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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:17 PM
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Even the founding fathers new This Experiment would be corrupt
We have begun to peak, soon it will be downhill. Seems like george washington is nearly identical to Leo Strauss (neo-con father)

Though, when a people shall have become incapable of governing themselves and fit for a master, it is of little consequence from what quarter he comes.

George Washington (Letter to Lafayette, 1788)

. . . the powers reserved by the people render them secure, and, until they themselves become corrupt, they will always have upright and able rulers. I give my assent to the Constitution ....

John Hancock (Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788)

. . believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.

Benjamin Franklin (In the Framing Convention, 1787)

With money we will get men, said Caesar, and with men we will get money. Nor should our assembly be deluded by the integrity of their own purposes, and conclude that these unlimited powers will never be abused, because themselves are not disposed to abuse them. They should look forward to a time, and that not a distant one, when a corruption in this, as in the country from which we derive our origin , will have seized the heads o! government, and be spread by them through the body of the people; when they will purchase the voices of the people, and make them pay the price. Human nature is the same on every side of the Atlantic, and will be alike influenced by the same causes. The time to guard against corruption and tyranny, is before they shall have gotten hold on us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered. (Emphasis added.)

Thomas Jefferson ("Notes on the State of Virginia," 1782
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:07 PM
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1. The Second Amendment is the Founding Fathers' answer to Bush & Cheney
Seriously. They knew tyrants might emerge to rule the country someday. Hence they reserved for the people, the power to take matters into their own hands.

I wonder how many other people realize this?
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ColdWarZoomie Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:39 PM
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2. Wow
Was just mentioning this to a coworker the other day, that the only thing that can destroy our Constitution is when we let the knuckleheads in Washington do it. Or worse, tell them to take away our liberties for more safety.

I think we're finally waking up as a nation to the nonstop fearmongering of this administration.
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