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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:30 AM
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What does John Kerry stand for?
I have been contributing to John Kerry's campaign all along, but when the press quoted Kerry as saying I would consider appointing judges that were anti-abortion as long as Roe V Wade would not be overturned, I have to shake my head.

What DOES JOHN KERRY STAND FOR?

That is the dumbest statement I have heard. Is John Kerry going to appoint judges who are "bigiots" as long as the civial rights act is not overturned?

He had better get his act together on this one, or he does not deserve to be president.

I have so far contributed about 600 dollars to his campaign. I will not make further contributions until Mr. Kerry stands for something.

Right now I am seeing very little difference between bush and Kerry

What a jerk!
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:37 AM
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1. He is against the Vietnam War.
I know that for sure.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:41 AM
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2. He is taking our votes for granted
He believes that people are so much anybody but bush they will vote for him no matter what.

I have been a life-long moderate Democrat, and now I am having serious thoughts about Kerry.

He better not take my vote for granted
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:42 AM
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:45 AM
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4. Not if he appoints judges who are anti-abortion
there is no difference. I will be calling his office tomorrow for a clarification. I am deeply disturbed by this comment...
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:17 AM
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5. He will not nominate any anti-choice judges to the Supreme Court
as listed off of his website
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/

Only the Supreme Court has the authority to overturn the right to abortion, so this will effectively safegaurd the right to choice. * on the other hand is all but gauranteed to nominate an anti-choice judge, so Kerry has the exact opposite of *s stance on judicial appointments. All he said was that he would "consider" anti-choice judges at lower levels where they're political biases can't cause much harm, and to be honest I'd be suprised if he does anything more than just consider them. I agree with you in that he should use a political litmus test on abortion for all of his judicial appointments, but it's extremely unfair to Kerry to say that there is no difference between he and * on this issue.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:20 AM
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7. especially when there is a record on abortion rights out there of his
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:19 AM
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6. have you ever taken a political science class ?
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:28 AM
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8. What do you mean - what a jerk?
Kiss my ass...

He is against tax breaks for the wealthy...

He is for alternative fuel methods...

He is for regaining the advances made under the Clean-Air act...

He is FOR a balanced budget...

He is for accountability in goverment...

He happens to be against the Bush* doctrine of declaring war against any country he feels like...

He would most likely choose his advisors which do not include PNAC gloabal domination sorts...which happen to have the nasty fall-out of engaging us in peretual war...

He would engage the rest of the worl in a normal sort of discourse - not the the "you're with us or you're against us" mentality...

Having said that, I am going to bed...make up your mind based on the facts...
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:33 AM
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9. do you have a link for this?
it seems like a very un Kerry thing to say. he has never, to my knowledge, wobbled on choice.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:35 AM
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10. The National Anthem
Sorry...couldn't resist any longer.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:07 AM
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11. why start another one
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:09 AM
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12. truth, justice and the american way n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:16 AM
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13. no judge throughout u.s. opposed to abortion
silliness. saying these people none of them can be just in handing out judgement for zillions of different crimes that has nothing to do with abortion. anyone really suggesting that kerry not hire a judge to sit in traffic court because he opposes abotrion. sounding discrimitory

i say good for kerry for being balanced and reasonable
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:22 AM
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14. I kind of agree with this
Let me say this at the front; I oppose Abortion. I don't think people should have abortions (partially for religious reasons and partially because as an adopted child with adopted siblings, I can't help personalizing the issue).

But the question from a legal standpoint is whether or not I believe that the law should be used to stop people from having abortions. I don't. I think people shouldn't have abortions, but I don't think the law is the proper mechanism for preventing people from having them.

Does that make me a "bigiot?" Should that disqualify me from sitting on the bench (although, to be fair, I have no legal background whatsoever, adn would make a terrible judge).

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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sus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:28 AM
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15. yes, it should disqualify you.
because that means you see women as third class citizens.

if you think that you or anyone else are more qualified than the woman involved to make her reproductive choices, at that point, the fetus centered debate makes the woman subservient to the potential life she is carrying.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:35 AM
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16. OK
So let's unpack this.

1. I specifically said I didn't thier should be legal obstacles to a woman getting an Abortion.
2. I did say that that I think having Abortions wrong.

Therefore I am setting myself up as the person who would tell women what they should do with their bodies.

hmmmm. Yes, I guess so. Let's apply this logic in other situations.

1. I oppose laws restricting freedom of speech. I also oppose boycots designed to silenc people's right to speak.
2. I believe that people shouldn't use their speech to tell lies.

Therefore I am setting myself up as the person who will tell individuals what they should do with their power of speech. Interesting.

Let's try one more.

1. You presumably would be opposed to laws set up to control what I am allowd to think.
2. You think that I am wrong to hold my opinion on Abortion; that I should not be allowed to hold a judgeship because I don't like abortion.

Therefore you are setting yourself up as the person who will regulate what people should be allowed to think.

Does anybody under stand the difference between feelign that people shouldn't do something and feeling that people shouldn't be allowed to do something?

Bryant
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sus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:54 AM
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20. I see what you're saying.
So you would protect Roe v. Wade even though you're prolife?

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:59 AM
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21. Well, I don't know what you mean by protect
I woudl uphold it, though.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:38 AM
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17. He said he would "consider"
I find that statement refreshing. He is keeping an open mind. He is not locking himself in a box of any sort. He is very smart. Notice he did not say he would appoint a anti abortion judge just consider one. Smart fellow. He is trying for everyone's vote and not just us left-wingers.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:46 AM
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18. Quote - John Kerry " I voted for Judge Schelera"
Edited on Thu May-20-04 09:58 AM by nomaco-10
Link taken from LBN yesterday from MSNBC. Read it and weep.

Sorry, I can't get the link to work. It's in LBN and is still on the front page.


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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:48 AM
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19. improving the health care system(really), equiltable tax system
enforcing environmental regulations
social justice among all
halt corporate graft
accountable government officials
open debate of national issues
genuine improvement of security against terrorism
honesty about war costs and benefits
protection of civil rights against the assaults of terrorism
support of law enforcement instead of after the crime mob justice
investing in education, infrastructure, medical research, alternative energy sources, the human potential

waging peace and not war, make the human stuggle a challenge to lift our spirits and our civilization to its potential as a just and benevolent society, that knows its power, place, duty and ability to excerise restraint by not flaunting our wealth and force especially among the poorest and weakest of the world.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:02 AM
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22. you better start trashing NARAL
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=5&u=/ap/20040520/ap_on_el_pr/kerry

Leaders of the abortion-rights movement said they will continue to support Kerry over President Bush , who supports abortion only in cases of rape or incest or when a woman's life is endangered.

"There's a huge difference between Bush and Kerry on choice and this is not going to undermine the pages-long documentation that Kerry is pro-choice," said Elizabeth Cavendish, interim president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.

Gloria Feldt, president of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, which has endorsed Kerry, said, "I'd like to hear him use language that is stronger."
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