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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:15 PM
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Aaron Brown spilled the beans on Wes Clark -- a Democrat!
Look. I caught this last night and was waiting for the transcript to confirm:

BROWN: OK. ... Let's talk about a couple of issues here. Do you believe that a Democratic candidate, yourself or someone else, can use the situation in Iraq, both before, during, and after the war, to his or her political advantage?


Remember, Aaron Brown also said this:

"General Clark, who, in fairness, we should say, we consider a friend, joins us tonight from Little Rock."

So Brown is a friend of Clark's, and refers to him as a Democratic candidate.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:20 PM
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1. Bit of a stretch
Brown is simply suggesting that Clark might run as a Democrat. Not that he will.

On the other hand, it is a fact that Clark is a life long registered Democrat.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:22 PM
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2. If Clark runs
it will be as a Democrat. Bank on it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:24 PM
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4. Of Course
I don't know why some folks here continue to suggest he's a Republican.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 PM
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14. That is a rhetorical device some of us use
Who would prefer that the Democratic party get back to being progressive. I understand that Democrats who like Clark think that he may attract moderate Republicans and win the Presidency for the Democratic Party. I don't think that will happen. But it would be great if I am proven wrong.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 05:29 PM
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28. Wes Clark Would
be to the left of Lieberman and to the right of Kucinich, Sharpton, and Moseley Braun and in the middle with Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Graham, and Gephardt.

I could be more nuanced but you get the point.
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Um_Yeah Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:24 PM
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5. Its not like Shrub is going anywhere.
So its either that or independant.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:25 PM
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6. Where did you find this?
"it is a fact that Clark is a life long registered Democrat."

I thought Clark said he wasn't registered for either party because it isn't required in his state.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:32 PM
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10. I'm not sure,
I could be wrong. I am pretty sure I read it somewhere. I also thought I read that he comes from a long line of Democratic politicians.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:36 PM
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11. His biological father...
was a Dem politician in Chicago. Other than that, I'm pretty sure he's said he isn't registered with any party. I heard him say (not sure which TV show, sorry) that he has voted for Dems and Republicans. He voted Dem in 2000. It appears that he votes his conscience.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:24 PM
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25. Clark will have to run as a Democrat to get my vote
I would never support an independent candidate.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:23 PM
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3. Yawn
:eyes:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:25 PM
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7. as I have said elsewhere...
...it doesn't matter if some progressives can't support Clark's candidacy.

The number of middle Americans who will flock to him will far surpass the number of progressives who won't support him.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:28 PM
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9. And as I have said
How many middle Americans vote in the primaries?
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:15 PM
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24. Apparently enough to elect DLCer Clinton
Which, agree with him or not, was good enough to defeat another highly popular wartime Republican president named Bush.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:27 PM
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26. Clinton and Bush in a primary?
Please explain what you mean.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:27 PM
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8. I remember Clark
was his sidekick during his entire show when the Iraq War first started. I think that is what he meant when he said "friend" They are friendly, and occassionaly work together.
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:14 PM
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21. I think Clark was a paid CNN consultant, wasn't he? n/t
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:15 PM
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23. I think so
he was the CNN military anaylyst.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:54 PM
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12. i hope Clark
is a Democrat.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:14 PM
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13. If people on this board can't actually
make a decision on his party affiliation after doing some reading for themselves, then I am truly worried about the intelligence of the remaining adult public in the US. We should "get it" here, if anywhere. If you seriously can't recognize Democrat in the available information then you ain't been paying attention to what a Repuke is in 2003. You may have legitimate qualms about him as a candidate, but don't rely on the straw man that he might declare Repuke.

Perhaps those who still have doubts are relying on their own misperceptions and biases instead of observing the materials available?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:32 PM
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15. Kick
:kick:
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:29 PM
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16. if a man wants the dem nomination,
then he shouldn't make us play stupid guessing games.

If people on this board can't actually make a decision on his party affiliation after doing some reading for themselves, then I am truly worried about the intelligence of the remaining adult public in the US. We should "get it" here, if anywhere.

if Clark can't actually make a clear statement as to which party he belongs to, or whether he's really in the race, then i am truly worried about the intelligence of people who are flocking to support him in spite of his complete lack of any track record in electoral politics.

if this is what he's like now, what's he going to be like in the campaign? yeah, this is going to make a great answer, when someone asks him about some issue: "If you can't figure out my position on the environment (or the death penalty, or the middle east, or the economy) from my archive of video clips, then you must be really dense."

sorry, dude, that AINT gonna cut it.

as much as i dislike Lieberman, at least that man has the guts to take a clear stand, even if it is unpopular, and be judged for it.

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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:38 PM
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17. The Iowa Caucuses aren't until January 19
Most people complain that presidential campaigns last two long. Only here do people whine that someone is waiting to long to start campaigning.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:40 PM
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18. You've read all the previous threads
for some reason, though, this crap has to be repeated so often rather than worrying about the real issues of * and his criminal gang.

One more time - Dude - he ain't a candidate. He doesn't have to declare an affiliation. Should he declare and not run then some of his livelihood will be eliminated (commentary) and a liberal voice will be lost in the current media climate.

Should he run I think he will articulate his stance on any given issue rather well. His elocution and articulation, as well as grasp of the issues is above reproach.

On the strawman of Lieberman, Joe isn't taking any high road and I think that is obvious - he is taking the road that he either believes will make him most electable or that satisfies his masters within the BFEE - neither of which is an acceptable or palatable explanation.
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:53 PM
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19.  An open letter to every Howard Dean Supporter

If Clark dosen't run I will knock every door, call everybody I can to Elect Howard Dean, but now just isn't the right time

Clark can and WILL beat Bush.

The Sad reality is that Clark can't win the primaries.

PLEASE Support General Clark, Please.

Let's not have a bloody Primary.
That's just what Rove is counting on.

So I ask every Deanie to vote Clark/Dean in 04.

In 2012 I will work hard to elect Vice President Dean, President.

Than Dean can work the same magic that has inspired millions!


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Coffee Coyote Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:05 PM
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20. please - no more generals in the WH
An American tradition that mercifully died in 1961 when Eisenhower left office.

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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:14 PM
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22. You're right
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 04:15 PM by zekeson
I hate those damn interstates. Washington really sucked, too, huh? Ya got me on Grant - I admit.

And man, alternatively wasn't that B-movie actor great? That CIA dude was also fantastic, and then, for the encore, his washed up coke head son has been a real ball of fun.

Don't use stereo-types, Clark doesn't fit them. Don't generalize - pardon the pun - but gee, someone else posted the same the last time someone offred the same advice and it made me chuckle as much as your blanket statement does.

edit for missing word
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LEFTofLEFT Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 05:12 PM
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27. MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
What has Clark said about the power wielded by this monster????????????????
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 05:33 PM
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29. The Man On Your Avatar
was military and damn proud of it.

His book "Why Not The Best" was a tribute to his mentor Admiral Rickover.

I trust you know that.
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