Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Brace yourselves people, bushco is planning attack number two

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:12 AM
Original message
Brace yourselves people, bushco is planning attack number two
because the effects of attack number one are beginning to wear off.
phase two begins this summer, or any time really.

my paranoia pills have all run out. my voice is hoarse. i sleep only moments a day. i've grown weary of running down the street like paul revere. it cannot be stopped. our own government is planning a sacrifice of some of it's citizens to keep the rest in line.

i am sad, and i feel useless. i wish i could shake the sleeping out of their slumber, i wish i could stop this, but i can't. it's coming.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:16 AM
Response to Original message
1. mopaul, I wanted to let you know that I just LOVE your animations
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:18 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. thank you ps....
....love is all you need
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:24 AM
Response to Original message
3. Another attack and Bush might as well resign -
folks are sick of him and if he can't do what it takes to protect us, they will not rally to him anymore.

I've heard too many people, Repubs included, that are disgusted by all of the money we have spent in Iraq and wish that money could have gone to strengthen and defend our "homeland".

Bush is out, one way or another.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:28 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. i tend to agree, bush is on the way out, which makes him dangerous
this group of nazis planned on two terms. when it becomes apparent they only get one, they will do something to ensure they have a foothold in 2005 and beyond.

just because we fire bush, does not mean these assholes are gone. we must continue the liberalization of america and remove all cockroaches.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:31 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Another attack will make the Bush* cabal stronger...
Edited on Wed May-26-04 05:33 AM by Q
...mainly because our current 'state of national emergency' would be elevated to martial law. If you think the Bushies are 'untouchable' now...wait until our government uses the military to police and control America.

- Many Americans would rally behind the 'president' once again and demand more revenge. No one...GOPers and Dems alike...would want to look 'weak' on national security.

- Here's the deal: the Busheis want you more afraid of THEM than the 'terrorists'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #3
27. Another attack, and Cheney will declare martial law? Elections cancelled?
He is certainly capable of that. Would people resist?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:00 AM
Response to Reply #27
37. we haven't resisted them at all so far
the only reason they've gotten away with everything, everything, is because no one is stopping them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #37
73. The price of stopping them is not easy...
the only reason they've gotten away with everything, everything, is because no one is stopping them.

This is true, and I think the only way they are going to be stopped is by the kind of peaceful resistance that the civil rights protesters did in the 1960s and 1970s. We are going to have to (metaphorically) sit down at their lunch counters and refuse to move. If we don't, other nations in the world might decide to stop the U.S., and that would affect all of us in the worst possible way. Better that some of us take the initiative and handle our own problems. The only thing of it is that some of us will most likely be killed or permanently disabled... not something very many are willing to risk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UnityDem Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #27
39. With Diebold, they don't
need martial law. They can "win" again at the black ballot box.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #39
68. Diebold is used sometimes as a cop out, as in "doesn't matter, Diebold.."
"It'll all be rigged", etc.

Far as I know, anyone, in any state can have a written, old fashioned absentee ballot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
61. Another and Bush might as well resign...himself to a life in prison!!
So many people are now on to Bushler and the Bush Crime Administration's evil deeds - plus, the wreckless Busheviks have made so many major enemies in the intelligence community and the U.S. military! Bring it on - you LIHOPING/MIHOPING motherfuckers!!

:spank:
:argh:
:mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Why would he do that?
Use common sense man. That would be the worst thing if he wanted to insure his re-"election".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:32 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. i don't even think the election matters to them anymore
they may have already lost it, and realize it. but they have big plans either way, and regard for being re-elected is now on the back burner. more importantly is their pnac plan, which god only knows.

they certainly don't give a damn about what we think, we didn't want to go to war, but they did it anyway. they are very dangerous right now, BECAUSE they know they may lose the white house.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:45 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. True Dat!
bu$h was never meant to be more than a one-termer. Every action his handlers "made" him take was done with NO thought of the long term. It's ALL been "get it while you can, there's no tomorrow." Of course, Poppy would relish a second term for Junior; the rape of the Earth could then proceed at Warp 9, but The Few have already become wealthy beyond their evil dreams during Term I.

The hell of this is that another Terra Attack is a win-win for the bu$histas. If it leads to Georgie's second term, it's a green light for Pillage and Plunder. If bu$h goes down, well, it just serves America right for turning Her back on the Terra Preznit, no? Think "Scorched Earth."

If there is the tiniest ray of hope here, it is that the Regime is playing this Terra card WAY earlier than they originally planned. That means they are in much more trouble politically than our TVs will tell us!

:freak:
dbt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #9
48. Absolutely
>If there is the tiniest ray of hope here, it is that the Regime is playing this Terra card WAY earlier than they originally planned. That means they are in much more trouble politically than our TVs will tell us!<

The polling information, according to Josh Micah Marshall, was abysmal. Don't let the "approval" number fool you. It's the "reelect" number that's making the *ies hit the panic button. They are long past political trouble; they've lost whatever shreds of credibility they might have had.

Basically, we join hands and hang on. Five more months and a few days. We must have turnout at the polls that overwhelms every community in the United States.

IMHO,
Julie
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #48
74. Poppy Bush told Matt Lauer today that he is "sure" W* will win.
It was creepy enough to hear him say this--he absolutely refused to entertain the possibility that his son would lose--but if Josh Marshall is right and the poll numbers are even worse than the quite bad numbers we are seeing on TV now, it's even creepier.

None of the cabal is giving up on the manufactured image of a triumphal * sweeping into a second term. This is either crazy or part of the set-up for another election theft. Or both, probably.

I too am very worried about the lengths * will go....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:54 AM
Response to Reply #7
16. "bushco is planning attack number two" I agree.
A cornered rat is very dangerous.Something big will happen.:nuke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
33. I've never thought the election mattered to them.....
...only holding power.

:tinfoilhat:

Never put my Reynolds Wrap away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
66. I've wondered about this myself...
they may have already lost it, and realize it

Recent events look like a "take the money and run" strategy. Bush/Cheney are oil executives and the Bush family is into oil big time, so, jack up the price of oil as much as possible. Lose the election? Who cares! How much more money will go into big oil in the next 6 months or so with the price up 40 cents a gallon or more now?

Iraq War gone badly? Lose the election? Who cares! They lied us into it anyway, so how many deals can be cut between now and January 2005?

Unfair tax cuts that favor the wealthy at the expense of the poor? Lose the election? Who cares! How much more money did Bush et al make with the cuts of 2001/2002.

Piss-poor health/environmental/worker conditions? Lose the election? Who cares! How much money did BushCo make in neglecting these areas in the last 3+ years?

Sure, Bush will lose the election...But he'll be laughing all the way to the bank, his first stop after leaving the White House in January (Hell, I'll wager he even votes for Kerry!).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. This administration are criminals.
If they lose the elections, meaning the White House and both housed of Congress, they know the investigations into the corruption will be non stop. Can you say War Crimes? Crimes against Humanity? How about High Treason? Life in Prision. I knew you could.
Four year olds will be able to correctly pronounce those words in the coming years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:45 AM
Response to Original message
8. my take on things
there will always be

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:58 AM
Response to Reply #8
20. Sadly only toooo.....
true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paranoid_Portlander Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
50. Green sheep?
Why are the sheep green?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:50 AM
Response to Original message
10. the waiting
I think it would be extremely foolish of the Bushies to create another attack on the US.

The true terror comes not from an attack, but from the THREAT of an attack. If an attack occurs, there will be a massive panic, but there will also be a strange sense of calm: it is no longer a mental manifestation of everyone's worst nightmares, but a definite event with a specific time, place, and action.

It is so much easier to terrorize an entire nation by creating the fear of an attack, than through actually orchestrating an attack.

With just a general threat, every place in the nation is a possible target, but if something happens to, say, Los Angeles, then people in Detroit, for instance, won't be as terrified as before, because "The Attack" has happened somewhere else.

If they're smart, the Bushies will just continue these vague terror alerts; maybe they'll arrest some innocent, swarthy males in DC and say they're suspected of planning a terrorist attack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:53 AM
Response to Reply #10
14. if they're smart?
the 'we stopped terrorism' ploy only works so far. they see us as idiots, and they assume we'll accept any shit they throw us, we have so far.

trying to second guess these nazi idiots is a dubious excercise at best. that's what worries me the most, they ain't too smart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #10
32. Duck and cover
Yep, it's the old fear that really gets your blood pumping. Here's a quote from a Washington Post article:
"Another FBI bulletin, issued last week, urged law enforcement officials to be on the alert for possible suicide bombers. Officials were urged to take note of people dressed in bulky jackets in warm weather, clothing smelling of chemicals or trailing electrical wires, and they warned that potential bombers may be dressed in uniform or even disguised as pregnant women."

Holy Christ on a stick! Who the hell aren't we supposed to be afraid of now? Why use fnords when you live in a culture of fear anyway? Hell, lie about the weather. Nobody will actually call the lie, and if they do, so what? Who'll believe them? Afterall, we're the government. There are four lights. How many do you see?

Sorry, for a rather disconnected morning rant, but pre-coffee me and the news ain't a pretty picture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #32
35. that middle eastern looking pregnant woman has wires on her!
and she's dressed in baggy clothing, and smells of este lauder and it's 89 degrees today!!!!!!!!! shoot her!!!!!!!!! ask questions later. the main thing, attack or not, is that we are filled with dread and uncertainty. like me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #32
43. Trailing electrical wires?????
What kind of disguise is that?
It's those pregnant women that I worry about!
Maybe we should stop women from becoming pregnant and appearing in public? That would erase one possibility. Keep them at home; barefoot if possible.
Isn't that the neo-con-christian way?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:51 AM
Response to Original message
11. Saw this posted on another site...
The post suggested that Bushco should just take out a full-page ad in the NYT (or similar) saying: WILL KILL FOR VOTES
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:53 AM
Response to Original message
13. The only reason they don't do it is the Internet.
Edited on Wed May-26-04 05:58 AM by oblivious
Researchers on DU and thousands of other sites have exposed them. They thought their control of the press would allow them to get away with it. But every action, every statement, every piece of evidence has been analysed, examined, discussed, categorized and evaluated. We all have access to the truth now, if we are interested. I can't believe they ever expected this. The Internet has shaken them. Congratulations Democratic Underground. You rock!!!!

edit 1: shitty grammar
edit 2: even worse grammar (note: must stop drinking while I post)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:55 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. would that we'd had the internet after the j.f.k. murders......
we might've gotten to the bottom of the whole plot in the web, like we did 9-11.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:26 AM
Response to Reply #13
24. Also, there are people
that have been whistleblowing from the intelligence agencies, the military, the state dept, the administration. I think there is some hope in the fact that Kerry has insiders like Rand Beers, Joe Wilson and Richard Clarke advising him, and perhaps others we don't know about from inside.They seem way smarter than Bush, Cheney, Rove and the neo-cons.

And wouldn't they be more likely to fake a discovery of a big terror attack before it happened and try to look like heroes that saved lives? Of course, it would follow the same pattern as every other failed P.R. blunder and the media would balleyhoo them for a few days, their followers would crow and then the whole thing would fall apart as a big, fake, cheezy lie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:01 AM
Response to Reply #24
38. Yes, very good point. The whistleblowers are special people. (eom)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:53 AM
Response to Original message
15. The practice run was in Nevada yesterday
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:56 AM
Response to Original message
18. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:58 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. you're a funny guy
you make me laugh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:27 AM
Response to Reply #19
25. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Dont Hurt Me Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:58 AM
Response to Original message
21. Relax
You seriously need to relax, paranoid is no way to go through life. Here's a pic of my puppy to help you relax.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. that helps
thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
What a great little dog.

And welcome to DU, BTW!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thedude Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #21
52. what a cutie
That is the cutest black lab puppy I ever saw! (I have a five month old chocolate, and he's pretty cute, too).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
67. That did the trick for me!
What an adorable puppy!! I'm in love!

Welcome to DU, Don't Hurt Me! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:21 AM
Response to Original message
23. They are right the Terra-ists is here!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:39 AM
Response to Original message
28. Fear is the mindkiller...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:41 AM
Response to Original message
29. It is not al Qaeda
who is planning the next terror attack. It is Bu$hCo who is planning and running this one.

Bu$hCo needs a major distraction desperately. They need another Pearl Harbor and they need it now.

Will there be a terrorist attack in the US this summer. You bet. It's all part of the plan. The PNAC plan, that is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #29
69. Al Qaeda IS Bu$hco
Poppy's CIA trained 'em, and Uncle Jon is funding them. It's all in the family.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:47 AM
Response to Original message
30. Strange that the Anthrax Killer was never caught...
...even though he/she/them was traced to American bio labs.

- I wonder if they're keeping him around for job number two?

- If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. the anthrax murders were a threat to the democrats
several citizens died from anthrax, the same that was sent to tom daschle's office. play ball, or die, simple as that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #31
42. Right, Dashle + Leahy got anthrax letters at a critical time,didn't they?
Just as Daschle was leading opposition to the Patriot Act, and Leahy managed the debate on the bill. The House and Senate buildings were closed and the Patriot Act passed before they were reopened. Even now, the media are afraid to talk about it, it seems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:55 AM
Response to Original message
34. Propaganda: Nobody Does It Better than America
Great article re: how Hitler learned his fear techniques from America using fear, etc.



Propaganda: Nobody Does It Better Than America.

snip

One tyrant who did take American propaganda to heart was Adolph Hitler. Hitler learned to admire American propaganda through a young American expatriate who described to him, in glowing detail, how Americans enjoyed the atmosphere at football games. This American expatriate, with the memorable name of Ernst "Putzi" Hanfstängl, told the Führer how Americans could be whipped up into a frenzy through blaring music, group cheers, and chants against the enemy. Hitler, genius of evil as he was, immediately saw the value in this form of propaganda and incorporated it into his own rise to power. Prior to Hitler, German political rhetoric was dry, intellectual, and uninspiring. Hitler learned the value of spectacle in whipping up the emotions; the famed Nuremberg rallies were really little more than glorified football halftime shows. Rejecting boring, intellectual rhetoric, Hitler learned to appeal to deeply emotional but meaningless phrases, like the appeal to "blood and soil." The German people bought it wholesale. Hitler also called for blind loyalty to the "Fatherland," which eerily echoes our own new cabinet level post of "Homeland" Security.

If you study Nazi propaganda, you will be struck by how well it appeals to gut-level emotions and images—but not thought. You will see pictures of elderly German women hugging fresh-faced young babies, with captions about the bright future the Führer has brought to German. In fact, German propaganda borrowed the American technique of relying, not so much on words, but on images alone: pictures of handsome German soldiers, sturdy peasants in native costume, and the like. Take a look at any American car commercial featuring rugged farmers tossing bales of hay into the backs of their pickups, and you’ve seen the source from which the Nazis borrowed their propaganda techniques.

more

http://www.thetexasmercury.com/articles/weber/PW20020120.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:00 AM
Response to Original message
36. I hear ya, their
plan is VERY obvious. If the Democrats don't counter this fast some ugly shit is comin down. Call me a conspiracy nut if you must, but I am CONVINCED this is their strategy and it had BETTER be stopped!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:04 AM
Response to Original message
40. This terra alert is multi-purposed. The media is waking up....
They are investigating the chain of command in Abu Ghrib, and Chalabi's Iran connections. There have been news reports on both of these issues the past couple of days. Then of course there's his plummeting poll numbers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:08 AM
Response to Original message
41. Cowboys in Gas Masks
Cowboys in Gas Masks Find a Damn Good Place to Dump Used Razor Blades
by Chip Ward

At the end of a long hot day underground, the uranium miners would walk along the ore car tracks and emerge from their dank tunnels into the open light. At the mine opening there was a Geiger counter that was swung over the surfacing ore cars to get a reading of how powerful their radioactive loads were. I once listened to a former miner tell how he and his friends would turn the Geiger counter on at the end of a work day and blow on it to see who could get the highest reading from his lungs. The instrument would crackle with static as each worker exhaled hard his radioactive breath. This was done for amusement. As the only survivor of the group, he shook his head in amazement and got that thousand-yard stare as he struggled to understand his own ignorance, the sad fate of his coworkers who died young of lung cancer, and his government's complicity in hiding the danger it surely knew was there. In the 1950s and '60s, he and thousands of other uranium miners, many of them poor Navajos, were expendable. The Cold War was on and we were in an arms race that required uranium quickly, too quickly for safeguards or caution. Today, among the forty-five thousand radioactive sites in the U.S. that must be cleaned up, there are over 1,140 uranium mining sites in Utah. There is no count for dead miners. Lots More...........


http://home.comcast.net/~kknowlto/orion.htm


Rats

http://home.comcast.net/~kknowlto/index.htm#Home%20of%20WMD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
44. LOL!
Bush on his tricycle! Hahaha!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:11 PM
Response to Original message
45. I'm afraid I tend to agree. Triple October Surprise Coming
(these could come in any order, though)

October Surprise #1: The Conveniently Timed Death of Ronald Raygun (and get ready for the biggest Pravda-Fest 24/7 "Dead Soviet Treatment" like the world hasn't seen since Stalin died).

October Surprise #2: The "capture" Bin Laden

Octobor Surprise #3: LIHOP #2: The Busheviks "get" their hated San Francisco.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #45
55. This is why they're pushing Zarqawi
They need someone to be the Terrorist du Jour, preferably in Iraq, AFTER the October Surprise of the "capture of bin Laden. " They have already started the PR campaign to make him prominent in the popular consciousness.

SF? Maybe. Certainly plays into the "God lowered his protective shield around the US because of gays and the ACLU" mentality among Bush's core supporters (aka "The Insane).

I disagree with the "Dead Gipper" theory. Nancy Reagan HATES the Bush family! If they attempt to exploit her beloved husband's death for the political benefit of their corrupt clan -- she will go nuclear. And she has a lot of heavy hitters on her side to help bring them down, too. At this point, many traditional Republicans are itching for an excuse to bring down the Bushes. They're already floating trial balloons about Bush stepping down and sane Republicans resuming government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. If the Busheviks want Ronnie dead, he dies
They control the doctors, the nurse, the hospital, if worst comes to worst they can slip their own guy in there with ALLLLLL the correct ID so that no one oculd challenge him.

A shot of Potassium Chloride behind the erar produces an untraceable heart attack, so I've heard.

Ever watch "I, Claudius"? There's an episode where a Bushevik Stooge has to be "sacrificed to the mob" (Imperial Senator Rumsfeld?) and Bush is going to railroad his trial to ensure a conviction (of a crime he did anyway, but as we know, under normal circumstances Imperial Allies, then as now, are immune from the Rule of Law).

Well, Senator Piso has some damaging letters of his own, from Bunnypants, and his momma, Babs, authorizing the murder of Wellstone (Germanicus, perhaps Kennedy Jr. is more analogous). Piso shows them during his trial but his forbidden to read them aloud. He thinks he has really put the fear of God into Bunnypants*, but Bunnypants* sends his SS Men (Ashcroft) to "collect the letter where they can be placed in the Imperial Archives for safekeeping." (typical Bushevik Lie.

Thus, even though Piso KNOWS what is going on and why and that those letters are forever destroyed...he gives them over. From that moment on, his cause is lost.

Which is exactly the same mute, knowing horror that Nancy will feel when Raygun dies this October. It is a charge that WILL NOT be allowed on Corproate TV Pravda, I don't care if Nancy and John McCain are tap-dancing NAKED at the press conference!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
46. Right on the button, mopaul
They've always had a plan - notice how unworried the Bush Regime is about their sliding poll numbers?

Just like before 9-11 when they rolled out their Far Right agenda and the moderate Repugs were freaking out. But Cheney and Bush just sat back smiling, confident, knowing they had an ace up their sleeves...

The Neo-Fascist scum who now control the Government have NO intention of losing power now. Hell, they've still got Iran, Syria and North Korea to "democratize" yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. reminded me of the Russert interview
when Bush said so confidently "I'm not going to lose"

There was something final in that. It did not have the ring of bravado, or bragging.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #49
64. Busheviks are WRONG!! They ARE going to lose - the public will see to it!
I don't believe they have the control over the military they THINK they have! (nor the CIA!) Whether they like it or not - Bushler & Co. are going to be sent packing - and all they can decide is whether they'd rather go nicely - or in flames and in prison!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:16 PM
Response to Original message
47. I fear for my family and friends back in Boston. The convention may be hit
I hope and pray that it wont but it seems that the dem convention is the most likely target.
These fucking monsters (bu$h administration),are planning on killing more Americans for their greed and power driven crusade against the brown-skinned owners of all that crude oil. These monsters need to be stopped.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
51. What and where?
Given the prevailing winds of the summer a bio attack could take out much of chimp*s base, if an attack were to come from the gulf. An attack on the democratic convention would take out the opposition, but smell to high heaven.
Some kind of bomb, nuclear or otherwise, or bio would have to come in the fall, when the weather pattern switches. Some kind of devise set off in the Northwest would take out a liberal base and travel east accross the country.
I'm not putting anything above these bastards, absolute power is what the want.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
53. Right there with you
I am totally unable to sleep at night. Feel like I am constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:02 PM
Response to Original message
54. Today's press conference demonstrated it
One of the talking points was that Al Qaeda wishes to disrupt the American election. Because they were "emboldened" by their "success" in the Spanish elections earlier this year, having intimidated the Spanish people with the train bombing so much that they voted out their pro-Bush president. (Spain is the new "France")

(They kinda fudged things here -- what blew it for Aznar is that he was caught lying to them about who the perpetrators were -- not because the Spanish are cowering before terrorists)

Message -- Americans must not make this same mistake, and must stand resolute behind our President. Al Qaeda is TERRIFIED of Bush, and is doing everything they can to make sure that he is not (re)elected. They want an appeasing pussy like John Kerry in the office, who will stop peeing submissively only to hand over our nation to them, lock, stock and barrel, so they can realize their plan to establish a homosexual Islamic Communist government in the US. That's the message they want us to get out of the terra dog and pony show of today.

You have to read these guys the same way that "Kreminologists" used to read the USSR -- between the lines, and what they don't say.

The fact that they say these planned attacks are to disrupt American elections tells me that something is indeed planned, or planned to LIHOP.

Up to now, the Flying Monkeys have crowed that "No attacks on American soil since Sept 11, thank to His Chimperial Majesty." But -- without vaporization looming over us daily -- all Bush has left to run on is No Gay Marriage. So he NEEDS Al Qaeda to strike the US the way a dead man needs a coffin. The FLying Monkeys will then turn 180 degrees (but don't call it a flip flop -- Bush just flops, don't you know) -- and will chant "This proves we need to have this popular war time president in office for four more wars, I mean years."

I don't buy it that Al Qaeda gives a shit about American elections. Their agenda operates in an entirely different scheme of things, and is simply murderous, not politically motivated. Now, Mossad on the other hand, they do operations to achieve a certain political agenda....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. Notice how a terrorist attack is supposed to ensure W's election?
I recall overhearing a client of ours say that if there's another terrorist attack, Bush will remain in the presidency.

Why, please? Why is that a given? If two major terrorist attacks occur on American soil during his watch, even with wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, why is that a sure thing for Bush?

Yes, I know people are supposed to rally round the president. But some may feel he sold us a bill of goods.

And if the terrorists attack, it's to affect our elections, so we'd better vote for Bush. No one quite comes out and says that (although I'm sure someone has). But the idiotic remarks made after the Spanish election -- i.e., the equivalent of "Voting for the Bush ally ensures the terrorists don't win!" -- drove me crazy.

And as for the level of fear, yes, I feel it too. My worst fear is that someone will go after a chemical container of some kind and start Bhopal II in this country. The casualties could easily hit the hundreds of thousands, and perhaps worse than that.

But of course Bush wants VOLUNTARY safety measures for those who store, manufacture, and transport chemicals. :mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. Did you hear Bill Schneider (yuck) on CNN today?
He was going on and on about how a terrorist attack would DEFINITELY insure Bush's re-election. He had very scant evidence, just a lot of unsubstantiated B.S. There was no question, so you'd better shut up, take your terrorist attack, it's good for you, and vote to "re-elect" the Shrub. Supposedly because it was almost three years since 9-11 that Shrub's numbers came down to earth, that was convincing to Schneider that it would be the same thing again. What a lying sack of shit he is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. PNAC puppet
don't pay attention to him <fingers in ears>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
57. I'm right there with ya
And I never even had any paranoia pills. Don't want any either. I liked the red pill and I'd never choose otherwise. You should be able to rest easier if you think about how these things have been going on forever, to a lesser degree admittedly, and how no matter how hard we work, this fight (for liberty) is one requiring eternal viligance. Yes, their crimes are horrible and tragic. Yes, they'll most likely commit more. But we will overcome one day. If for no other reason than there are more poor people in the world than rich. :)

Anyone read the "Interesting Day" timeline of 9/11 events? Did it seem as if they were just about offering bush up on a plate? Why was Cheney spirited away and bush left hanging for hours?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
58. true
so true
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. They would need the military to declare martial law and I don't
think the military is feeling like they want to go along for any more rides with these lunatics. I do understand the feelings.
I have felt like the person in the Soylent Green movie tearing around
screaming soylent green is peeeeeeeeepullllll!!
Many people who told me I was overreacting agree with me now. I keep thinking look what they did to take power, what won't they do to keep it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #59
65. If there was to be another attack
I have thought of who or what would be the target of most benefit to Bush.....thought about the RNC convention in NYC - but that would go negative for Bush as being unable to protect America. Thought about the WW2 memorial service, but that does not really do it for me as Bush would still be given a negative light.

Tinfoil firmly in hand, I would wager that IF another attack were to come it will be somewhere there are allot of people, somewhere on the continental US....the DNC convention.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. I worry about the convention in Boston as well
and I expect they'll try to time it in a way to get Kerry (another plane crash would be way too obvious) - leaving the Democrats in disarray.

I see this playing out one of two ways.

1) A scenario where they kill as many people as possible as horribly as possible, declare marital law and try to cancel the election -though that could really backfire on them.

2) They stop the "terra-ists" in the nick of time - maybe at the Democratic National Convention and prove they've made America safer. This is the scenario they could fool a lot of people with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #59
70. we lived though the burn out of Nixon's regime, that summer wondering who
was in charge (Alexander Haig now claims, it was he) and worrying about a military take over, martial law (applied by the falling prez), Nixon refusing to leave the WH?, etc, etc.

It may very well be worse with this flame out. In that event, I hope our systems hold the line. And, y'know, I believe they will.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
72. Ready to slice my wrist!
I to am depressed and contemplating suicide. O8)

But I figure if I made it through Y-2K (which was a joke), then I can make it through this too.

I'll chalk it up to be just another joke.:beer:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC