I still have a memory, do you?

[Solomon]

I remember the CIA telling Bush his shit was bullshit. I remember remember remember, no matter what they say.

How is it that all of a sudden, Bush was mislead by the CIA?

I remember when the CIA complained that Cheney was leaning on them. I remember remember remember. How is it that the commission found no evidence that Bush was tainting the intelligence?

I'm sick to death of this shit. I'm tired of talking and listening. I just want to vote goddamn it. Im ready to vote right now. No more campaigning, no more bullshit, I just want to cast my vote, dammit.

[LiberalTechie1337]

1. i remember too

[luaneryder]

2. I'm ready to vote!

Just go ahead and cancel the November elections; let's do it now!! We can spare ourselves a few months of this contiual BS.

[DrWeird]

3. Remember when a pretzel almost saved countless lives?

Seems like a long time ago now.

Remember when the best thing we had going for us was when Bush made fun of Bush's Chinese clown outfit?

We've come along way, baby.

[Kipepeo]

4. From almost a year ago:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A56336-2003Jul14¬Found=true

President Defends Allegation On Iraq
Bush Says CIA's Doubts Followed Jan. 28 Address
July 15th, 2003

President Bush yesterday defended the "darn good" intelligence he receives, continuing to stand behind a disputed allegation about Iraq's nuclear ambitions as new evidence surfaced indicating the administration had early warning that the charge could be false.

Bush said the CIA's doubts about the charge -- that Iraq sought to buy "yellowcake" uranium ore in Africa -- were "subsequent" to the Jan. 28 State of the Union speech in which Bush made the allegation. Defending the broader decision to go to war with Iraq, the president said the decision was made after he gave Saddam Hussein "a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."

Bush's position was at odds with those of his own aides, who acknowledged over the weekend that the CIA raised doubts that Iraq sought to buy uranium from Niger more than four months before Bush's speech.

The president's assertion that the war began because Iraq did not admit inspectors appeared to contradict the events leading up to war this spring: Hussein had, in fact, admitted the inspectors and Bush had opposed extending their work because he did not believe them effective.

[Solomon]

10. I remember that little tidbit too. Saddam had let the inspectors back in

I also remember why he didn't want them there. Spies Spies spies.

I remember that Iraq produced the report that everyone was asking about. In their report they said they had no wmd's. I remember.

How come nobody is focusing on the fact that their report was accurate?

What we have become is sad. Terribly sad.

[democrat_patriot]

5. Who do I have to cheney

in Washington to get some freakin' justice?

I read the postings, and the news articles. And I think * is lying again.

Blinking neon lights - how can everyone not see this?

I mean Bush's records destroyed?

It's the CIA's fault?

How can 50+% of America not understand what is happening?

How can members of my own family still trot out the RNC talking points?

Is it TV? Is it me? Am I the one who is wrong?

THEY HAVE ME QUESTIONING MYSELF NOW!!! Maybe that's their plan...

[Karenina]

13. How can 50+% of America not understand what is happening?

MEDIA CONSOLIDATION. A FULLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF THE NEO-CONS.

[scarletwoman]

6. I remember too.

I remember quite clearly. I am fed up with living in "1984", I am fed up with "newspeak", with "memory holes", with the constant steam of distortions and lies, lies, lies - endless f**king LIES!

I woke up this morning and turned on the news, and there it was -- "It's all the CIA's fault!" I have been seething with outrage all day. I can't take it anymore! I want the lies to stop, and I know that they won't.

The worst of it is knowing that the bulk of the American public is happily clueless -- there's so FEW of us paying attention. So FEW of us who REMEMBER.

I'm just sickened...

sw

[Kipepeo]

9. me too

I wonder if they think we just forget things after two weeks. Like, "Oh, it's been two weeks! That's in the black hole by now. Never happened!"

We don't even need the history rewriters like in "1984." They don't even bother scrubbing out the past. They just all talk like it never happened.

[Kipepeo]

7. and this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

After the president returned to the White House on Sept. 11, he and his top advisers, including Clarke, began holding meetings about how to respond and retaliate. As Clarke writes in his book, he expected the administration to focus its military response on Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. He says he was surprised that the talk quickly turned to Iraq.

"Rumsfeld was saying that we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said to Stahl. "And we all said ... no, no. Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan. We need to bomb Afghanistan. And Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq. I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it.

"Initially, I thought when he said, 'There aren't enough targets in-- in Afghanistan,' I thought he was joking.

"I think they wanted to believe that there was a connection, but the CIA was sitting there, the FBI was sitting there, I was sitting there saying we've looked at this issue for years. For years we've looked and there's just no connection."

Clarke says he and CIA Director George Tenet told that to Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Clarke then tells Stahl of being pressured by Mr. Bush.

"The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door, and said, 'I want you to find whether Iraq did this.' Now he never said, 'Make it up.' But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said Iraq did this.

"I said, 'Mr. President. We've done this before. We have been looking at this. We looked at it with an open mind. There's no connection.'

"He came back at me and said, "Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection.' And in a very intimidating way. I mean that we should come back with that answer. We wrote a report."

Clarke continued, "It was a serious look. We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. We wrote the report. We sent the report out to CIA and found FBI and said, 'Will you sign this report?' They all cleared the report. And we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the National Security Advisor or Deputy. It got bounced and sent back saying, 'Wrong answer. ... Do it again.'

"I have no idea, to this day, if the president saw it, because after we did it again, it came to the same conclusion. And frankly, I don't think the people around the president show him memos like that. I don't think he sees memos that he doesn't-- wouldn't like the answer."

[FloridaPat]

8. I also remember Bush was so upset with the CIA he started

an intelligence branch at the DOD and told them to go out and get the information he needed. There was so little information, even they couldn't come up with falsehoods.

[Gregorian]

11. FWIW. I don't work. I am paying attention. And I can hardly keep up.

I don't get it. And if I am focussed and yet I still am not able to follow this stuff, then this is exactly how they've been getting away with this for decades.
And for those who work- forget it.
I don't even know why I"m posting this. I'm..... oops Tour de France takes my attention away now...

[G_j]

12. I remember and I'm not a fool

they can take their "group think" BS and shove it.
I'm extra pissed off today.

[Bush was AWOL]

14. I remember Tenet

telling Bush not to use the Niger Uranium, WMD, bullshit in his SOTU speech, because that information could not be verified, but that sure didn't stop him from misleading the American people. I remember Tenet telling Powell before he lied to the UN the same thing. Didn't stop either of them.

[Bush was AWOL]

15. I remember Tenet

telling Bush not to use the Niger Uranium, WMD, bullshit in his SOTU speech, because that information could not be verified, but that sure didn't stop him from misleading the American people. I remember Tenet telling Powell before he lied to the UN the same thing. Didn't stop either of them.