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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:12 PM
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We are turning over Saddam and he will be tried for exactly what?
Let me get this right...we go to another country, take their brutal dictator, bring him to our country until we can successfully :eyes:"turn over" so-called power to them and now send Saddam back...wtf? What exactly are their "laws" and how can they "try" him...:shrug: They don't have any "laws" yet, so what will the grounds be for any trial:shrug:?

what the hell...?
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pss Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:16 PM
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1. Did we in fact...
"take their brutal dictator, bring him to our country"? I don't know that this is true. Where is Saddam being held?

Anyone?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:53 PM
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12. who knows where he is..
he's in our custody...or is he...:think:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:16 PM
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2. we prevent ex post facto laws. iraq has no such restriction.
iraq is free to make it up as they go along, and we can say, gee, that's not the way we do it here, but, that's what iraqi freedom is all about.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:19 PM
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3. Wiil be tried for crime of "being a bad man".
Calls for a Writ of Dooshbaggery or something.
;-)
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:19 PM
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4. This is another joke...
...Iraq gets 'legal' custody while we maintain PHYSICAL custody. Until they can insure his safety. We didn't care about his safety when we were dropping bombs trying to blow him up. They are going to try him for war crimes including genocide....thats what I heard on the news.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:32 PM
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5. for having been turned over by the provisional authorites
evil doing in the third degree
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:40 PM
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6. Why can't they try him?
His crimes are not subtle or nuanced-- we're not talking about property rights, FCC violations, or speeding.

I think even a "new" country without an overly elaborate code of law can ascertain the guilt or innocence of someone accused of rape, torture, false imprisonment and mass murder.
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Brian Morans Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:44 PM
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7. He was quite fond of murder...
I'm sure there must be a law against that somewhere (excluding murder committed by Coalition mercenaries etc).
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:45 PM
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8. They don't need laws
He is being accused of crimes against humanity, which are international in scope.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:52 PM
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18. So..
Why isn't he being tried in an international court?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:46 PM
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9. Crimes against humanity
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 05:46 PM by geek tragedy
He can cry in the same ex post facto towel as Rudolf Hess and Hermann Goering.

If only he had peddled drugs, the US could make Manuel Noriega his cellmate.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:48 PM
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10. Possession of rape tools...
:eyes:
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Brian Morans Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:52 PM
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11. Just an aside...
Did we ever have the term "rape room" defined? I'd never heard it until the chimp began rambling on about them.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:54 PM
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13. Turning him over is illegal
He is a POW and as such is protected under the Geneva Convention. Not that we have paid much attention to that lately. I thought that according to the rules he would have to be tried in an international court, like Milosevic. Of course Bush and Company do not want to air in public all of the US's dirty little secrets regarding Saddam. Like the fact that we backed him in the Iran-Iraq war. So most of the atrocities were committed while he was still an ally, at the behest of Reagan and Bush I. So trial on Thursday and a quick execution to follow. I predict that is what will happen.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:56 PM
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14. The war is officially over, so they have to turn him over or charge him
with crimes.

There's no rule saying he has to be tried in an international court.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:14 PM
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15. it looks like there's "no rule" for anything where this
thing has taken us..sad...
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:20 PM
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16. There is a rule, it's just that aWol doesn't care about such things
However, their big into pretending to comply with the law now, so they'll transfer the "legal" custody.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 06:21 PM
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17. Tried for the October Surprise - Big Show Trial coming to you next fall
It's going to be like OJ. It's going to be on TV day and night. All of the victims will tell their stories. Bush's Lies will be justified by the suffering of Saddam's victims. That's what he will be tried for.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 07:05 PM
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19. Coupla thoughts
With the case bushco has tried to make that SH had ties to AQ, OBL and thus 9/11, why would he not be tried in the US as a criminal?

Second, how do we even know it is SH in custody and not a double?
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