need help with a protest sign

[kispoko]

chimp is coming to my town tomorrow, my neighborhood really, and i'll be joining the others in making them feel unwelcomed, which they are....


i'm going to be making some signs and passing them out to those who've come empty-handed..... one of them will list the number of dead american soldiers, the number of casualties, and then the number of murdered iraqi civilians. at the end, it'll say, "mission accomplished?"

can anyone help me find an accurate, reliable and up-to-date listing of the number of casualties as well as american dead?
i just don't think i have one, for some reason.....


thanks

[Maddy McCall]

1. I would have one that says:

"Bush! Nick Berg's blood is on YOUR hands!

[NotHereLong]

21. right...on bush's hands...wow

That is a good one. Considering Berg was over there of his accord, been warned to get out. Granted it is a terrible thing that happened to him, but without daydreaming too hard and using the word 'if' tell me, is it Bush's fault he was there and got murdered?

[ima_sinnic]

24. hello? didn't The NEW Butcher of Bagdhad aka

"Commander in Chief" order troops, tanks, rockets, missiles, WMDs, etc. etc. into a sovereign nation that did not attack us?

Berg's blood is on his hands, as is the blood of 700+ Americans and at least 11-12,000 Iraqis, many many of whom are women and children.

If you can't see the connection, stick around and educate yourself (if you last that long).

on edit: oh, I see you were already tombstoned. figured as much anyway.

[Hubert Flottz]

27. Yes, his lies started this war in Iraq!

Yes his and Rummy's orders to disregard the rule of international law led to the things in that prison that let to this! No the election in November is not going to be close enough for the SCOTUS to steal like last time! Kiss your War pResident's ass good-bye!

EDIT}}}BTW, Bush is not here long either come November!

[Shananigans]

2. "Nobody Likes A Son Of A Bush"

That's personally my favorite!

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. *click* wrrr.rrr.rrr.rrrrr Slogan Bot Activated

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Abort Bush
Abortion laws create cannon fodder
After two years in office, he finally gets an economic policy -- and it's for Iraq!
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Another patriot for peace.
ANYONE but Bush
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Axis of Evil: Supreme Clowns, Media Whores and Darth Nader
Bipartisanship: I'll hug your elephant if you'll kiss my ass
Bombed if they do, bombed if they don't
Bravo Uniform Sierra Hotel can go Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo himself.
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Buck Fush!
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Bush Lied Soldiers Died
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Bush shouldn't be President of the United States, he should be President of the Cayman Islands.
Bush sold anthrax and VX to Saddam now our children are supposed to die to get it back.
Bush Talks: Markets Fall
Bush took an IQ test and the results were negative.
Bush turned my 401k into a 201k.
Bush wants a world war. Do you?
Bush wants to roll back the New Deal and make it the Raw Deal.
Bush's Dad Financed Saddam and Osama
Bush's Grandpa financed Hitler
Bush. War. Repeat.
Bush/Cheney: America's second choice
Bush: If you were rich and evil he would vote for you
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Bush: The Most Hated Man Alive
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Chirac, merci pour nous donner une voi
Clinton got a BJ Bush is screwing US
Dick Cheney Before He Dicks YOU!
Dissent is patriotic
Do nothing Bush sat on the Clinton plan to defeat Al Qauida and let 9/11 happen.
Do you really feel more secure in a Pentecostal police state?
Don't Arm a Son of a Bush
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Don't let King George send you home in a box
Draft Jenna!
Drop Bush Not Barney
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Dubya has a job - do you?
Dubya has a retirement fund - do you?
Elect a madman: you get madness
End World War W
Every time Clinton attacked the terrorists, the right cried "wag the dog".
Fascism: The Conservative Notion That Killing People Makes Them Work Harder
Feel Safer Yet?
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Google this: "Bush AWOL"
Google this: "Bush Hinckley Reagan dinner"
Google this: "Bush Hitler"
Google this: "Bush Knew"
Google this: "Bush Moon"
Gore was already a Vietnam veteran and a congressman when George W Bush was a drunk-driving alcoholic business failure.
Got Democracy?
Having a Bush in the White House is like having a cancer on our currency.
Heil to the Thief
How did our oil get under their sand?
How many Cayman Island bank accounts does the Bush family have?
How many lives per gallon, Mr. Bush?
I didn't order this war and I'm not gonna pay for it!
I didn't vote for his Daddy, either.
I survived the Y2K election and all I got was this lousy president.
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I voted for Gore, but Bush won the trifecta
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If Bush had stayed in baseball we wouldn't be in a war.
If I vote Republican will I get a job?
If I'd wanted to live in a fascist country, I would have voted Republican.
If Iraq is so dangerous, why did Bush go on vacation for a month this year and last year?
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If you put Bush's brain in a hummingbird, it would fly backwards.
Illegitimate Baby Bush
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Impeach Cheney First - Then His Monkey
Invest in America, Buy a Congressman
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It's the Bill of Rights, Not SUGGESTIONS
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Jack Kevorkian for White House physician.
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Jesus was a liberal Jew
Leave NO Corporation behind.
Let US lead the way to peace
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My boy's life is worth more than a few barrels of oil.
My President went on vacation and all he brought back was this lousy war.
Negotiation Not Annihilation.
NO BLOOD FOR OIL
No Dubya Dubya III
No one died when Clinton lied.
No War, No Way, No Fascist USA.
Occupation IS NOT Liberation
Oh Say can You Cease?
Oh, quit whining, Bush is an idiot, get over it already.
Old Glory Is Not A Corporate Logo
One nation under surveillance.
Operation Ending Freedom
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Our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over.
Party like it's 1984
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Perpetual war - this is the "kinder, gentler America" Bush promised?
Pick Fruit, not Fights
Power to the peaceful
Preempt war
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Question Authority
Re-Defeat Bush in 2004
Re-Elect Gore in 04
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Real Americans pay their taxes.
Resistance is Fertile.
Save the fetus, screw the children, kill the adults
Say can you see my democracy?
Select the loser as president, you get a loser president
Send The Twins!
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Smart weapons, Dumb president.
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Star Spangled Bummer
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The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The only rocket that should be going off is the one in my pants
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The poor die, the rich profit
The Road to Hell is Paved with Republicans
There is enough religion in the world for men to hate each other, but not enough to love
There you go again, repeating lies about Al Gore - why not face up to the truth about George Bush the failure?
There's Blood In Your Tank
They hate us for our freedom to kill them
Thief in Chief
Think Outside the Barrel
Vote them Out
W - that looks like a double-dip recession graph.
W = WARMONGER
Walk for peace now or run for your life later
War costs--schools pay
War is expensive, Peace is priceless.
War is NOT Pro-Life
War sucks--Ask a vet
Was it the eight years of peace or the eight years of prosperity that pisses you off?
We don't have a Democracy, We have an Auction
We impeached a president for making love. What should we do to one who makes war?"
We know why corporate raiders vote for Bush, why would you?
We need a war on greed
We used to have a surplus, Bush is in charge and he turned the surplus into a massive deficit.
Wellstone Dead. War Alive.
What has the idiot Bush boy given us, besides a new skyline in New York?
When a Bush is bought, he stays bought.
When I grew up I was told anybody could become president, now I see what they mean.
When Republicans get the finger pointed at them, they investigate the finger.
Where were you in '72? Bush doesn't remember, do you?
Who is that idiot, and what is he doing in Al Gore's house?
Who would Jesus bomb?
Why should we ask our military to die for cheap oil when the rest of us aren't even being asked to get better mileage?
Why stop at Jesus? Crucify ALL liberals!
Would you rather have a blow job or no job?
You can't spell Bush without the BS.
You've seen how much Dubya can shrink your 401-K's in just two years what he will do next?


http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[ConsAreLiars]

13. You missed one

The Bush League War on Terra
- America's Shame Forever

[T Bone]

15. Hey Bush, PULL OUT LIKE YOUR OLD MAN SHOULD HAVE !!

Recycling Works ?

[RoyGBiv]

4. Lunaville is good...

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

I don't know of any truly accurate reports of civilian casualties. There are only estimates since that information has been supressed. These estimates vary widely.

[Reverend_Smitty]

5. Fuck off asswipe

or is that too blunt :evilgrin:

[zeemike]

6. I like the question

How many kids did you kill today?

One of the chants that used to drive LBJ nuts was
Hey , hey LBJ
How many kids did you kill today?

[kispoko]

7. thanks all......

i'm gonna steal some of those.... know ya won't mind ;)

i'm also just gonna buy up a certain amount of signs, and fill 'em out, front and back for most, 'til they're gone..... hopefully others there will have put more time into it than i, but they should be good filler material nonetheless and piss off bush's ss sufficiently.


decided to tone some of the original messages down a bit.... but hey, mebbe i'll decide a bit differently tomorrow. folks shouldn't expect pg signs to respond to nc-17 problems.

[yelladawg]

8. This gets the biggest response for me.

When doing protest I found "BUSH LIED" gets a response from almost everyone.

[tinanator]

31. Bush Lied Soldiers Died

that sign had the deepest most immediate effect Ive ever seen. As soon as I got out of the car and propped it on the windshield to grab some more stuff someone pulled into the parking lot to discuss/argue it. that happened again a week or two later. No raving or screaming, no violent threats, just a very unusual reaction, giving an opportunity for interaction. Which unfortunately is when I start raving and screaming ;P
My favorite sign right now is DEMILITARIZE THE MEDIA!

[imax2268]

9. how about this...

Mr. Bu$h You Lied
People Died...

[Career Prole]

10. Here's a site...

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

[kispoko]

11. thanks again

that lunaville site was great, but not sure about the estimates of american casualties there...... anyone else know of another site with comparison numbers for that?

[Mike Niendorff]

12. keeping it short and sweet:

"LIAR."
"THIEF."
"CRIMINAL."

-----


MDN

[TrogL]

14. No War for Oil

is always a good one.

Check the links at the bottom of http://www.angelfire.com/ab/trogl/oilwar

[kispoko]

16. ahhhh

i copied the ones i really liked off that wonderful slogan list, and in doing so thought of variations and a couple other new ones....

"no more electile dysfunction: kerry in 2004"

"don't blame bush: he was on vacation"

"four more years of this shit?"


by the way, there will be a heavy police presence there.... does anyone know if it is within the law for the police to object to a sign like that last one with "offensive" language therein and force me to put it away? do obscenity laws on that vary? i'm not aware of any such laws here, but, i was just wondering what my constitutional rights are supposed to protect, regarding such speech.

[NotHereLong]

17. you people are great.

this country was born through war. war, by definition, is not pretty. thanks to the advent of ambulance-chasing journalists, this hideous ugliness of war is now just a click away. during the revolutionary war, John Paul Jones, captain of the French ship Bonhomme Richard, wrote in a letter to Ben Franklin, an account of a battle w/ a British ship, "the scene was dreadful beyond the reach of language. A person must have been an eyewitness to form a just idea of the tremendous scenes of carnage, wreck and ruin which every where appeared. Humanity cannot but recoil and lament that war should be capable of producing such fatal consequences." this is just an example to show that it is a foul undertaking.

it must be taken, to guarantee our 'freedoms' you sissies claim to be for. one of these liberties is carrying your pointless signs. (I'm guessing none of you 'protesters' are for saving trees huh?) thousands of Iraqis were killed for utterly mumbling phrases not nearly as bold as your signs are saying.

get off the couch, turn off the NBC/CBS/ABC 'news', learn the whole story and join the 'American' race. the vast majority of Iraqis still do support us. its these barbaric factions that aren't happy, and that is all 'the big 3' air as headlines. so in a way i see your confusion, but there is more to it then what they want you to see.

[kispoko]

18. yer name be appropos

so hopefully you'll be here long enough to see me tear your overwrought and ill-intentioned treatise to shit....


-this country was born through war.

wrong.... dissent was the catalyst. war was merely the follow-through. but good try.....


-war, by definition, is not pretty.

.... and? you're teetering on the brink of a logical fallacy, since the premise to that was based on faulty notions passed off as factual basis by which to proceed..... i'm not surprised.


-thanks to the advent of ambulance-chasing journalists, this hideous ugliness of war is now just a click away. during the revolutionary war, John Paul Jones, captain of the French ship Bonhomme Richard, wrote in a letter to Ben Franklin, an account of a battle w/ a British ship, "the scene was dreadful beyond the reach of language. A person must have been an eyewitness to form a just idea of the tremendous scenes of carnage, wreck and ruin which every where appeared. Humanity cannot but recoil and lament that war should be capable of producing such fatal consequences." this is just an example to show that it is a foul undertaking.

well thank-you captain obvious....

will you be showing diagrams of how gravity works next? i don't understand what point you think you're making, and that probably makes both of us.


-it must be taken, to guarantee our 'freedoms' you sissies claim to be for.

what? hey listen fella, i know my grammar is a bit colloquial, but the syntax is at least understandable.... aside from the snide, pissy namecalling, what exactly were you trying to say?..... what must be taken then?

eh....


-one of these liberties is carrying your pointless signs.

thank-you for reminding us of the overly apparent again..... look forward to more in the future, as it seems to be your specialty.


-(I'm guessing none of you 'protesters' are for saving trees huh?)

ever hear of recycled posterboard fucktard? aside from for once missing the obvious (you'll have to be demoted cap'n, but i'm sure you'll win your spot back), what's a few trees used to cut down bush, in order to save thousands more?


-thousands of Iraqis were killed for utterly mumbling phrases not nearly as bold as your signs are saying.

ah, i knew you'd win your title back..... welcome back to the fold 'nothere"andstillchampionofthealreadyhackneyed"long'.

so again, please connect your contention to something more substantive, so we can take the guess work out of what it is you're trying to say here.... thousands of americans were killed so that i *could* 'mumble phrases' and such as i will with my wittle signs.... and goddamnit, i'm going to exercise that patriotic duty, even over the self-righteousness of those who would try and lend their own skewed perspective merely for the convenience of disagreeing and the appearance of some kind of deeper relevance to their hollow words.


and besides, i've had relatives right here who couldn't even be themselves for a long time without fear..... so save your allusions to iraqis whom you don't feel any particular grief over anyway outside of what you think their plight can do for you in an argument.


-get off the couch, turn off the NBC/CBS/ABC 'news', learn the whole story and join the 'American' race. the vast majority of Iraqis still do support us. its these barbaric factions that aren't happy, and that is all 'the big 3' air as headlines. so in a way i see your confusion, but there is more to it then what they want you to see.


well thank you for trying to save me, but you're just being ironic....



and by the way, i hope this post stays and no one alerts the mods for awhile. let him be here a little longer than he thought, little shit stirrer.....

[NotHereLong]

20. mission accomplished

follow-through? hmm OK. so dissent would have won american independence all by itself. maybe if everyone got together to hold signs with stolen slogans, independence would have wondered along sooner or later.

i was trying to post a diagram to help you out, but couldnt find an icon depicting a dim-witted camel-toe, sorry.

--ever hear of recycled poster board fucktard? aside from for once missing the obvious (you'll have to be demoted cap'n, but i'm sure you'll win your spot back), what's a few trees used to cut down bush, in order to save thousands more?--

i find it utterly ridiculous that you can twist your 'beliefs' to fit the mood. 'oh its ok to kill some trees to make myself look like an ass, while cutting someone down to save thousands more' right. cool. totally different subject, but, now i know you wont understand this argument, but try to hang w/ me...is it not better to cut trees to keep wild fires from burning your fellow ill-informed com-padres out of their homes? and in the process use this lumber to better the lives of 'thousands'? the most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do w/ it after it is felled.


--so again, please connect your contention to something more substantive, so we can take the guess work out of what it is you're trying to say here....

ok, sorry i missed you. thought your inability to read fast would help you, but i was wrong. more iraqis were killed by Saddam then in this little war. ok, the point to my whole 'ramble' is yeah war sucks, but it had to happen. i know you've heard it before, but it is immensely relevant, what would have happened the the millions killed in germany if someone had the cajones to stand up to hitler in the early 30's? ok, same thing, hitler killed his own people for racial motivations and eventually took his tirade to the global theater, if you babies have your way we would be facing the same problem in another few years w/ this clown.

and your relatives who 'couldnt even be themselves...' i wish i could say i am sorry to hear that. maybe someday this whole nasty scare of an issue over gay-marriage will be settled. until that day they have an uphill battle. and no im not a 'religion freak' or any of that, just my own personal.

thank you for getting upset, my job is done here.

[dudeness]

26. not upset..just amazed..

what the fuck are you trying to communicate with that diatribe?

[Hubert Flottz]

28. Moran!

:puke:

[kispoko]

30. lol.....

-follow-through? hmm OK. so dissent would have won american independence all by itself. maybe if everyone got together to hold signs with stolen slogans, independence would have wondered along sooner or later.

you do know that not every nation's independence was won by blood, don't you? you do know that even many of the former british colonies, won their independence without war, don't you? you seem not to, as well as not to have any regard for history behind mere anecdotes you think impressive, in all their narrow glory.

could the colonies have gained independence in a bloodless coup? no one can be for certain, and that's kind of the point.... quit pretending otherwise.


-i was trying to post a diagram to help you out, but couldnt find an icon depicting a dim-witted camel-toe, sorry.

your mother in her stretch pants would've done it.....


-i find it utterly ridiculous that you can twist your 'beliefs' to fit the mood.

i find it utterly ridiculous you've based your argument on an assumption like that..... the only way it could possibly be construed as "twsiting my beliefs" is if i were for *no* trees being cut down for such things, and such, i hate to summarily pull the rug out from under your little point, but i'm not. i'm for responsible logging and recycling.... not everything is as polarized as you'd like to imagine in your little world guy.


-'oh its ok to kill some trees to make myself look like an ass, while cutting someone down to save thousands more' right. cool. totally different subject, but, now i know you wont understand this argument, but try to hang w/ me...is it not better to cut trees to keep wild fires from burning your fellow ill-informed com-padres out of their homes? and in the process use this lumber to better the lives of 'thousands'? the most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do w/ it after it is felled.

your ignorance of fire prevention, of which logging may, and has been due to the type often involved (e.g. clearcutting), a detriment to that, is not surprising.... would you like an explanation? or shall someone else hand you your ass at a later date when you repeat the same baseless sentiments?


-ok, sorry i missed you. thought your inability to read fast would help you, but i was wrong. more iraqis were killed by Saddam then in this little war.

so as long as we stay under that line, we're good right? so 3,000 innocent civilians in america is a tragedy that calls for worldwide outrage, but the murder of three times as many innocents in iraq is, what, 'cause for celebration for staying below the precedent?

you people are funny.... in a sadistic way


-ok, the point to my whole 'ramble' is yeah war sucks, but it had to happen.

uh, no, despite what der fuhrer tells you, that's highly debateable, and should not be treated as a given just to try and win an argument.


-i know you've heard it before, but it is immensely relevant, what would have happened the the millions killed in germany if someone had the cajones to stand up to hitler in the early 30's? ok, same thing, hitler killed his own people for racial motivations and eventually took his tirade to the global theater, if you babies have your way we would be facing the same problem in another few years w/ this clown.

given your propensity to not show any regard for iraqi lives that fall below the number saddam took out himself, excuse me if i have a difficult time believing you're even concerned about them, instead of doing free pr for the failures of the bush administration, and to cover up the lies these things were based upon.


-and your relatives who 'couldnt even be themselves...' i wish i could say i am sorry to hear that. maybe someday this whole nasty scare of an issue over gay-marriage will be settled. until that day they have an uphill battle. and no im not a 'religion freak' or any of that, just my own personal.

i wasn't even talking about gays.... but it's odd of you to make false assumptions and run with them, we haven't seen this type of behavior before.....


-thank you for getting upset, my job is done here.

upset.... lol.

thank *you* for admitting your only purpose was to annoy.... but really, we figured it out

[Hubert Flottz]

29. So why support a yellow bellied AWOL....................

A Cheerleader and a Coward?

[vajraroshana]

19. this website has some great posters to print out

and you can use them for free as long as they're not altered and still have their website url:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/galleries.htm

Good luck!

[Guava Jelly]

22. How about

Prune the Bush in 04

We dont need no stinken surplus

765 reasons bush should be frogmarched

impeach pres Cheney

Republicans and Bush fighting for a brighter past

got yellow cake

[NotHereLong]

23. Truth in advertising

How bout you carry this one:


IM WITH STUPID
l
l
l l l
l l l
l


?

[ima_sinnic]

25. what's your excuse for not being over there, "fighting for freedom"?

too cowardly?
not 18 yet?
knuckles dragging on the ground holding you up and preventing you from standing erect?
goddam chickenshit freeper would go running to mama and hide under the bed if a truck backfired outside your window.
dumbass hairy pustulating slimeball cretin.

[radwriter0555]

32. RUMSFAILED + BUSH FAILED = JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT 2005

nuff said.