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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:32 PM
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John Kerry,Iran-Contra and those TREACHEROUS REPUKES!
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 05:33 PM by Dancing_Dave
John Kerry has taken on treacherous neo-cons before. He broke the Iran-Contra scandal:
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/flame/messages/3400.html

But in the latest post-9/11 round of neo-con attrocities, Kerry hasn't spoken up so courageously and intelligently as Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia. The inquiring mind of John Kerry must have been doing some of his own research into the hidden history of these treacherous times. Why doesn't he find a way to share enough with us, to ralley people together to fight the oppressive power, like Michael Moore? Or either President Roosevelt.;-)

He needs to open up and communicate with more people. His followers who go around taking away peoples peace signs at the Democratic Convention really aren't doing him a favor. It makes his seem like he's in a little bubble like President Bush. How unjust to him and all of us.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:45 PM
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1. Wow...another helpful post.
Dancing Dave.

Horowitz.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:56 PM
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2. Well, thank you!
With all due respect to copyright laws, that piece about John Kerry and Iran-Contra originally was published in SALON:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2004/07/22/kerry/index_np.html

Subscribe to Salon and you help Sidney Blumenthal write more great pieces for us!:)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 06:42 PM
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3. However the snide commentary dumping on Kerry was all yours.
And obviously comes from someone who has no appreciation of John Kerry as the one man who investigated and exposed more government corruption than any lawmaker in modern history.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 06:54 PM
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4. He hasn't done so well as he did with a Democratic majority in congress.
Naturally, Republicans wouldn't act on what he found.

He does have some communications problems, though. In the Midwest where I live, a lot of people think he's kind of snobbish and insular. That's not my idea, and I don't think it's quite fair. He does have a communication problem to overcome so people feel more in touch with him, maybe John Edwards can help him.

It also suggests that we better give him a Democratic Senate to work with!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 07:37 PM
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7. Ain't buyin'...
the lines have no value.

I spent 24 years growing up in Ohio. Kerry's doing better in the Midwest than most Dems, he's way up in Ohio already and will win it in Nov.

I know Horowitz's legacy when I see it.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 08:08 PM
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9. Right now I'm in Kansas
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 09:01 PM by Dancing_Dave
Kansas almost always goes Republican in the Presidential races. But people are really getting suspicious and disappointed about Bush. But not many have warmed to Kerry yet, they feel like they can't quite figure him out. Lots and lots of folks tell me they don't like either canidate much.

Peoples rising distrust of the Bush Administration has created a rare opportunity for Democrats in Kansas...but so far Kerry hasn't been able to make anything of it.

It sounds silly, but I bet Michael Moore would beat Bush in Kansas!
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 07:05 PM
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5. Robert Byrd's Witty Advice to John Kerry:Get coaldust on your face
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 07:05 PM by Dancing_Dave
Robert Byrd tell John Kerry how he can win in West Virginia--and Robert Byrd oughta know!

WASHINGTON - John Kerry can win West Virginia’s five electoral votes by going there and getting coal “dust on his hands and on his face,” the state’s senior senator said Sunday.

Also, said Sen. Robert Byrd, history’s second longest-serving senator behind the late Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, “Always, always remember that sovereignty rests, John Kerry, sovereignty rests with the people of this country.”

Appearing on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Byrd was asked whether Kerry can win West Virginia, a state Democrat Al Gore lost to Republican George W. Bush by 6 percentage points in 2000.

“I’m the son of a coal miner. I married a coal miner’s daughter. I know a lot about coal,” said the 86-year-old Byrd, whose Senate career began in 1959, the year before John F. Kennedy’s evocation of the plight of the West Virginia coal miner helped him win the presidency.

“Yes, coal is a dirty energy source, but look what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to clean it up. I’ve appropriated money over the years for coal research to make it cleaner,” Byrd said.

“Yes, he can carry West Virginia. He will carry West Virginia if he continues to stand up for the liberties of the people,” Byrd said.

Read more of this fun populist article!
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5461322/
:)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 07:32 PM
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6. Too bad Byrd didn't help Kerry expose BCCI and IranContra or the illegal
wars in Central America when he had the chance.

Or support Kerry when he testified for gays to serve openly in the military.

Have fun trying to get people to hate Kerry as much as you do. Some of us are well aware of his worth and his historic place in our lives.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 08:55 PM
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10. I don't hate Kerry at all
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 08:59 PM by Dancing_Dave
I just think that so far he hasn't run an especially effective campaign. He hasn't convinced most of the people who live near me, and even all the bright college students in my town, who are becoming quite an activist generation, are not especially excited by Kerry.

I won't defend where Robert Byrd started out in politics, but he was the only Senator to eloquently tear apart all the Bush Administration's lies about Iraq from the very start (Kennedy did pretty well too). The only Senator to fearlessly state his reservations about the Patriot Act and the new Department of Homeland Security. The experienced old hand who warned his colleages about the dangers of arrogance and self delusion. He said "This house of cards, based on deceit, will fall."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 07:40 PM
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8. Kerry's done more than talk. He went after the BFEE.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 08:57 PM
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11. Yes that was Great!
And he should be telling people about what he did right now! There are so many Americans who fear that even more dangerous corruption is happening right now. BUT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HE'S ON THEIR SIDE ABOUT THIS!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:31 PM
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12. Kerry brought up BCCI early in the primaries...
... and more. It's Corporate McPravda who won't do their jobs and talk about it. Since Kerry can't make the presstitutes do their job, he has to wait to the right moment to lay the wood down. The opportunity may be nigh or we may have to wait to a debate. No matter, we on DU can help get the word out about Poppy and the rest of the BFEE horde.

BTW: Does the name Celerino Castillo ring a bell for you? It does for John Kerry.

WRITTEN STATEMENT OF CELERINO CASTILLO III., (D.E.A. RETIRED) FOR THE HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE

April 27, 1998

EXCERPT...

When the Boland Amendment(s) cut the Contras off from a continued U.S. government subsidy, George Bush, his national security adviser Don Gregg, and Ollie North, turned to certain foreign governments, and to private contributions, to replace government dollars. Criminal sources of contributions were not excluded. By the end of 1981, through a series of Executive Orders and National Security Decision Directives, many of which have been declassified, Vice President Bush was placed in charge of all Reagan administration intelligence operations. All of the covert operations carried out by officers of the CIA, the Pentagon, and every other federal agency, along with a rogue army of former intelligence operatives and foreign agents, were commanded by George Bush. Gary Webb (San Jose Mercury News) acknowledged, that he simply had not traced the command structure over the Contras up into the White House, although he had gotten some indications that the operation was not just CIA.

On Dec. 01, 1981, President Ronald Reagan signed a secret order authorizing the CIA to spend $19.9 million for covert military aid to the recently formed Contras--- hardly enough money to launch a serious military operation against the Cuban and Soviet-backed Sandinista regime.

In August 1982, George Bush hired Donald P. Gregg as his principal adviser for national security affairs. In late 1984, Gregg introduced Oliver North to Felix Rodriguez, (a retired CIA agent) who had already been working in Central America for over a year under Bush's direction. Gregg personally introduced Rodriguez to Bush on Jan. 22, 1985. Two days after his January 1985 meeting, Rodriguez went to El Salvador and made arrangements to set up his base of operations at Ilopango air base. On Nov. 01, 1984, the FBI arrested Rodriguez's partner, Gerard Latchinian and convicted him of smuggling $10.3 million in cocaine into the U.S.

On Jan. 18, 1985, Rodriguez allegedly met with money-launderer Ramon Milan-Rodriguez, who had moved $1.5 billion for the Medellin cartel. Milan testified before a Senate Investigation on the Contras' drug smuggling, that before this 1985 meeting, he had granted Felix Rodriguez's request and given $10 million from the cocaine for the Contras.

CONTINUED...

http://www.american-buddha.com/cia.writ.state.htm
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