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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 06:56 PM
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Proud member of the Wackadoo Wing of the Democratic Party.
Edited on Sun May-30-04 07:12 PM by madfloridian


I forgot to give credit to Maureen Dowd for the new name for our wing of the party. Kudos, Mo.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:02 PM
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1. Wackadoo, too!
:) :) :) :) :) :)
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:04 PM
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2. Wackadoo forever!
Edited on Sun May-30-04 07:19 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
:toast:

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:05 PM
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3. See my sig line
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:08 PM
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6. Good Krugman quote, Eloriel.
Good quote.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:33 PM
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22. Eloriel is back!
Yessss!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:07 PM
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4. Are Dem's Wackadoo or just plain crazy? A fair and balanced distortion.
Thanks for your post madfloridian, I'd like to steal your "wackadoo wing" at some time if it's OK with you.....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:07 PM
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5. Let me ask the person who sent it. I don't care. I love it.
Edited on Sun May-30-04 07:09 PM by madfloridian
Let me check.

Me? I am totally sane and very passionate about my country.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:17 PM
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9. yeah, it's a good piece. thanks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:26 PM
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16. Yes, share it.
NYCGirl did it .
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:37 PM
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39. I also wonder how many "Wackadoos"
are over the age of 35? If you lived through or grew up in the late sixties through the seventies, then what you knew as the Democratic party has almost no resemblance to what exists in it's place today.
:shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:57 PM
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40. Well over that age, and I do remember !
My goodness, there is no resemblance. I was never ever made fun of or humiliated for politics. There was passion, and no one was ashamed of it.

I guess the younger people may not realize the difference because the Noise Machine has marginalized us by the use of words like "liberal" (bad word.)

Now it appears it is natural for the party establishment to run from the populism that is rearing up now from even moderates like us. Our own party is letting the grassroots know now that we don't really have a place.

Humiliation tactics work well after all.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:16 PM
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43. Please read my post at the bottom of this thread
(I think it's #38?) I really identified with what the author, Wooldridge, had to say about America's political center of gravity (I think you will too). I've become more and more disturbed by how far to the right our party has moved since the seventies when I helped my mother with democratic campaigns; I simply don't recognize our party anymore. It's no longer OK to be anti-death penalty, or anti-gun, or pro-animal rights...even being an environmentalist is seen as a bit "wacky". Those WERE part of our core beliefs as Democrats, but the right wing has VERY successfully made us ashamed of those beliefs. They are destroying us from within, IMHO. It will take a whole army of "wackadoos" to shout us back towards the political center, let alone the left wing!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:22 PM
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44. Jen6, you should repost your "These dogs don't hunt" cartoon.
I have a copy on my older computer, but if you have it handy you should post it again.

It was brilliant, and it explains how they can so easily manipulate us.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:29 PM
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45. Found it on a google search, very appropriate.
http://www.freedomofthepress.net /
No investigative research, no questioning. Just state something and even the Democrats fall for it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:35 PM
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46. Oops! Forgot SoCalDem was in on that as well. Had its debut on DU.
Kudos to both of you. It is why we are called "wackadoos" with impunity. No one even bothers to stand up and say "enough!"

:cry:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:00 PM
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47. Here's (maybe) a bigger version:


it's SoCaldem's concept, I just did the drawing. I wish I had more time for cartooning, but I'm so burned out on art by the end of the work day that I have no energy for it. :-(

Thanks for remembering us! :hi: I can't believe how this one made the rounds!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:17 PM
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49. Thanks for the bigger version. This one should not be forgotten.
It just says it all. The dogs that don't hunt just look so smug and happy, like they know they are the ones who really have the power. Makes me feel sad and scared. I am reading The Republican Noise Machine, and I thought of this.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:30 PM
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51. The dogs are smug and happy because
their master(s) feed and care for them well (deregulation, tax breaks, etc.) Except the NPR dog; she's very loyal, so she's confused about only being handed scaps for dinner.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:43 PM
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52. LOL about NPR.
The smug and happy media rejoices in dividing us. And you can include the newspapers locally as well. I am beginning to see some things in our local paper that are almost verbatim what I sent as research to a couple of reporters last year. It was ignored.

They have been smug and happy too long. Unfortunately, Mo's column had a very adverse effect on my hubby and neighbor. They are quite logical in their argument, for which I have no answer. They say Kerry needs to speak out and clarify if he disapproves of Gore's speech or not....still the most viewed at C-Span last I looked. Their argument is quite sensible, and I have no response to it.

Sometimes we must take on certain issues. We must.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:28 PM
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60. Love the toon!
Thanks for sharing your insights and talents!
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:03 PM
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53. I just caught on about the FOX dog and the NPR.
W is scratching the head of the Fox dog. I never noticed that. Ha ha. You are right about the NPR having their nose out of joint. That is really a good cartoon, very perceptive.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 03:09 PM
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54. Thanks!
:hi:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:13 PM
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7. Wackadoodle doo!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:56 PM
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18. And wackadoodle doo to you, too.
:hi:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:32 PM
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20. I have to hand it to MoDo
Every once in a while I start forgetting why I loathe her. She never fails to remind me though!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:16 PM
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8. Yes, and proudly wackadoo.
We need a T-Shirt. :-)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:18 PM
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10. NYCGirl gives permission to share the icon.
Edited on Sun May-30-04 07:19 PM by madfloridian
We should all be wackadoos now. :evilgrin:
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:19 PM
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11. The only appropriate reply
When called a member of the Wackadoo wing of the party is Thank You. Say it loud and say it proud. "I'm Wackadoo." Don't let the pukes define this noble word like they did "liberal." They stripped all the honor from that word, to the point that Dems ran away from it. Much the pity.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:22 PM
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12. kick
kick as I can't post a response to this right now. just find these comments about my president in exile, Mr. Gore, more than disgusting and distressing.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:22 PM
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13. Say it loud! I'm Wackadoo and proud!
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:01 PM
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23. how about this....i'm a liberal wackadoo! better? :) nt
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:25 PM
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14. wackadoo-wackadoo-wackadoo-doo-dooo
kids are people too, I loved Wonderama! Has anybody seen an aardvark?

wackadoo-wackadoo-wackadoo-doo-dooo
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:08 PM
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27. That was a great song.
I don't remember that program. I taught the lower grades for years, so that type of song is special to me.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:26 PM
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15. Thank you. I'm Wackadoo.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 07:56 PM
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17. Yes........n/t
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 08:59 PM
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19. wackadoo for eternity!
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:32 PM
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21. Now a Wackadoo?
Yep, now and for all eternity!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:08 PM
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24. Here's the original article MF is referring to.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/opinion/27DOWD.html?n...

"John Kerry's advisers were surprised and annoyed to hear that Mr. Gore hollered so much, he made Howard Dean look like George Pataki. They don't want voters to be reminded of the wackadoo wing of the Democratic Party."

I guess that makes me a "wackadoo" too? ;) Fortunately, they let me vote anyhow. Now if I can only get them to count the votes ...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:30 PM
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26. Thanks!
:hi:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:14 PM
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25. I'm rather fond of being a Toad Weed (thanks Rush) but
I'm Wackadoo just like you.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:11 PM
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28. wackadoo right here too
and what the HELL is up with them screaming about his screaming? Which by the way, was minimal. THat was a POWERFUL, PASSIONATE speech.

Oh yeah they are screaming about his speaking style because they CAN'T ANSWER THE CHARGES HE BROUGHT AGAINST THEM!!!!!!

(that was screaming....from a wackadoo.)
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:20 PM
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30. Wackadoo!
Here too!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:13 PM
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29. Wooo hooooo!!!!!
Proud liberal wackadoo reporting for duty. :evilgrin:

Thank you NYCGirl and madfloridian. :toast:


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:23 PM
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31. You're welcome! (eom)
NT
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:28 PM
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32. And the Grassy Knoll Society, too.


Cynthia was right to ask the questions.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:11 AM
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33. And those who ask questions get called names. Have you noticed?
It is a shame. Our country never used to be this way.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:08 AM
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34. remember after 12-12-00 there was the 'fringe society' and 'we are all
black now'....someone had a great article in response to the spin that only blacks were protesting the FL vote and the supreme court decision

anyone have a link to that article?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:03 PM
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41. Yes I remember that
It was right after that I decided to join the NAACP.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:29 AM
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35. do wackadoo, wackadoo, wackadoo...
Edited on Mon May-31-04 05:29 AM by kentuck
King of the Road - by Roger Miller. But I will wear that label with pride if it means I loudly criticize the Bush regime.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 06:20 AM
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36. Got a link to the article or comments?
Since I am a Deaniac and a moveon member, I qualify for wackdoo status, I guess. LOL
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:12 AM
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37. Here is the article by Maureen Dowd
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/opinion/27DOWD.html?n...

She manages to insult everyone in this article:
SNIP..."Mr. Gore blasted the administration's "twisted values" and dominatrix attitude toward the world: "Dominance is as dominance does."

"George W. Bush promised us a foreign policy with humility," he said, in one of the most virulent attacks on a sitting president ever made by such a high-ranking former official. "Instead, he has brought us humiliation in the eyes of the world." (He did not ask the neocon cabal ringleader, Dick Cheney, to step down, perhaps in a spirit of second-banana solidarity.)

John Kerry's advisers were surprised and annoyed to hear that Mr. Gore hollered so much, he made Howard Dean look like George Pataki. They don't want voters to be reminded of the wackadoo wing of the Democratic Party...."




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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:10 PM
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55. I think she's writing tongue in cheek here -
after all she attributes the "wackadoo wing" stuff to Kerry's advisers. I read that James Carville, Paul Begala, and the DLC wing of the Dem party. Even frigging Air America plays the Dean scream over and over during the day. Kerry supporters hate us (wackaddos), but they want us to vote for "their" guy. I will, but I don't have to like it. And MD was just exposing some of the BS.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:00 PM
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58. You may be right on the tongue in cheek.
I think when something like this comes up, people immediately need to say we stand together now. She is dividing us, and they need to counter it. Sometimes you just have to counter spin.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:02 PM
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59. Wierd wacky world of the wonderful wackadoo wing of one winning
Democrat Party!!!...
:grouphug: :yourock: :dem: :party: :bounce: :toast: :kick: :hi:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:17 PM
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38. COMPLETELY destroying the Democratic party
That's what those on the far right are succeeding in doing. First they redefined the term "liberal", Liberal politicians soon ran from the term by turning their backs on their core beliefs. Now partisanship and dissent on a Democrats part is "Wackadoo", while it's "patriotic" coming from anyone in the GOP. If we buy into any more of their psy-ops, soon no one will admit to being or voting for a democrat-and that's not far away at this rate.

By European standards, almost no one in the current democratic party is anything less than a right winger. Listen to what this British writer had to say this weekend on "NOW with Bill Moyers":


BRANCACCIO: If you're going to make any sense of this election year, you have to try to understand the soul of the Conservative movement that brought George Bush to power, and the Republican majority to both houses of Congress. To help us with that, we've asked two reporters to join me tonight. Michel Martin is a correspondent for ABC news, and a regular contributor to NIGHTLINE. Adrian Wooldridge is Washington correspondent for THE ECONOMIST, and the co-author of a new book. It's called THE RIGHT NATION, CONSERVATIVE POWER IN AMERICA. Welcome to NOW.
MARTIN: Thank you.
WOOLDRIDGE: Good evening.
BRANCACCIO: Adrian, knowing full well that there are 31 definitions for the word "right" in the dictionary, how, right is America right now?
WOOLDRIDGE: In this book, we try and argue two things. The first is that America contains a right nation, which is a vigorous, well-organized, well-distanced, conservative movement, unlike anything that exists in the rest of the world. But we also try and argue in this book that the center of political gravity in the United States is very much to the right of the center of political gravity in Europe. So, in one sense, the whole of America is a right nation, in the sense that they're more conservative on all sorts of measures than any single European country.

(snip)


BRANCACCIO: I was getting the impression, reading the book, Adrian, that it doesn't matter who wins in November. The notion is that the Conservative movement in America has already won, is the take away point that I was getting.
WOOLDRIDGE: I think there's a lot of truth in that. I think if you look at America in 1960 and now, this is a country that has moved very, very far to the right. Whoever wins the election in 2004, this will still be a right wing country, compared with Europe, but also compared with the America even of Richard Nixon.
It's not that it's irrelevant who wins. But the center of gravity is very much further to the right. I think a lot of Europeans think that this country has been hijacked by this right wing fleet of lunatics, and that their motto basically is waiting for the nightmare to end.
But I think if Kerry wins, the nightmare for Europeans won't end. There will be a brief honeymoon period. But on Iraq, on Israel, on Kyoto, on the projection of power abroad, on the virtues of the use of power versus the use of negotiations, America will still be an outlyer. And the Europeans will still be very discontented of America's attitude.
MARTIN: You know, I agree with you that the key difference between George Bush and John Kerry is not what, but how. I mean, this is a man who voted for the Iraq resolution, who has proclaimed that he is for America as the strongest military force in the world. That he wants to project American power. That's clearly necessary to win the election. But it also, I believe, is a core belief
WOOLDRIDGE: Absolutely.

(snip)


BRANCACCIO: And from the European perspective, we really do, as a country, seem sort of off the charts conservative. There are European conservatives who think we're too conservative.
WOOLDRIDGE: Absolutely. I remember during the primary campaign in Iowa, going to look at Dean's supporters. And I was talking to one who happened to be Swedish.
What a Swedish person was doing working for Dean, I don't know. But he told me that Dean was the one person that he could work for. But only with a certain heavy heart.
Because Dean was really, in Swedish terms, a far right winger. And he said that Dean's attitude to health care, saying that you needed you know, basically some... is something that needed to be solved by the private sector was extraordinary, by his standards. But at least he was better than George W. Bush, and some of the other candidates. And
BRANCACCIO: But you were back in London talking to some British conservatives
WOOLDRIDGE: Absolutely.
BRANCACCIO: And what did you find?
WOOLDRIDGE: I talked to a lot of British conservatives. And they were very, very hostile to George W. Bush. They considered him to be far too right wing and far too
BRANCACCIO: Tories in London
WOOLDRIDGE: Tories, this is the closest ally that Britain has in Europe, this is the party that's most closely aligned to the American Republican party. Remember the days of Ron and Margaret, and all that sort of stuff. And these British Tories now think that George W. Bush, he's just off the charts.
Just too right wing. And they're much happier with Kerry. They're Kerry conservatives, almost.
BRANCACCIO: And luckily for all concerned, we dumped that tea into Boston harbor. And we don't have to really care

(snip)

More: http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript322_full.ht...
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 01:14 PM
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42. Proud wackadoo! n/t
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:09 PM
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48. Still wackadoo after all these years....
;)
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 02:17 PM
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50. Count me in...
Edited on Mon May-31-04 02:24 PM by Q
...I don't mind associating my name with the likes of Gore, Dean, Kucinich, Wellstone, Kennedy, Byrd...and all the other freedom/Constitution - loving WACKADOOS. (Living or Dead).

- Q, the wackadoo.

- On edit: I might add that Gore never 'yelled' at all. He provided emphasis and passion where called for in his long speech. Some of the greatest orators do the same...but they're not called 'wackos' because they don't currently oppose the Bush* cabal.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:31 PM
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56. huzzah!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:46 PM
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57. Kick
for the late night Wackadoos!
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