Well, there ya go....CNN just said a vote for Kerry helps Al Qaida.

[Catherine Vincent]

They just reported that Al Qaida would prefer the troops pull out of Iraq and since Bush* will keep them there longer, they don't want a Bush* win. They even brought up the Spain elections being swayed because of 3.11.

Subliminally, CNN is telling everyone to vote Bush!





:argh:
:grr:
:nuke:

[Egnever]

1. thats a stupid argument

Iraq is the best thing that could have hapened for al queda

[Goldmund]

2. That ain't so subliminal.

I also think that it is absolutely beyond discussion that the Bush regime has been the biggest blessing Osama ever could have asked for. And vice versa.

[Beam Me Up]

3. HEY! CNN!!! This kind of CRAP reflects on YOU.

You have no credibility what so ever as you've aided and abetted a pResident who selected HIS "intelligence" from an enemy spy.

SO FUCK YOU!

[Wind Dancer]

Just heard that too!

Disgusting beyond belief.

[uhhuh]

10. What Show?

What exactly was said, and in what context?
I think those who saw this have to write to CNN and voice concern about this. I would write, but I have to know what I'm talking about.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. It was just a report from the Wolf Blitzer Reports.

Althought Blitzer is off today. I do plan to drop a line to CNN and berate them. That was absolutely disgusting. Sorry, I can't remember all what was said, they were interviewing some so called experts and that it what was said. It will probably be replayed later today...maybe on the Paula Zahn segment.

I am willing to bet this will be said more and more from right wingers as the election gets closer.

[qwertyMike]

4. Link?

[Bluebear]

5. I heard it, the message was absolutely clear

They are linking Madrid with our elections and touting Bush.

[uhhuh]

6. In a Fair Media

They would then point out that Americans would prefer to have jobs and affordable health care, and not see their sons and daughters die overseas for Halliburton.
They would also point out that Osama also wanted the U.S. out of SA and he got it.

[sendero]

7. First off...

.... Kerry has made no indications that I know of that he's in any hurry to pull out troops.

But - this could work against Bush*. Aren't we close to having a majority that thinks pulling out is the best option?

[RC]

8. We need to tie the upsurge of Al Qaida to bu$h.

By his bungling in Afghanistan and Iraq from the git go. Bombing wedding parties, inhumane treatment of the locals without cause. Indiscriminate shooting of women & children. We need to make War Crimes synonymous with George Walker Bu$h, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Richard Cheney and the rest of the lying criminals in this administration. The world has suffered enough already.

[0007]

35. We need to tie the upsurge of Al Qaida to CNN

[SlingBlade]

9. They essentially feed each other

Bush without September 11th would have been exposed long ago for the fraud he is.
Bin Laden has experienced a huge influx of support due to Bushes blunders.
Just as the right need the poor and the disenfranchised to rant about free rides and slackers, The Minorities and the Liberal left wing.They call CNN a leftist news source ......

They need each other, They are salt and pepper.

[markus]

11. I'm pretty sure I heard Bluff Witless say about the same yesterday

but I was in the airport and couldn't hear too clearly from my barstool, uh, I mean, airport lounge chair.

[whosinpower]

12. Why won't they publish the letter

THE LETTER - you know....the one supposedely from Al qaida claiming responsibility to the Madrid bombing.....and at the bottem, they endorsed BUSH!!!!!!!! Something to the effect that they want him to win as his stupidity is very very helpful to them. (I am not joking)

[tom_paine]

15. Because it's not "confirmed"

And never mind that Corporate TV Pravda REGULARLY prints and launders Bushevik "Action Items" that are either lies wrapped around a grain of truth or Total Fabrication.

Orwellian Double-Standards are a fixture of Totalitarian Societies like Imperial Amerika is trending towards.

CNN is WORSE than Faux because they fool more people when they are essentially the same shit as Faux.

[Disturbed]

18. BushCo and Al Q.

They help each other with recruitment.

Without the 911 Attacks, Bush and the Neo Fascists would have an approval rating now below 30%.


Bush's Broken Promises


"You can't say one thing and do another." - George W. Bush, 10/31/00

During the presidential campaign and his first year in office, George W. Bush made a number of promises affecting American families, but he has failed to keep them. From breaching the Social Security lockbox to making it harder for middle class families to pay for college and leaving out millions of seniors from his prescription drug proposal, Bush has made a habit out of saying one thing and doing another. Here is a catalogue of Bush's broken promises revealed in his FY 2003 budget and in other key policy areas. In contrast to Bush's failures, Democrats have a strong record of progress on these issues.

Summary of Bush's Broken Promises

*Deficit

Bush said his tax cut would not cause deficits, even in a bad economy.

Bush's FY 2003 budget posts $106 billion deficit, the first deficit since 1997. The budget will return to balance in 2005, at the earliest.

*Social Security

Bush said Social Security Trust Fund would remain in a lockbox.

Bush breached the Social Security Trust Fund and is on schedule to spend $1.65 trillion of it over the next ten years.

*National Debt

Bush promised to pay down a record amount of the national debt.

Bush not only failed to pay down the national debt, he has been forced to request a $750 billion increase in the debt limit.

*Education Reform

As part of the bipartisan education reform, Bush promised to spend more money on education.

Bush budget cut funding from his own "No Child Left Behind" law and provided the smallest education funding increase in seven years.

*Pell Grants

Bush promised to increase the maximum Pell Grant award, thereby increasing access to higher education.

Bush froze Pell Grant limit below his promised level.

*LIHEAP

Bush promised to "fully fund" LIHEAP (the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program).

Bush's budget cut LIHEAP by $300 million.

*Medicare

Bush pledged to provide Medicare prescription drug coverage for all seniors.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that Bush's plan would cover only 6 percent of Medicare beneficiaries.

*Yucca Mountain

Bush promised to listen to sound science and local officials before deciding to bury the nation's nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain.

Bush designated Yucca Mountain the site before all the science is in, flouting local officials.

*Student Loans

Bush promised to make higher education more accessible by helping students with high costs.

Bush proposed pulling $1.3 billion from a program that allows students to consolidate education loans at federally subsidized interest rates.

[LittleApple81]

38. This is the letter you are referring to. I think we should use it even if

they "haven't confirmed" it.
from previous post:

underpants (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-26-04 10:10 PM
Original message
!!! al Qaeda endorses Bush !!!
I heard this on Crossfire today so I figured I would check it out. I
can't get the link to REUTERS to work on this computer (tell me this
isn't fake).
Now THAT is a bumpersticker fer ya
http://www.seriouslythough.com /
modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=...
In a statement released by the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which
claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings and claims to be the
European military wing of al-Qaeda, the group's leader supported George
Bush for president. The suprise announcement came coupled with an order
by the group's leader for all al-Qaeda operatives in Europe to pause
all terrorist operations. The reason for the ceasing of terrorist
operations in Europe, according to the group, was to give Spain time to
withdraw their troops from Iraq as Spain's newly elected socialist
Prime Minister has promised to do. The terrorist group stated that it
wished Bush to win because it was not possible to find a leader, "more
foolish than you, who deals with matters by force rather than with
wisdom."
also, this:
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2004 03:57:04 by Robbedvoter
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 10:32 PM by AZDemDist6
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/1079609768527_2 /
?h...
snip> The statement tells American voters that Abu Hafs al-Masri
supports the re-election campaign of U.S. President George W. Bush: "We
are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections."
Addressing Bush, it says: "We know that a heavyweight operation would
destroy your government, and this is what we don't want. We are not
going to find a bigger idiot than you."
The statement said Abu Hafs al-Masri needs what it called Bush's
"idiocy and religious fanaticism" because they would "wake up" the
Islamic world.
Comparing Bush with his Democratic party challenger, John Kerry, the
statement tells the president: "Actually, there is no difference
between you and Kerry, but Kerry will kill our community, while it is
unaware, because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish
infidelity and present it to the Arab and Islamic community as
civilization." <snip

[rumguy]

14. We need the transcript of this, and then we need to beat CNN

over the head with it.

[maggrwaggr]

21. transcript's not up yet. 3:35 PM PT. Keep this kicked

maybe by tonight it will be up. Tomorrow we can beat the shit out of them with this.

Keep this kicked.

[Larkspur]

16. Al Queda is using reverse psychology. They want Bush as Prez

He's their #1 Recruiter.

And CNN -- Chickenhawk Noodle News -- wants Bush as Prez because they like using their airwaves for realistic Video Games, like the 2003 Iraq War.

[Jawja]

17. I am OUTRAGED

that the media is running with this thing.

Is there any evidence at all that the bombings in Spain influenced their election? Didn't the eventual winner lead in the polls anyway?

:grr: :nuke:

[Gregorian]

19. Prove it!

And just how do they know that? We want proof.

In fact, I suggest just the opposite. If these people paid one iota of attention to the root causes of terrorism, they'd recognize that a vote for Bush actually strengthens hatred for america.

[Wind Dancer]

20. Absolutely!

It's propaganda at its finest.

[troublemaker]

22. The phrase 'CNN just said" doesn't apply to

what a guest said on CNN.

[Killarney]

23. TEAR THEM A NEW ONE: LINK

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?21

I just sent them a scathing letter.

[mzmolly]

24. I heard Al Qaida wants shrubby because he feeds their vision of an

apocolypse in 6 years? Kerry is too level headed for them to accomplish their goals. ;)

Let's not let them do this shit to us folks! We know who Al Qaida wants, and that is BUSH! :hi:

[Sparkly]

29. That's right -- The Chimp and bin Laden both want their holy war.

Both are fanatics.

[rumguy]

25. TRANSCRIPT OF OFFENDING SEGMENT

" (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ARENA (voice-over): Terror experts say it's not about who wins the U.S. election, it's about impact.

M.J. GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION: If, for instance, say, George Bush was in the lead in the opinion polls right now and an attack took place and that changes the equation as it did, for instance in Spain, then al Qaeda would feel that it has scored a major success.

ARENA: Al Qaeda affiliates attacked Spain just before its elections in March. Some suggests that cemented an overwhelming win for the socialist party.

ASHCROFT: We believe, for example, the attack in Spain is one that is viewed by al Qaeda as particularly effective in advancing al Qaeda objectives.

ARENA: The attack did result in Spain pulling its troops out of Iraq. Experts say the less Western influence in Iraq, the better for al Qaeda.

GOHEL: Iraq is a key battleground for the terrorists. The terrorists want to turn Iraq into another Taliban Afghanistan. They would like to see the premature withdrawal of the U.S.-led coalition forces.

ARENA: Neither John Kerry nor the president has said troops pulled out of Iraq any time soon. But there is some speculation that al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.

BEN VENZKE, INTELCENTER: Al Qaeda feels that Bush is, even despite casualties, right or wrong for staying there is going to stay much longer than possibly what they might hope a Democratic administration would.

(END VIDEOTAPE)"

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/27/wbr.01.html

This is segment is just a collection of right-wing memes about the war on terror. There is no actual substance to it. "Iraq is a key battleground" - "AQ thinks they have better chance of winning in Iraq if JK is in the WH", etc... How the fuck can anyone say that Kerry could not win this after Bush has fucked it up so bad? A new approach, one that involves PLANNING and less LYING seems to me to be the way to win the war in Iraq. If a "win" is even possible at this point.

One of the strangest things about this segment is that NO ONE knows how an attack would influence an election. AQ has no idea either. Yet logically there would be some sort of impact. It's just that no no one knows exactly what it would be, thus this is all speculation turned into repig spin. It's disgusting, it's flawed reasoning, and those that employ you it, IMO, are no better than terrorists. In fact they are doing EXACTLY what AQ wants, spinning and speculating in a sowed climate of fear. Fuck these asshats might as well be working for AQ as far as I'm concerned.

Fuck you CNN - network for Al Queda. You spread the fear, you sow the doubts, you disprupt our national discourse!

[bluedog]

26. what we do is write

then we all turn the channel CNN OFF.................go to MSNBC for news..........CNN has become the right winf spin machine.they are as bad as FOX..............If we refuse to watch .they will hang themselves in the end.....even Crossfire is getting stupid lately.......lets band together and keep their ratings down!!!! thats the only way.as for complaining....they don't give a damn!!

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Thanks, Rumguy for the transcript.

Isn't that disgusting? I can't believe CNN would air worthless crap like that. I am about to send them an email right now!

[Sparkly]

28. ACK!!! I saw this coming

and I've been screaming about it for days!!

"There is some speculation" from WHOM??? All they've said is unnamed "US officials." These are obviously GOP operatives toying with people's fears and issues of national security to boost the Chimp. It's an outrage!!!

Who is Ben Venzke, what's Intelcenter, and how does he know what "Al Qaeda feels?"

Grrrrr......

[oblivious]

33. I hate to be a bore, but I gotta keep posting this.

US intelligence agencies said in March the "al-qaeda affiliated group" that claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombs does not exist. It was a hoax. Yet this Arena scum above says "Al Qaeda affiliates attacked Spain". Just like Ashcroft. To sow fear. Contradicting the clear evidence presented by US intelligence agencies. This is insane that CNN lets him promote these lies and propaganda on national TV.

...specialists say there is no evidence the organization exists ... none of those claims has proved true, intelligence specialists say ... US intelligence officials do not know whether the group exists ... "This group, organization, or whatever it is, is a phantom." ... messages from the purported brigade are not credible ... none of the brigade's e-mails has ever proved authentic ... "We have no information confirming the actual existence of this group,"

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/03/13/officials_group_tying_self_to_blasts_may_not_be_real/

This is what we've got to get through to the media. They are knowingly or unknowingly promoting a falsehood that borders on propaganda.

[Neecy]

30. Schneider said something similar today

He was speculating (and looking creepily happy doing so) that if there's a terrorist attack this summer, it would *benefit* Bush in November because the country would 'rally around the pResident' like they did on 9/11.

Oh goodie, the potential death of thousands of citizens would benefit Bush. Schnieder was almost rubbing his little gnome hands in glee. I can see that they're already laying the groundwork for some random terra 'attack'. Traitors. Bastards.

[mmonk]

31. Tell them

Al Queda wants bush so they have their holy war. bush was Bin Laden's dream come true.

[AP]

32. Right. Nobody ever heard of Al Qaida before Bush became president.

Now they're the most powerful NGO in the world, and they're more powerful than many countries.

They love Bush. He has put them on the map.

[TOhioLiberal]

34. who the terrorists want to be president....

so there CNN!

[Sparkly]

36. NEWS: Hubby just said Baltimor Mayor Martin O'Malley remarked

that a terrorist attack is likely, and the terrorists would like for Bush to be re-elected. Take THAT, CNN!!

(This was on TV -- if I can get a transcript I'll post it. The mayor deserves a note of thanks!)

[gulfcoastliberal]

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Ahhhh...better now.