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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:53 PM
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9/11 panel says too many documents are being stamped secret

WASHINGTON -- Too many routine government documents are being stamped secret, say leading members of the 9/11 commission, which is preventing the public from learning about all the warnings and information they may need to protect themselves.

Thomas Kean, chairman of the commission, said most of the secret documents he has reviewed for investigating the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001, have been reports of hearsay or information publicly available elsewhere, and so weren't true secrets anyway.

"Three-quarters of what I read that was classified shouldn't have been," the Republican former New Jersey governor said.

Kean said the panel, appointed by the president and formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, is winding up its hearings and beginning to work on recommendations it will make in a report expected in July. The panel holds hearings in New York next week to reconstruct a timeline of exactly what happened on Sept. 11 and to get recommendations for what the country needs to do in the future from Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:08 PM
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1. I sure hope the National Media picks this up!
It's been stated EVERYWHERE that this admin. is the MOST secretive ever! In John Dean's book, he said that again and said "if you feel you have to keep everything secret, just what are you hiding?

It was in our local paper that Rudy Guliani (sp) is also scheduled to testify before the 9/11 committee on Wed. in NY. The article I read was guessing Rudy, under oath, might have to testify against the admin. about whether he was notified about the threats against NY buildings that Shrub received prior to 9/11.

I assume C-Span will broadcast this hearing live.......I'll be watching!
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:17 PM
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3. Nineteen questions for Mayor Rudy Guiliani
Dear 9/11 Commission,

Please ask former NYC Mayor Rudy Guiliani the following
questions as requested by the Family Steering Committee.

1. A few short weeks after 9/11, tons of metal from the
collapsed twin towers was sold to scrap yards in New
Jersey. Thereafter, the steel was re-sold to other
recyclers in the United States and overseas. Anecdotal
evidence suggests that the scrap has ended up in
India, Japan, South Korea, China and Malaysia.

It is the FSCs position that the thousands of pounds
of debris was crime-scene evidence. It should have been
examined, catalogued, and stored in a secure location.

Why were the steel beams sold and shipped overseas and
not retained as evidence? Was the material examined
before it was sent overseas? If examined, then by whom?
Were any diagnostic studies/tests performed? If not,
then why? Whose responsibility was this?

Former FBI Acting Director Thomas Pickard said that the
FBI wanted to take over Ground Zero and make it a crime
scene as was done at the Pentagon. If that had occurred
all materials from the scene would have been protected
until an investigation was complete. Pickard also
stated that you, Mayor Giuliani, would not allow the
FBI access to the pit area. Is this accurate? If so,
then what was your reason for keeping the nations
chief investigatory teamthe FBI, out of Ground Zero?

2. On 9/11, rooftop doors to both of the World Trade
Center towers were locked. Thus, rooftop rescue by
helicopter was impossible. Who made the decision to
lock the rooftop doors? When was this decision made?
Why was this decision made? Whose responsibility was it
to communicate to the building leaseholders and
occupants that rooftop doors would be locked in the
event of a catastrophe and/or emergency? Did locking
the rooftop doors violate New York City or New York
State building codes?

3. Firefighters lost their lives on 9/11 due to faulty
equipment, such as radios. These were the same radios
that failed in 1993. Who was in charge of buying and
testing equipment for the firefighters? During your
administration were there any requests by either the
NYPD or FDNY to increase budget appropriations for
emergency apparatus such as radios?

4. Many high level officials were warned not to fly
commercially, prior to 9/11. Were you warned not to fly?
5. As Mayor of New York City, did you interface with
either the FBI/NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF)
or the FBIs Bin Laden Unit from January 2001 to
September 11, 2001? If so, what was the extent of your
communications with them? What actions, if any, were
taken on behalf of your administration at the request
of the JTTF or the Bin Laden Unit?

6. What precautions were put in place after the 1993
WTC bombing to protect the citizens of New York City
and the occupants of the WTC in the likely event of
another attack?

7. After the 1993 bombing of the WTC, what, if any,
measures were taken to ensure that in the next
emergency, the evacuation of the WTC occupants would be
swifter, more methodical, and more decisive?

8. What "Memorandums of Understanding,"(MOUs) if any,
were in effect between the PA of NY&NJ, the City of New
York, the FDNY and any other emergency agency that
would address the need to respond to an emergency at
the WTC? What legal implications, if any, did these
MOUs have? If they had no legally binding effect, then
for what purpose did such agreements exist?

9. What, if any, emergency plan did the City of New
York have in place prior to and/or on 9/11, considering
that NYC was a "prime" terrorist target?

10. Why did you ask to have your records as Mayor of
New York City sealed for 25 years?

11. Was there ever a recommendation to improve the
venting of the emergency stairwells in the WTC after
the 1993 bombing and if so, was it ever done?

12. Mr. Giuliani, several members of the Family
Steering Committee attended a meeting with you in 2002
at which time you told us that you were against, and
would not support, the formation of an independent
commission to examine the events of 9/11.

Why did you oppose the creation of this commission?
Given the revelations that have emerged during
commission hearings, do you still regard their work as
unimportant and unnecessary? Do you now believe it is
beneficial to have the public well informed about the
actions of the government, its agencies and its public

13. On 9/11, no aircraft hit WTC 7. Why did the
building fall at 5:20 PM that evening? Larry
Silverstein is heard on a PBS tape saying "I remember
getting a call from the, E.R., fire department
commander, telling me that they were not sure they were
gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've
had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest
thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to
pull and we watched the building collapse,"
said Larry Silverstein, WTC Leaseholder. - PBS (9/10/02) Does
"pull" mean demolished? What do you know about this?

14. Regarding the air quality of Ground Zero during and
after the 9/11 attacks, did the City of New York at any
time carryout screenings or tests independent of the
EPA? If so, what were the results of those tests?
Immediately after 9/11 did you, Mayor Giuliani, have
any conversations with Christine Whitman about the air
quality at Ground Zero and lower Manhattan? Where are
all records of these conversations? What was the
substance of these conversations? What actions were
taken or not taken as a result of Ms. Whitmans
opinions or recommendations? Were you in agreement with
Ms. Whitmans official position to not deem Ground Zero
a superfund site? If so, what was the basis of your

15. On the morning of 9/11 Battalion Chief Pfeiffer
stated over an open emergency radio that Flight 11
hitting WTC 1 was, not an accident. At exactly what
time did you consider the City of NY under attack? Was
it before or after the second plane had hit WTC 2?

16. During the summer of 2001 what contact did you have
with the FBI/NYPD Joint Terrorism Task Force and FBI
Headquarters? Former FBI Acting Director Thomas Pickard
has said that the FBI shared all information concerning
possible terrorist threats with NYC officials. What
precautions and protocols did you enact as a result of
JTTF information? What precautions and protocols did
you enact as a result of the credible threat posed by
al-Qaeda during the week of sentencing at the Embassy
bombing trial at the Federal Courthouse in downtown New
York City?

17. Please detail all contact you had during the summer
of 2001 with FEMA. What actions were carried out at the
direction of FEMA? Specifically, what was the content
of your conversations with Mr. Joe Allbaugh?

18. Please explain the presence of the FBI at the WTC
during the two weeks prior to 9/11. Were you informed
of their increased surveillance? How was the City of
New York included in such increased surveillance? What
actions were carried out by the NYPD to facilitate the
FBIs increased surveillance?

19. Mr. Giuliani, immediately following the attacks an
after action report was ordered for the Pentagon. Was a
similar report ordered for New York City? If not, why

(copy and paste into the "to" field),,

Also, send this to media outlets you think might cover
the story. All newspaper internet links can be found at:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:08 PM
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2. "reconstruct a timeline"
why bother?

paulthompson already did that!
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