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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:29 PM
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Jeneane on Crossfire on now!!! CNN
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:30 PM
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1. Woooooo hoooooo !
:bounce:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:32 PM
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2. ugh Cliff May
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:33 PM by Cush
Are you suggesting we should have left Saddam in power?

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:34 PM
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5. I would love to meet that disgusting sonofabitch in a dark alley.
:grr:
:grr:
:puke:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:38 PM
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11. What is that? Their default position on everything?
"Oh, you disagree with us, that means (insert stupid, straw man argument that no one anywhere is saying, and imply that that is what people who disagree with you think)."

What a load of bozos. We really need to smash these fascistic blowhards and completely remove them from the levers of power. A supermax prison occurs to me as the appropriate place.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:47 PM
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16. It's called Red Baiting
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:48 PM by Brian Sweat
If you don't support our position 100%, then you must support the enemy. It has long been a favorite tactic of the right.
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:18 PM
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39. It should work the other way...
Since you want to divert needed money in the war on Terror and needed military and intelligence resources to Iraq RATHER than catching 9/11 Mastermind Osama Bin Laden, you support the Taliban and Al Quaeda.

I'M SO SICK OF THESE AL QAEDA LOVERS!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:01 PM
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26. Is Cliff suggesting
that 200 dead American soldiers, and over 1000 casualties, is a Good Thing?
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:33 PM
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3. Details for us cubicle mushrooms, pretty please?
.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:00 PM
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33. mp3 here
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:10 PM
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34. CLassic Turret's Syndrome...
It's written all over his face.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:33 PM
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4. No 'crossfire minute' boo-hoo -eom-
nt
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:34 PM
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6. They're Nazi's & Fascists
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:36 PM by Cush
oh man...

Tom Andrews: We didn't go to war because he was bad, but because he was an imminent threat to the US
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:36 PM
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7. Is Janeane ever going to make jokes again?
I appreciate her activism, but she is turning into a talking head instead of a comedian.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:50 PM
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19. We need more progressive talking heads.
comedians, not so much
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:37 PM
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8. Who's the other guy from 'the left' ?
Very articulate ! Just made some great points.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:39 PM
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12. Ah - Tom Andrews ' Win Without War' -eom-
nt
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:38 PM
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9. I keep hearing Saddam and Bin Laden thrown around
from Cliff May like they are partners.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:38 PM
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10. Joe Conanson is supposed to be on today
I hope he makes it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:09 PM
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28. Tomorrow According To Salon
n/t
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:39 PM
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13. Tucker: Europe owes us
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:40 PM by Cush
for protecting them for the past 60's years

Andrews: This Admin is arrogant, we thumbed our noses at the rest of the world

Andrews: The troops are saying it was all rhetoric, we were supposed to be welcomed as liberators
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:42 PM
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14. what a fuck face
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:43 PM by Cush
Would we be safer if Osama and Saddam were still in power?

Saddam never threatened us.....

war war war war war war war war war war war war
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:47 PM
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15. Anytime Carlson or any other conservative idiot uses this straw man...
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:49 PM by Brotherjohn
... argument, the proper response would be: Would we (in the U.S.) be safer if we took over the entire world by force and ruled it with an iron fist? Yes, we probably would.

So why don't we do it?

ON EDIT:
Of course I realize that most neo-con wackos think we should do this. But most Americans don't.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:58 PM
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37. I'm suggesting we'd be better off iwth Saddam in power!
##%@~~! And, I can think of several thousand other people too.

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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:52 PM
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42. That Mother Tucker.....
I wonder if he had been bullied too much in school and just channeling his anger in the wrong place? Those cheesy bow ties don't make him any appealing either.


John
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:49 PM
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17. On this poll question
Every democrat who is in the studio audience should vote no.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:49 PM
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18. What is the question (for us cube rats)?
nt
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:51 PM
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20. Was the war in Iraq worth it?
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:52 PM
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21. Should we have gone to war with Iraq?
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 03:53 PM by diamondsoul
Whoops my bad, Was it worth it?...and what the hell does that mean anyway?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:55 PM
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22. I just seen a comercial
Bowling for Columbine came out on video today!! :toast:
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RageAgainstTheirMachine Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:56 PM
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23. she's hot
with blond hair ... hot, smart and liberal ... i'm in love
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:57 PM
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24. I never liked black nail polish
but that is just me.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 03:57 PM
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25. She's really good!
I really didn't expect her to be this good. Man, she is disarmingly honest and I think that makes Carlson uncomfortable.
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:56 PM
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35. I think Tucker has a crush on her
because when I saw them, he was being like way too nice.

I guess I would, too...especially if I was a repressed, bow-tie wearing Republican...
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:08 PM
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27. and she says to the right
you will be paying for this, yes you, father of four children, and your children will be paying for this...(war).

I am glad I caught this show today. Go Jeneane!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:10 PM
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29. Missed it Again
Is she on all week?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:11 PM
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30. yup
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:13 PM
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31. That was my favorite part
Hit him where he's vulnerable.

I honestly don't see how many of these people including Carlson can really believe the things they say - and him with four kids. They are truly prostitutes for the neo-cons. He's making a hell of a lot of money by misleading Americans about very serious issues. The media pundit types are just as guilty for this mess as the Bush Crime Family. Hopefully they'll all be exposed for the slime they are.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:16 PM
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32. Carlson seems like a likeable guy
Is the republicans Alan Colmes, he never not even once said something that got my blood boiling. I also remember that episode where Hillary gave him a chocolate shoe which was funny.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:57 PM
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36. DANG! I've gotta get cable!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:12 PM
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38. Fire Begala....
Hire Garofolo!

She's awesome.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:42 PM
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40. I think she needs to use more humor.
That's her advantage, and I don't think she is using it enough. I imagine it is very difficult to think of anything funny about what the Bushies have done to our country and the world in 2.5 short years, but if anyone can do it, Janeane Garofalo can. She should point out the ridiculousness in the Bushie approach -- a horrible ridiculousness.

Having said that, though, Janeane scored a lot of points on the pubbies today, and I continue to be amazed at her strength and intelligence. She is one of my heros.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:47 PM
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41. actually,
I'm glad she hasn't used much humor. I think she first needs to establish some real credentials as "serious" commentator. Over time, her natural sense of humor will come into it.

I hope they keep her... I think she's great.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 08:56 PM
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43. She's funniest when she is serious.
I'm not talking about jokes. That not what JG does. She's insightful and witty, not jokey. She's justifiably famous for that -- second to none -- and she should use it.

Trying to be too serious plays into the hands of the pubbies. She can lead a chorus of laughter against the pubbies, and do it with the truth. People other than the converted are not easily going to accept raw facts from JG. That's why there are web pages. There are billions of those, but only one JG.

Satire, my friend. That's what I am talking about. Voltaire, not nightclub schtick. Janeane Garofalo is too cool to waste on mere facts. She can make good people (Dem and pubbie both) see through Bushism to it's ridiculous core and the inept child-man himself.
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