Sarin gas shell...any news yet...?

[imax2268]

I have been looking but it seems that the story has fallen off the radar..well...all except for Faux News...they have seem to be the only one to say that it was definetly Sarin and that more was found...I haven't heard a thing from any other source...

What is it about the other networks not saying anything...are they waiting for something more substantial so they don't get burned again...?

What about new reports for it...I have been googleing like crazy and keep coming up with junk...

anyone know something new...?

[tandot]

1. probably stuff that the US sold them in the 80s. n/t

[Yavin4]

2. Lack of News Means That It Probably Wasn't Sarin Gas

If it was indeed Sarin gas, the Bush admin would be hyping the story 24/7.

[tom_paine]

5. Bing! Bing! We have a winner!

[lovedems]

3. Flipping through the channels last night I heard Scarbourough crying

that "nobody cares about the Sarin gas story, why don't people care about that story". That was all I could stomach and had to keep channel surfing.

[nonews]

4. Sarin

Heard one General on one of the stations say that these were color coded and there is a possibility that up to 550 were made. Probably left over from the Gulf War 1991.

[kentuck]

6. How friggin' long does it take to test it ??

Are we supposed to just forget about it. I want to know.

[Roon]

7. here you go

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=1873574

[Mistress Quickly]

8. from that story:

>>> In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era. <<<

well, d'uh

[imax2268]

9. yea...

I noticed that to...

It just seems weird to me that not many news outlets are talking about this...except for Faux...but we all know what their agenda is...!

[kentuck]

10. If that is true, what is the shelf life for sarin ?

Anybody know?

[JM]

11. Not that long

Sarin, as I recall, breaks down rather quickly in heat. That makes it not exactly an ideal weapon for places like the Middle East most of the time.

I guess we were under threat in the US from sarin filled mortar shells, eh George? I'd like to see the size of that mortar.

JM

[imax2268]

12. from what I have heard

it has a shelf life of 5 years...but that's just what I have heard...

[Mistress Quickly]

13. As individual liquids

the shelf life for a binary artillery shell is a long time, and is very stable, hence why the artillery shells are made that way. The are also safer to handle and store.

It is some type of organocompound in one side and isopropyl alcohol in the other seperated by I believe glass which would break when the artillery shell was fired, mixing the 2 liquids and becoming sarin, which would then explode overhead, not on the ground, aerosoling the liquid and spreading it further.

It was still a threat to people. The only reason it didn't expose the soldiers any more was the fact the 2 compounds exploded apart, and didn't mix.

http://www.stripes.com/mideast/graphics/binary.html

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/sarin/basics/facts.asp

[kentuck]

14. How did the two compounds "explode apart"???

Were there two explosions in one artillery shell?? Explain.

[Mistress Quickly]

15. when the shell

exploded, the 2 liquids went everywhere, as explosions tend to cause them to do, and only where they mixed (hit each other in the air, or landed together on ground, etc) did sarin form, as opposed to in the artillery shell, where the 2 are mixed together in an enclosed space, and the sarin is waiting to be released by explosion, so it is all sarin, not the 2 components seperately possibly mixing in the air or on the ground.

See the link I provided on binary artillery shells. It has a good picture.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

16. Just to be clear...

regarding eye's post, the sarin is actually created when the shell is fired from an artillery piece. Since this shell was never fired, the initial shock which creates the sarin was absent.