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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:56 PM
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Anyone else think Ed Smart (Elizabeth's Dad) is a jackass?
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 02:00 PM by phillybri
Let me qualify this by saying I feel for the guy having to go through what his family did...

That being said, when news broke of this pregnant woman disappearing in Utah, were my wife and I the only ones saying "How long until Ed Smart is in front of a camera?"

Sure enough! There he was on "Today" this morning!!!

Movie deal, book deal, interview w/ Katie the whore, what's next?

How about working to bring your family back together???
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:58 PM
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1.  he sort of reminds me of John Walsh
or maybe Fred Goldman ... but I'm an insensitive jackass for the most part
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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:00 PM
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22. At least Walsh used his 'celebrity' to do some good.......
in the world, as I don't expect Mr. Smart to do.

I too am an insensitive jackass.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 01:59 PM
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2. what's next? political office - just wait
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:12 PM
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37. isn't he related to Utah politician senator or governor?
look what Ramsey's are doing ...running for congress or senator in Michigan...ya gotta love those family values rethugs :puke:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:03 PM
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3. I look at him and think he's got a few screws loose...
...he looks like a pervert.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:05 PM
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4. my spidey senses tell me the same...
there's something not quite right here. but hell if I'm going to spend time on it, there's more important things to think about.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:21 PM
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8. I get the same feeling
it's like he's hiding something. I bet some day we find out his deep dark secret.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:19 PM
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24. Yea, like insects, I mean incest.
and maybe Elizabeth wanted to escape.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:52 PM
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28. I didn't say it, you did
but uh, ............. yeah. ;-)
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:09 PM
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35. Yep, add my vote to the talley
He makes my skin crawl.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:22 PM
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9. Like a Stepford Dad maybe........
.....I don't want to bash any religions, but I think Elizabeth stayed with her captors for so long because of the way Dad and Mom raised her--her incarceration probably seemed fairly normal to her.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:06 PM
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5. He does seem to have never met a camera he doesn't like
But he's not as much of an ass as JonBenet's father. Who is now running for office as a repuke.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:16 PM
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6. Hey, leave him alone.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 02:16 PM by trotsky
He & his wife are two of probably 12 Mormon Democrats in the world.

;-)
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:31 PM
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12. He's a Democrat?
I would've thought he's a Repub. But then again, maybe I'm just stereotyping.

That's cool if true. Still, I don't think it's really relevant to his daughter's traumatic experience (I was following it intensely when they found her - I was stunned and happy for them and I felt for what they went through). Or relevant to the question of whether or not he's an ass.

And also, I'm not really sure I totally agree that he's an ass for willing to sell the movie and book rights. I mean, I might if my family were comfortable with it. We don't know that his family isn't comfortable with it. Not only do they get money, which is such little compensation for what they went through, but they can share the story with the world. Many people are interested. I dunno. I just don't think it makes him a jackass automatically. He could be, but I don't know him personally or know how his family feels about selling the rights and so I don't think I have the right to judge.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:37 PM
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13. Dem or not: He's a publicity hound...
n/t
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:39 PM
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15. I think he admitted to the media that he is a Republican...
that was around the time he and his daughter were invited to the White House to sign that amber alert legislation. I'll look for a link.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:51 PM
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19. Well, I can't find a link
but I remember this specifically because my Dad told me he was upset at Ed Smart saying that he expected the Bush Administration to take special action in finding his daughter and passing the amber alert legislation because he is a Republican.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:57 PM
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21. Yeah I can't find a link either.
But I swear I read somewhere that he said he was a Democrat.

If either of us finds something, let's make sure we post it!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:06 PM
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23. He's a republican.
I used to work for a close friend of his (who is also a republican).

Anybody who uses a tragedy--especially one involving their own child--as a springboard for publicity is beneath contempt.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:25 PM
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45. kinda like the Ramsey dad using his daughter's death as "springboard"....
into politics...he's running for some political office in Michigan
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:20 PM
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44. he is NOT a democrat...i heard it from the horses mouth " republican"
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:19 PM
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7. That whole fam damly gives me the willies...plasticccccc
Talk about Stepford, the whole neighborhood is America run amok.

I've never had such an emotional whiplash as that case wrought.

What a bizarre, forgettable episode.

I went from deep concern to deep disgust, overnight.
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:25 PM
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10. I agree...
I saw him on GMA this morning and thought the very same. I always wondered why the disappearence of his daughter warranted so much media coverage when there are tons of kids that go missing everyday.
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Marvelous_Smarty Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:48 PM
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17. Because those tons of kids are not worthy of concern...
by the media since not enough people care to make a dent in the ratings. Look at the crime stories that make National News.

Laci Peterson. She was wealthy and beautiful and had for the most part a good looking husband. Hell they even had a cute dog. I'm sure if her name was Emma Lou and her husband Bub was accused of killing her in her trailer house, we would never have heard about it.

If the Smart girl's name had been Golanda and her family lived in in public housing we never would have known.

These stories would not have been sexy enough.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:26 PM
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11. He disgusts me period.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:38 PM
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14. Just like Pauli Klass's father
Who got that fucking Three Strikes Law passed. People told him it would lock up petty criminals for life but the selfish bastard didn't listen. Smart helped get the Amber Alert bill passed. The problem with this bill is, today it's for missing children, tommorrow it's for everything. Totally tinfoil. I'm tired of crisis goverment. Passing laws that trample civil rights, privacy rights, create draconian sentencing or place spy equipment all over the country shouldn't be voted on in haste. Especially now since the Rethugs are installing Nazi judges. The Laci Peterson ACT was a pro-life scheme. I heard Mary Landruie slammed her office door in Laci's mom's face. I don't know if that's true but I sure hope it is. Enough is enough.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:46 PM
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16. Landrieu is a pro-lifer, isn't she?
:shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:49 PM
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18. Yeah that's why I don't know if it's true or not.
The Laci Peterson ACT could send pregnant women to use drugs to federal prison. Maybe she was mad about that.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:51 PM
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20. A pro-lifer disliking pro-life publicity hounds is like...
. . . a Christian disliking Jerry Falwell. Assholes are assholes, even when they disagree with me.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:29 PM
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26. I know
Laci's mom is especially disgusting. I wonder how much money she's making off her daughters death. The GOP owes her big time.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:33 PM
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27. I don't think that Landrieu is anti abortion --
although she's not pro-choice either. She votes for bills that ban late term abortions but she also helped fillibuster anti-choice judges.

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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:25 PM
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25. I agree. Ed Smart cares so much for his daughter his 15minutes
of fame is going to last forever. Also, I wonder how Elizabeth is doing? Considering they said she is perfect about a week after she was found --- all is well on the homefront and my daughter will not be bothered by such things as what she went through when we must work on our wholesome image as a perfect family. GAG.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:03 PM
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32. No big deal to her that the "handyman" was schtupping her...
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 04:04 PM by BiggJawn
Daddy had been doing it for years...

My darkest, most cycnical spidey sense says Ed Smart had been boinking her for years, got nervous that she was gonna talk, paid the "handyman" to take her out in the desert and make her "disappear", only "Emmanuel" let his messiah thing get the better and figured to take hisself a young nibbly wife instead...

The whole story stinks. It stunk when it broke, it stunk every time Ed Smart was all over 24/7 "Nooze", and it stunk when they found her walking down the street with "Emmanuel" and his harem...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:57 PM
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29. met Ed in scary way
he scared the crap out of me. Two days after daughter missing was walking dog and he nearly ran me over with car shoving flyer in my face "TAKE IT"..was strange...he definitely has having some sort of breakdown poor guy.

As far as publicity thing... LDS from what I've seen boys are groomed at very early age to get up in front of people to speak. It's like you can't shut them up after awhile....think it's just cultural thing.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:16 PM
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43. There's something very phony about him, and I don't want to bash either,
nor to stereotype, but I've encountered first-hand very twisted phoniness in other LDS people who superficially seem to be the most wonderful, gentle, loving people in the world. I fell for it too and paid a big price. So now I try not to prejudge, positively or negatively.

My hypothesis is that Ed Smart is gay but that it would require turning his whole world upside down to face that, so he continues his facade.

But I feel a great deal of sympathy for him, his family, and particularly for Elizabeth. She did not ask for her fate. I hope that his being involved in other cases turns out to be helpful and nothing more.

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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:58 PM
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30. Actually, they called him! . . .
. . . they called him to come and help organize a search for the missing girl because of his experience. I don't think it's his fault this time.

TYY
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:05 PM
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33. It's his fault. He should take Nancy Reagan's advice...
"just Say NO...."
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:02 PM
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31. He needs to come out of the closet
Dude is gayer than than...I can't think of the words.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:06 PM
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34. He gives me the creeps. n/t
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:09 PM
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36. OOPS!
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 04:10 PM by Lerkfish
sorry, got confused...thought we were talking about the one that drowned her kids in the car...what was here name?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:14 PM
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38. He always gave me the creeps. nt
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:29 PM
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39. Man, you guys are brutal.
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 04:31 PM by liberalnproud
I never had that impression. He worked hard to get his daughter back even after the police gave up. The OTHER handyman who had a stroke in prison was the guy the cops fingered. This guy hired his own private detectives to follow a lead from one of their younger daughter's dreams, when the detectives in Utah told him to take a hike.

I don't know for sure what the REAL story actually is like some of the people here. I also was impressed with the way he shielded his daughter after she was returned.

Let's take the guy for his word for a minute. Would you possibly have altruistic reasons for writing a book after an experience like that. After all the guy was VERY well off in the real estate business. I am sure his business increased as a result of this incident. I would be willing to guess that everyone wanted to list their home or buy a home using his brokerage.

And Laci Peterson was not rich. Nor was her family. It is not her fault that the press have latched on to this case.

Geez guys.


On edit:

This kind of reminds me how local people here in San Diego vilified the swinging parents of the little girl who was abducted from her bed in the middle of the night and murdered by her scumbag neighbor. The poor parents were raked through the mud over their personal lives that had nothing to do with the fact that the bastard broke into their home in the middle of the night and stole their 6 year old.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:41 PM
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40. I find it hard to comment on this case
as my anti-Mormon prejudices come swimming to the surface and I really have to deal with them and put them to rest once and for all, since I don't like having prejudices......

Apologies to any LDS DUers....seriously. Had a very very bad experience as a child with LDS. Well, loads of bad experiences, really. And like I said above, I just really need to work through them. Just traveling through Utah recently was difficult. I wanted to scream a lot.

But that's enough of that.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:06 PM
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41. Ed Smart IS extremely effeminate--
I think he's got lots going on. And he kept at the search because he vehemently insisted he KNEW she was "out there".

I'll bet he did.
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wish_I_could_vote Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 06:07 PM
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42. I thought it was just me
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