "If you don't like it change the channel" response?

I said here, and in another thread, that I liked him. But TONIGHT'S show - the only one I've ever heard - was NOT overwhelming. I expected to be pumping my fist in the air and going WHOO-HOO because of everything I'd read here. That didn't happen.

If I did NOT know from everybody here that tonight was not a typical show, I would never tune back in. I'm sure a lot of listeners who do NOT visit DU (and I guess that's about 99.9% of his new audience) will not tune in again. I'm not slamming him, I'm simply saying that for a first show with a big, new audience, he wasn't all that.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:20 AM
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42. actually I listened to all the programs on Air America today..
except for parts of Randi Rhodes and the Majority Report, guess what...Mike's show was the best of all that I heard. This doesn't mean I disapprove of Ed, just that Mike gave them the best show on the air today!

If you're not a new listener..naturally you got a little restless, Mike had to reintroduce himself to a new audience and then explain how his show works. You and I have already heard this, but think of the thousands who haven't! Mike did what any successful radio host should do, sell himself on the first night. This was the main reason I didn't call, because for Mike to succeed he must start a new relationship with the Air America regulars.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:23 AM
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43. you're missing my point...
I *AM* a new listener. Tonight was the first time I've ever heard him, and if I didn't know so many people who loved him, I wouldn't tune back in.

I feel he missed an opportunity to wow me with the vigor and humor and vehemence and passion that everybody here talks about. My reaction was "meh! He's ok."

I know from listening to everybody here that tonight was not typical - but he did NOT gain a huge new audience with tonight's show.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:39 AM
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45. The audience Mike had tonight was much larger than that time last week
at first I didn't have a clue I was hearing a rerun. Then I picked up the phone...just before I dialed the number Rhodes announces that Kerry had given such a great speech today. But today was last Friday....

Now people will listen to something more interesting than old news and one-way talk radio, and who can blame them? :thumbsup:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:54 AM
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47. sorry
I have no idea what that means.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:08 AM
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48. very simple..
Mike is filling an empty time-slot once used for rebroadcasting shows recorded earlier in the day. Want to call in and voice your opinion?, sorry..this was just a rerun being played at night. But now you can call, and not for just one hour, but during every hour from 10-1.

Let me be clear, I don't care if you love Mike or hate him...but the fact that you even listened to him indicates he did his job well.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:12 AM
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49. I give up
you clearly haven't read a single word I've written. You only see somebody who YOU THINK doesn't like Malloy and reflexively defend him. Good night.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:26 AM
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50. a dare with the devil...
If you don't like the way Malloy runs his program, call in tommorrow..give your real name so we can hear what you are talking about on the air.

Then I will call in..give my name, and acknowledge defeat. Willing to take a chance?

I have read every word you have posted, and responded. But why do I have the feeling you have not read what I have posted?:eyes:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:29 AM
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51. because you've shown
no recognition whatsoever of the points I'm trying to make. I don't hate Malloy - in fact I said I LIKED him. I just said that his show tonight didn't reflect the things I'd heard about him here, and in fact, most of his regular fans admit the same thing.

I also think you're not reading closely because after saying 2 or 3 times that it was my first time listening, you seemed to state that I was a regular listener.

You may have read the words, but they haven't sunk in. I'm not attacking Malloy. I'm not saying he was bad. I'm saying that people who listened to him for the very first time TONIGHT had little reason to be impressed.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:44 AM
Response to Reply #51
54. glad you don't hate him..
I was somewhat confused initially..you seemed to know about Mike, and yet had not heard his show before.

Mike isn't the star of his radio program, the caller is! Mike just introduces the show and talks with the callers, but we are the guests on the Mike Malloy program. Callers decide what the topics are, and they establish what the listeners hear on the program.

Mike wasn't trying to impress us, he was letting as many callers as possible have a chance to impress the listeners. In essence...Mike runs his show like a democracy.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:23 AM
Response to Reply #54
55. well I don't know how you got the impression
that I had heard him before because I said very clearly that I hadn't. I suspect you were preparing your response to a perceived malloy-hater while skimming my posts.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:40 AM
Response to Reply #55
56. did I offend you?
damnable truth-seeker! you insane listener, you rabid voice in the night...;)
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:04 AM
Response to Reply #56
58. You Didn't Read a Damned Thing that Dookus Wrote!!
He didn't have anything bad to say about Malloy!

Apparently, I was not the only person who heard him for the first time tonight, thought he was okay, and didn't get what all the excitement was over. Maybe tonight was a bad show, or maybe he's planning to be low-key on his new show.

From what I heard tonight, his show is "will listen if I'm near a radio and remember," but definitely not a "must hear."
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:16 AM
Response to Reply #58
59. Thanks REP
that's EXACTLY what I was saying. He was good. He has a good voice. I certainly agreed with what he had to say. No complaints on his politics...

But it certainly wasn't "must-hear" radio.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:17 AM
Response to Reply #56
60. you offended me only in your
absolute refusal to read what I wrote.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #60
108. sorry for offending you...
I apoligize for refusing to read what you have wrote. :eyes:
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:40 AM
Response to Reply #43
64. Have you ever gone to White Rose and listened
to Malloy's archive there.

I wish you would, before you close the door on
Malloy completely.

Trust us. When he's on, he's fantastic.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:54 AM
Response to Reply #64
67. kaity...
how on earth could you come the conclusion that I was "about to close the door" on Malloy?

Jesus fucking christ, will you ALL stop to read a post before you start composing the reply?
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #67
92. I read the post, I thin it was the other one about Ward
saying sorry no dice with Malloy.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood.


So, have you been to White Rose or not?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #92
98. then you didn't read the other thread
I said nothing of the sort.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #98
99. Whatever.

I did read the thread, and it did say you preferred
Ward to Malloy.

What a waste of my time. I apologized and you didn't
even acknowledge it.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #99
102. gee... I accept your apology
it feels so heartfelt.

In the other thread, I said:

I thought Malloy was good.
I will listen to him again.

What more do you want? I have to say he was the best thing I've ever heard in my whole fucking life? Well sorry, that's not true. I'm annoyed that you're the 99th person in these threads to jump to a conclusion that is illogical.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #102
103. Gee, you're being a little bit defensive, aren't you?

You're the one with your panties in a wad yelling
at me.

Being snarky and sarcastic and all.

I think YOU'RE the one with a problem.
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Brian Morans Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #41
116. Your expectations are high from reading all the posts here...
the average listener (not a DUer) would not have been expecting as much.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #40
91. I love Malloy, although
I did not hear his new show. I guess I'm unlikely to. It's bedtime. But many callers NEED to be cut off. Most of them are not articulate enough, not knowledgeable enough, and are boring. Very few callers can help carry the show if the host allows them to take over. That said, if Malloy is half as good as he was on his old show, he will be awesome. I can remember times on his old show that he made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
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Brian Morans Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #40
115. His callers tend to be better informed and funnier
than any Al or Randi get, too.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:48 AM
Response to Original message
31. Oh please. Why is this a competition? There's a lot of good talent
and you are free to choose your favorite. Geez.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. However, for those of us in the "know" Malloy is the best of the best...
As you WILL hear.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #31
35. Nits?
Seems that we are calculating the nits on the head of a hamster, as it were.

Nits or no, there is very little liberal radio space available and the more the merrier.

Geeze.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:23 AM
Response to Original message
37. Take two of these and call me in the morning ...
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 01:30 AM
Response to Original message
39. You're right. He wasn't at his best. But I know Mike.
And it only gets better from here.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 02:50 AM
Response to Original message
46. Ever Do A Talk Show???
Try sitting in an empty room and talk to yourself for an hour. Do your own monologue...record it and play it back. Look at how slow the clock moves as you look for more things to say. Even if you're doing a talk show...what do you do when no one calls in (and that happens alot).

This is a new arrangement for Malloy...new station, new studio (equipment), new producer, new city and more. Plus he's been off the air for at least 6 months and hadn't been on able to reach as large an audience since his WSB days.

Do you ask for a guy just traded to your team to hit a home-run the first time he comes to the plate? You hope he is comfortable with the team and then become a part of a bigger attack.

Comparing Malloy with Ward is unfair as they are in different parts of the country, speak to different audiences and have different styles. I enjoy them both...as well as many others. If there's anyone I'd say I'm disappointed with it's been Franken and Rhodes as their on-air personalities can be iritating at times. It's all personal preference. Plus I'm hearing a lot more voices starting to pop up...and the more the merrier.

The last thing we need to is slam the few voices of reason that are out there as they offer us a chance to vent our feelings and counter the overwhelming number of hate radio spinners and liars out there.

Give Mike a few days to start feeling his oats here...as he can focus more on the content of the show and not all the other things that go on around the network and studio. A first couple shows are nightmares...but Mike's a survivor and a professional and it's great to have his voice out there as we go into these critical last 100 days.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:55 AM
Response to Original message
57. 1st show + just had a baby fer christ sake!

Give me a friggen break!

He's been off the air for almost 6 months, he went right to phone calls and kept it up pretty much the whole night.

I thought it was a great way to hit the air again.

Within 60 minutes of his show debuting he had correspondents signed up in at least half a dozen cities across the nation.

As for the caller you are complaining about, Malloy doesn’t take shit off anyone, stay tuned and you will see (or hear).

Malloy is the real deal!


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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #57
61. Instead of getting angry
why not take a minute or two and think about how somebody who has NEVER heard him before might have viewed tonight's show. Then spend another minute or two and ponder how somebody who had never heard his show AND was told a thousand times that he was the be-all and end-all of liberal talk radio might've viewed tonight's show.

Seriously... I mean it. I'm really tired of the knee-jerk answers in this thread. Stop and think!

I have never heard Mike Malloy in my life before tonight. I read hundreds of threads about how awesome he was. I tuned in. He was good. He wasn't better than Randi Rhodes. He wasn't better than Bernie Ward. He wasn't better than a lot of other people I listen to. He was good - I'm not saying he sucked. But there was NOTHING that grabbed me tonight. TONIGHT!! Read that word again.

I don't have your experience with him... I only have TONIGHT. Now instead of composing your reply in your head while you read this, stop and think.... TONIGHT. If a person had ONLY tonight's show to judge, is it really unreasonable that people might be less-than-blown-away?
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:43 AM
Response to Reply #61
65. "tonight"

First off I'm not angry, that was just what might be called a strong response.

And your comments pretty much back up my point. Its his first 'night' back.

You're right, there have been lots of threads and talk about Malloy.. A lot of people liked his show and missed him.

So Malloy pretty much spent all of his first show taking calls (many from longtime listeners) so that’s where we agree, so you really havent heard a 'real' Malloy show yet.

That does not mean he was "uninformed and unprepared" ... he just spent the first show letting all his fans call in and talk. I thought it showed class and was great.

Listen tomorrow and the next day when he gets the show rolling, trust me you will hear that this guy rocks.

That was pretty much my point.. Give it a break, its just the first show.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:50 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. You give it a break
I'm not defending the original poster's assertions. I never said he was "uninformed and unprepared" and if you'll look above, I very clearly said I disagreed with that judgment. Again, like too many people here, you fail to read my words and simply start preparing a rebuttal without actually seeing what I have to say.

It's a flaw not only of Malloy fans, but of way too many people here.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:11 AM
Response to Reply #66
68. "simply start preparing a rebuttal without actually seeing what I have to
you said:

"simply start preparing a rebuttal without actually seeing what I have to say."

That’s exactly my point about people judging Malloy on his one first show.

On behalf of all the 'flawed' Malloy fans here, I invite you to listen to his show again and see what he is like.



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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:34 AM
Response to Reply #68
71. Your invitation is redundant and unnecessary
If you'd read anything I said you'd know I already plan to listen to him again. Why must you and others feel compelled to defend Malloy at ALL costs against ANY questioning?

I said I liked him. I said I'll listen to him again. I said I expect to come to love him. What more do you want?

You have yet again proved my point that you compose your response in your head before you even finish reading my posts.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #71
74. "redundant and unnecessary"

Somehow in all this back and forth I managed to miss the part where you said... in your words "I expect to come to love him"

It was probably because I was .. "composing the response in my head before responding"

Thanks for the alert.

I apologize.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #74
75. you picked out one phrase...
I honestly don't know if I said it in this thread or the ONLY other thread even partially critical of Malloy, but I never once said anything derogatory about him. And yet you, and many others, feel that treating me like a troll is the right response.


You're wrong. I said I like Malloy. I said I'll listen to him again. I expect I will like him. But jesus fucking christ, have a little common sense, decency and reading aptitude. I'm really tired of being attacked in these Malloy threads by people who can't take a fucking MINUTE to read my short and simple posts.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. So you refuse my invitation and then the apology too??

Look, all I said was I didn't see those words in anything you said to me, if you said that somewhere else and thought it was me... then that’s ok too.

I also offered an invite and you rejected it in the title of your reply saying it was "redundant and unnecessary"

Then after that, I offer an apology and you reject that too.

Get a life bro


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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #77
80. oh cripes... how sad
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 07:28 AM by Dookus
you're picking a fight where none exists. You wanna argue with someone who doesn't disagree with you. How fucking sad is that?

Why not take a few minutes out of your precious masturbation time to actually READ what you're responding to? I swear, I'm about to turn off Malloy forever based on the crazy ignorance of his followers. You're not all Dean people are you?
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #80
82. "picking a fight" ??

Yeah, you got me.

I'm picking a fight by passing out invitations and apologies.

Good grief.

After 5 plus posts of your non-response responses.. Pppppppsssst. Whatever.


You will not like Malloy, he's a Dem who fights back.


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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #82
83. and I can only assume you are illiterate
because I have stated the very opposite many times.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #83
85. Pathetic

Nothing but personal insults in your titles.

No Reponses, only insults.



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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #85
86. what you call insults
I call good advice. Learn to read. Once you read what I have to say, then you can reasonably respond. Until you show that you can actually comprehend my short, simple sentences, I will have to assume you are incapable of comprehending English.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:01 AM
Response to Reply #86
87. Thank you Sir, can I have another??

I comprehend your short sentences very well now.

Thank you for the lesson.


BTW- what you originally said is completely full of it.


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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #87
88. Perhaps
because what I originally said is Mike Malloy was good. Mike Mally was talented. I have high hopes for Mike Malloy. I believe Mike Malloy will eventually make me very happy. Mike Malloy will meet all my expectations.

THAT'S what I said. But you didn't read that. So if you insist I'm wrong, then I can only presume you're saying Mike Malloy sucks, Mike Malloy will disappoint me, Mike Malloy will do nothing but let me down.

Learn to read.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #88
89. Perhaps??

You have personally insulted me on this board. You have not responsed to anything in my posts.

Practice what you preach... 'read' the posts my friend


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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #89
90. LOL
perhaps you should read at least one or two of my posts. You're determined to pick a fight where none exists, and I won't play along. I'm just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you're overly tired. Tomorrow you can read this thread again and PM me with your apology.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:18 AM
Response to Reply #57
69. No, HE Didn't "Just" Have a Baby - His WIFE Did
Jon Stewart's wife had a baby four weeks ago, and he hasn't missed a step. The 'just had a baaaaaaaaaaybeeeeeeee' thing is about the lamest excuse I've heard. If he had a bad night, he had a bad night. Happens to everyone. A shame he had it his first night on a new network with a bunch of new listeners who were expecting something a lot more hard-hitting.

Nice guy. I agree with him. Maybe I'll remember to listen again, but after hearing his show for the first time ever, I heard nothing that will stick with me and make me want to listen again.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #69
72. You said HE not me

I never said "HE" had a baby anywhere in my title or post.

And 'He' didn’t have a bad night either.

Malloy has been in radio for 30 years, he just had his debut on AAR with nothing but call after call from his listeners.

And because of that people here are complaining that he is "uninformed and unprepared" ???

It was just the first show, Malloy will be rocking and rolling before you know it.


BTW .. I like Jon Stewart, but he did miss over a week last month when he had a child.



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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:37 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. to be fair
Malloy did NOT use that as an excuse. Only some of his admirers here on DU did.

But I agree with you entirely that it's a lame excuse, and if the baby is interfering with his job, he should either not take the job or make arrangements for the baby not to be in the studio during the three hours a night he works.

I don't even happen to think he had a bad night. I think he did OK. But he didn't attract any new listeners.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #73
94. this solves everything!!!
"I don't even happen to think he had a bad night. I think he did OK. But he didn't attract any new listeners."


But I thought you were a new listener....ohhh, but you didn't hear his program, you just don't hate mike. I'm sorry if you have problem with Molly, but please...remember that depression is just repressed anger.

I must have forgotten what you are trying to tell us in all of the fuzzy details of your posts. Juat one more time...what the hell is your point?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. Hopefully today you're sober...
I made my point a hundred times - I listened to Malloy. All three hours. It was my first time hearing him. I liked him. However, if I knew nothing else about him, and I only had tonight's show to go by, I wouldn't tune in again. It was rather boring. He seemed capable, but I heard no real passion or anything particularly funny.

How much simpler can I make it?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #97
106. how logical...
he seemed rather boring, seemed capable, no passion or anything funny, first time hearing him, knew nothing else, and might tune in again.

all very fascinating points...thankyou! :yourock:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #97
107. Are you serious?
Do you know how many shows would fail with your attitude? You ever go back and watch the first show of any successful sitcom. They're always awkward because they're new. That's the way it is. Why? Nervousness, new surroundings, etc. It's very normal for a first show to have rough going. Same goes with anything... A restaurant for instance. The first day it's open for business ya ain't gonna get perfect service because everyones new at working together. Par for the course.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #73
122. I Understand *Malloy* Isn't Using the Ultra-Lame Baaaaaybeeee Excuse
And you're absolutely right as well - if the baby is a problem, he needs to make other arrangements for the kid or quit the show.

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:35 AM
Response to Original message
81. Hi Dookus!

Are you having fun yet? :)

Don't worry, it's not you - your posts are pretty concise and to the point.

You had not heard him before, based on DU you expected a real barn-burner of a show, you were somewhat dissapointed that it didn't happen, you thought he was just OK, he'll probably get much better, and you'll probably learn to like him quite a lot predicated on what DU folks have said.

Do I get an "A" for reading comprehension?? :)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #81
84. oh thank jeebus...
I thought it was just me.

Yes, you pegged it. Thank you very much for not being an illiterate asshole. You have restored my faith that at least ONE person on this board can read and comprehend.

Thank you dancingbear.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
95. I liked his "welcome to my world" approach
As a Malloy newbie of sorts (I listened to his last three or four IE radio shows), I felt at ease and was glad that he didn't bombard me with a buch of Howard Stern-esque "inside" jokes. And aside from the baby, he was also dealing with AAR logistics for the first time.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
104. Can we just accept he wasn't at his best, but he rocks and will rock
... there's no big deal in saying the show was a little sluggish and he was a little rusty last night. Why? Becuase he said so himself! :)

Give it one week, and it will be blowing the doors off... just listen to some of his old shows for that.
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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
105. As a first time listener to Mike Malloy last night...........
I thought that he was wonderful and I can now be proudly counted among those who are firmly in the Mike Malloy fan club; he's a welcome change from being yelled at for four hours a day about how great and intelligent a host one is, or from the Oy, Oy, Oy show, or "I have an opinion on everything, especially things I know nothing about because I can" attitude of the morning shows.

Malloy at 50% (as everyone seems to agree he was at last night) is still better than every other host in the lineup (though for entertainment value nothing beats The Majority Report), and I am thankful that AA pulled the trigger and brought him into the fold....he can only make the network better.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:15 PM
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111. As a first time listener, too, I got bored. It seemed like there were
Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 05:17 PM by kittykitty
too many commercials, and I gave up. I'll try again another day.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 05:23 PM
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113. Thank god for commercials. Without them there will be no AAR!
I do understand how disgusted you got with commercials. I do to. I get the same feeling when I'm watching a movie on TV...swear at the TV all the time. I have to continually remind myself that it's the commercials that make it possible for me to see or hear this stuff!

Remember when AAR first cam on, they had almost NO commercials, and it was really iffy that they would survive.

I hate them too, but smile and tune them out if you have to.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:34 PM
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117. Give him a break! Al Franken got bashed his first show! Mike has
been out 4 months and he has a new baby. I really like him.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 06:37 PM
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118. As a listener
of Malloy since the late '80's when he was with WSB Radio in Atlanta, I must disagree wholeheartedly with malatesta1137's assessment of Mike Malloy.

We are very lucky to have Mike back on the airwaves before the election. Please give him a chance before passing judgement on his show.

Mike kicks @$$ and takes names.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:24 PM
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119. all right
I am litening to him right now again, let's see how he fairs. I am so far enjoying him better than last night.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:27 PM
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120. Sounds pretty decent tonight, so far
Gotta agree that Monday was shakey -- lots of extra mic noise, problems with the phones, sort of a "welcome back Kotter" motif -- but he's quickly returning to his usual cantankerous self.
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