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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:43 PM
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Bush actually said this today... Iraq is now "a sovereign nation".
In celebrating success in Iraq, Bush today pointed out that Iraq was now "a sovereign nation".

He didn't say they weren't sovereign before, but the context was clearly stating that Iraq's sovereignity was a positive result of the invasion. Something like "And now, Iraq is a free nation, a sovereign nation..."

Um, George, they were before. That's the problem. In fact, they're LESS of a sovereign nation now (being our puppet and all, with 140,000 of our troops crawling all over the place).

I heard this on NPR. Anyone have the link?
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:47 PM
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1. So you admit he was right
A dipshit, but right.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:47 PM
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2. Like Puerto Rico is a sovereign nation.
Meaning we can bomb at will.
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:48 PM
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3. Yeah, it's kind of like the teenager who kills his parents and then asks
the judge for mercy because he's an orphan.
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AngryLizard Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:55 PM
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4. Well, if it's a sovereign nation
Then it's one in which our soldiers are still getting killed - by memebers of this sovereign nation - every single day.

All this pretense, just it looks good enough for election day over here. Can't stand these people.

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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:52 PM
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9. true ... it's a sovereign nation that is killing our soldiers
so maybe we should invade them ... um ... oh yeah
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:38 PM
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5. Do a sovereign nations have large occupational armies?
Just wondering.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:47 PM
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6. The Bigger the lie...
Full Sovereignty?

"Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials.


Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements."



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html

It is a pure sham, a US Puppet Govt. Most Americans may be fooled into the false notion that Iraq now has "full sovereignty" but the Iraqis sure a Hell won't be. They damn well know Colonialism when the experience it. Over 30 years of British Colonialism hasn't been forgotten.

The "new" Govt. will fail and it may not even get to the phony elections of Jan.'05. I predict a Mass Uprising against the Occupation, which remains, in mid July. A Civil War in Iraq may not arise as many predict. Perhaps the various factions will hammer out compromises without bloodshed. The excuse of the US Occupation of staying to prevent a Civil War is most likely another ploy to keep 14 Military bases with 100 K US Troops in Iraq to protect the US and other country's Multi-Corps that are entrenching in Iraq. It's not all about the oil.



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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:49 PM
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7. Iraq is once again a Sovereign Nation for the first
time since before the US invasion. That is what he should say.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:50 PM
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8. You can try searching at
http://www.npr.org/

but he's said Iraq is sovereign before; it's not a big surprise.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:52 PM
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10. Yeah, and Shrub is a genius too!
:eyes:
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