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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:16 AM
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“Nick Berg” is the No. 1 internet search
Edited on Sun May-23-04 10:16 AM by FreakinDJ
According to MSN. A quick Goggle search of Nick Berg will show these the No1 and No. 3 sites. It is quite possible the average American is learning to ask questions if this is being revealed to them.

Bad news for the Bush administration


No.1

Nick Berg's Killing: 50 Fishy Circumstances, Contradictory Claims ...

13) Wag the dog timing

15) Orange jumpsuit

16) No blood at decapitation

21) Chair

35) White hands of "terrorists"

42) Gold ring on killer's hand

45) Firearms Israeli, not AK-47s

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/15/22827/0477


No. 3

Rense.com

Arab linguists have said the man posing as the Jordanian Zaraqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect

As any surgeon will testify, the alleged beheading was a fake.

The orange jumpsuit was standard US military issue to men in custody

Several of the men in the film were fat by Iraqi standards. Some men had what can only be described as pasty-white hands.

More

http://www.rense.com/general52/anom.htm
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:33 AM
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1. Good article, if not scary...
Yipes. No work in America so he buggers off to Iraq. Couldn't get any there either despite there being an obvious need for it. That alone is fishy.


What really struck me were these points, especially #45 and #50:


1) A Jewish man and U.S. citizen traveling alone in Iraq?
Why did a private Jewish American citizen choose to wander around Iraq by himself? He also had a passport stamp from Israel - very unsafe to travel with.


2) Berg wanted to return home
In his last email on April 6 to his family, Berg stated he wished to return home as soon as possible. The FBI claim he refused an offer of help to get home (perhaps because of danger to get to airport).

4) FreeRepublic website listed the Berg business as an "Enemy of the State".
Nick Berg's father, Michael Berg, signed an anti-war petition online and included the business name. (Note that Nick Berg himself was pro-Bush and pro-war.) This occurred a week before his son's second departure to Iraq. As a result of this statement the Berg business was put on a right wing enemies list. The FreeRepublic website listed the Berg business as an "Enemy of the State." This may have been linked to the thre visits by the FBI during Nick Berg's containment by the Iraqi Police and then presumably by (or under supervision) of the US Military.

11) Berg is killed before torture photos released but video tape refers to photos?
To quote "Fishy Circumstances and Flawed Timelines Surround American's Beheading)":
"me and a friend were discussing recent news events and trying to piece together the information presented to us, thought you might want to look into this further, they said in the news that Nicholas Berg was killed 2 weeks ago (i think), however in the video the culprits who killed him said they were "avenging iraqi prisoner abuse" but those photos weren't released until last week, so my question is how is that even a possible motive if he was killed prior to the abuse photos being released?? maybe i am misinformed but thought id ask the question to someone who would look into it."

12) Text with video mentions "shameful pictures"
The text posted to the website along with the video the translation of the Arabic statement, cites "shameful pictures." Here is a translation of the Arabic statement (at the Northeast Intelligence Network) made with the video: "And the shameful pictures and the news of the evil humiliation of the Islam people men and women in Ghareb 's father prison then where the jealousy and where the zeal and where the anger about the Allah's religion and where the jealousy for the Muslims sanctities and where the revenge for the honors of Muslims and Muslims is in the crosses prisons."

Points #16 #19, #25, #27. (they go into graphic details...)

36) Wrong accent
Al-Zarqawi is/was Jordinian. Arab linguists have said the man posing as Al-Zarqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect. Others have suggested the man reading the written statement may not have been a native speaker of Arabic.

39) Al-Zarqawi's missing leg
Al-Zarqawi was missing one leg. Al-Zarqawi allegedly wears a prosthetic device, according to previous CIA reports. (See: IHT Protrait of Al-Zarqawi.) There is no evidence that the killer wore a prosthetic device. Further, Al-Zarqawi had been outfitted with an artificial leg that did not fit or function properly. He was unable to walk or stand normally. No man in the group showed evidence of such infirmity.


40) Missing tattoos?
Large green tattooed "dots" are known to be on the back of Abu Musab Zarqawi's left hand. These tattoos cannot be seen in the close up video of the execution, though the back of his hand is fairly visible. (See: IHT Protrait of Al-Zarqawi.)


41) Al-Zarqawi dead?
Numerous indigenous sources have said Al-Zarqawi was killed by a US helicopter attack months ago when he was unable to move quickly enough to escape the targeted house. While others managed to exit the house in time to survive, he died in the collapsed building.

42) Gold ring on killer's hand
The man in the videotape who is purported to be Zarqawi seems to be wearing a gold ring. Note: This is a questionable point. To quote Healing Iraq (healingiraq.blogspot.com) as quoted at this angryfinger.org post (Nick Berg Conspiracy Theories Abound): "Islam does not specifically forbid that men wear gold, in fact the Quran and the Hadith have encouraged men to 'adorn' and 'embellish' themselves (dying hair, perfume, etc.) .... the practice of wearing gold ornaments is discouraged by Muslim clerics, "Gold is the ornament of women". Socially it is not acceptable in the Arab world for men to wear gold, although this has changed lately and many young men do (engagement and wedding rings are mostly gold)."

43) Why anonymous?
Al-Zarqawi's face is very well-known. If Al-Zarqawi was the perpetrator, why did he bother to cover it the whole time? If Al-Zarqawi is trying to build a resistance movement, why did he not uncover his face at some point? (If it was another terrorist impersonating Al-Zarqawi, why is the CIA identifying the voice as Al-Zarqawi's?)

45) Firearms Israeli, not AK-47s
Firearms experts have stated the AK-47 carried by one man was a "Galil." This actually is an Israeli-made weapon that improves on the famous AK- 47. Feyadeen and other insurgents use AK-47s.

50) Berg's family was not allowed to view the body of Berg on its arrival to the U.S.

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:39 AM
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2. I wonder why Democratic Underground not on the list
Is our data base unavailable to the Goggle Bots. I went back 6 pages on Goggle and never saw it. According to internet marketing research if your not in the first 3 pages you do not exist
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