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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:37 AM
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Poll question: Which Party Is More Likely To Nominate The First Woman For President?
Is America ready to accept a female president or a president of color?

-- Allen

P.S. What would the likely title be for a female president's husband? First Man? First Gentleman? First Husband? And does the vice president's wife have a title... the "Second Lady" perhaps?
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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:39 AM
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1. I think we're getting closer, but overall aren't there yet.
I would hope to see either case in my lifetime, tho.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:39 AM
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2. I voted the Republicans
because when the Democrats nominate Barack Obama, the GOP will counter with a woman.
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:43 AM
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4. I agree
the rebublicans will try to leverage a woman president before the democrats do. It won't be a good woman however, but a fundementalist freak imo. However they will try to leverage womans values with her anyway.

TearForger
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:46 AM
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7. Probably will be their sacrificial lamb in 2008
since they won't have a chance after four years of Kerry/Edwards.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:45 AM
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16. It would have to be some fundie
One of those religiously insane "Ladies Against Women" types. Before AirAmerica came on the air I used to listen to Concerned Women for America's radio show on the local fundie station to keep up with what they were up to. Those women are SCARY.

Although the one whose job it is to look at porn all day so poor, innocent kids don't have to is rather amusing to me. :)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:42 AM
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3. A woman should run for President before she is considered.....
..such as Carol Moseley Braun...Only in the heat of the fire of a national primary can we know the extent of her popularity. Just my opinion.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:50 PM
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19. That's More Than A Mere Opinion... That's EXACTLY How It Is :-)
You hit the nail squarely on the head.

A female candidate must survive the primaries to WIN the nomination... she won't just be proffered out of the blue by the party simply because someone feels that they *might* have a winner.

Having a woman at the top of the ticket won't happen simply to score political points at being the *first*... it will be because she's proven herself to be a popular candidate with a message that resonates with the voters.

I'm hoping that it's the Democratic party.

-- Allen


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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:44 AM
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5. second lady
the vice president's wife is often referred to as "Second Lady" ... as for what a female president's husband would be called, "First Gentleman" sounds pretty good to me, but obviously there is no precedent ... I'm sure that if they were Democrats, he would be called much worse things by the Republicans
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:46 AM
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6. Socialist Workers
Linda Jenness in 1972.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:47 AM
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8. Republicans will go with a Condi type at some point
Super rich super conservative woman of color.

Fortunately Condi herself is not panning out so well
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:59 AM
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9. The Republicans might try to one up the Democrats for political reasons
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:16 AM
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10. Only Nixon could go to China
Republicans can nominate a black or a woman more easily. Who was the first woman senator? Who was the firsr black senator since Reconstruction?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:43 AM
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14. 1st popularly elected black senator - Edward Brooke (R- MA)
but today's republicans NEVER MENTION him. He's an old-style republican, NOT a neo-con, RW, religious right republican.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:36 AM
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11. Remember Geraldine Ferraro
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 10:38 AM by MaRadix
The Dems have already put a woman on the ticket...and then let her go down in flames. I think that has probably provided the excuse for not having a woman so far..."we tried that already, didn't work, the country's just not ready...blah, blah, blah."

There is no excuse. Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi, Benazir Bhutto, these are women who have headed countries even more macho than the USA.

edit: Gandhi, I never spell it right the first time.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:49 AM
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17. Mondale would have gone down in flames regardless
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:31 PM
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20. True, but
as they did (nothing) with Gore, the Dems hardly put up a fuss. And I always had the sneaking suspicion that they knew they were going to lose so they put Ferraro on the ticket to say they had done it and to provide insurance against having to do it again any time soon.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:39 AM
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12. clearly the republicans
They are famous for using gender/race in a faux attempt at proving that they are not what they are. viz: condi, colin, Mikey powell, et al
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:39 AM
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13. Rep probably first party to have 'elected' woman president
Just like democratic party couldn't resume ties with communist China but Nixon could.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 10:45 AM
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15. I'd like to think that the Greens will do it. We've done Veep
several times, but still not prez candidate.

Still, if it's a choice between the big two, I hate to say it, but I think we'll get an Elizabeth Dole-type on the GOP ticket before the Dems put up a woman.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:33 PM
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21. Medea Benjamin!
That would be fun to see.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:01 AM
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18. Which party has had the most female Governors?
Seems to me the Dems have the edge here. :shrug:
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:08 PM
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22. Republicans can get Shrub (almost) elected..
so they obviously don't have the obstacle of pandering to small groups..they can buy and brainwash the masses into voting for a petrock.

Dems are held to an impossible standard -- please the wealthy AND the masses, run the gauntlet for corporate America, suffer the media abuse.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:42 PM
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23. It depends on what happens in 2004
I won't even mention the worst possible outcome in 2004, as it is worse than speaking of the dead. But if Bush is still around until 2008, I am fairly confident that things will have deteriorated to the extent that Hillary Clinton will emerge as a major figure of popularity, even among many of her former detractors. Issues of health care and education will be paramount, if we continue spending our treasury on foreign wars.
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dobak Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:50 PM
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24. I am willing to bet everything.....
that Elizabeth Dole is on the ticket for the GOP, as Prez or VP, in 2008


If Kerry loses this election, it will be Hillary vs. Elizabeth in 2008
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