Do you believe Hillary secretly wants Kerry to lose?

[ringmastery]

to pave the way for her to become president in 2008. After four more years of Bush fucking up this country, people will be desperate for a change and they will elect her, regardless of their personal feelings about her. They'll have Clinton nostalgia for the good old days.

[KittyWampus]

1. What A Novel Concept... You're Really A Deep Thinker

aren't you

:eyes:

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[trumad]

2. No I don't...

I believe Hillary want whats best for her Country.

[ringmastery]

5. I don't agree

I think Hillary wants what's best for Hillary. She's an opportunist. It's why she's stayed with her husband. It's why she's a neo-con and war hawk on Iraq.

[KittyWampus]

14. What's Your Motivation, ringmastery?

couldn't help but notice you also started a bullshit thread about how Kerry's biking is bad for his image this morning.

Oh, and a thread about prisoners using their own money to buy television sets.

hmmmmmmmmm.

[Robbien]

24. Yep. And I double your hmmmmmmmmmm. . . eom

[BurtWorm]

32. Search the archives.

Consistency. Consistency. Consistency. ;)

[Robbien]

45. Wonder why so many threads are even here

It has taken soooo long.

[BurtWorm]

46. It is kind of amazing, isn't it.

Some guys have all the luck. Maybe that li'l devil is a talisman. ;)

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[Sequoia]

15. Didn't she call Bush a "visionary" on the Dave Letterman Show

last week? Well, so was Hitler, but of the wrong vision. I don't doubt she is thinking of herself running. Why else would she be a senator from New York. Don't tell me it's because she just LOVES the good people of that state. Senators are always a good shoe-in to the White House.

[NMDemDist2]

55. John F Kennedy was the last Senator elected President,.

and John F Kerry will be the next, so being a Senator is hardly a "shoo-in" for the White House. Thanks for playing though.

[Lavalamp]

62. Entirely true

It would be more appropriate to say that Senators have a very high tendency to SEEK the office of president, but fail to obtain it.

[Toucano]

57. "Senators are always a good shoe-in to the White House."

That's completely untrue.

[Robbien]

18. Freeperville and Rush are constantly pushing this

They are constantly rallying their troops feeding on their hatred of the Clintons.

Only the rabid right even care.

[trumad]

25. WOW!

To know exactly why Hill stayed with her Husband after he made a dumb mistake...You're fucking amazing!

[loudsue]

9. I have to disagree, trumad. I wish I could believe you were right.

But Hillary has become the poster girl for the DLC. She's all about turning the party to the right ....no matter how eloquently she speaks to liberal audiences. Look at her votes, and look at where she puts Hillary above the party...or above what's best for America.

[0007]

3. It appear that you don't have the slightest idea what your saying

for if you have followed Hillary you'd know the answer to your silly question.

[DarkPhenyx]

4. I wouldn't put it past her, or any other Democrat who...

...is looking at a possible 2004 bid. My question would be if she is or isn't, so what? As long as she isn't actively trying to sabotage Kerry it is of no consequence.

[RoundRockD]

6. You must be listening to Hannity.

Dick Morris is a joke.

[LondonAmerican]

7. I'm hoping Kerry will drop out before the convention

so that Hillary can be nominated and a Democrat will win in November.

[ButterflyBlood]

13. HA! You have to be joking

n/t

[LondonAmerican]

27. Not at all

Hillary would be a _much stronger candidate_. Kerry is letting himself be defined by the Bush campaign -- Hillary has more strength of character than to let that happen.

Probably won't happen but it's something I'd like to see.

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[frank frankly]

8. you've been posting complete SHIT flamebait

why?

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[deacon]

10. no n/t

[ieoeja]

11. I don't care (n/t)

[DieboldMustDie]

12. Four more years of Bush...

and we may not have a country for her to be president of. :mad:

[bigwillq]

I agree with you

I think Hil wants what's best for this country. If her intentions are to run for the top job, I think she can wait 8 years so the country is back in shape. When Kerry turns the country around, I feel she will have an even better chance of being elected in 2012.

[West Coast Democrat]

16. Are you trying to win an award.....

for most annoying threads started in 48-hour period?

[CatWoman]

17. Before you go off on this ludicrious tanget

how about addressing some of the points raised in that dumb ass Kerry on the bike thread?

[RandomKoolzip]

19. "Kerry looks like a fool" and now this.

Are you "outing" yourself today? What is this shit?


Okay, I'll play your game:


the answer is NO NO NO NO, a thousand times NOOOO! Bullshit Rush Limbaughian Hillary-is-Sauron freeper flamebait bullshit!!!!


Any more questions?

[maddezmom]

36. "Does ringmastery secretly want Kerry to lose?'

that should be the question. :eyes:

[whistle]

20. This is Bushit....

...100%, grade A!

[Lizz612]

21. I really don't think so

Maybe you have worked with the woman, I know I haven't, but I don't think she would really want that. The "things have to get worse before they can get better, so lets make things worse" rarely works, and I think Hillary is smart enough to know that.

PS. Whats with the flamebait?

[supernova]

22. Uh, No.

it would be great if we could stop chasing our tails on this shit.

And no, Hillary doesn't sound like she wants to run for the WH when I look at her. She mainly talks about NY problems, which is appropriate.

[OneTwentyoNine]

23. Been tuning into Rush's show??

Him and I think Boortz get their rocks off dragging this crap through the mud all the time. Yep,Hillary AND Bill are trying EVERYTHING they can do to make sure the Democrats lose this time.

See...Hillary is getting way OLD according to Pigboy. She has to have her shot in 2008 or its all over but the shouting for the Clinton's.

So...Hillary and Bill are doing all they can to throw a wrench in the works of the Kerry campaign so he'll lose!!!

Gawd...and we at DU are accused of being conspiracy theory nuts by flaming RW talk show hosts?? They should listen to themselves...

David

[freetobegay]

28. No.

Understand?

[Pepperbelly]

29. what is up with you and rightie spin?

This is a Rush Limbaugh point, an O'Reily obervation, a bit of Hannity insanity.

First things first, how could any of us EVER know how Hillary actually feels about something like this? All we can possibly do is vainly speculate as though our bullshit opinions matter in what is essentially a matter of fact and one that we cannot ever know.

I am sorry but this is a goofy thread and since you apparently like idle speculation about motive, why did you post this?

Should I speculate?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

30. I think the burden is on you to demonstrate why and how if you think so

rather than game us all with the inquiry.

What specifically has she done which would lead you to believe it is so? In responding, please avoid generalities such as "everything she does is for her."

What specific things has Hilary done or said that would lead you to believe she "secretly" wants Kerry to lose?

[BurtWorm]

31. Search the archives, NSMA

and you'll find why ringmastery feels this way. ;)

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[BurtWorm]

38. Well put!

:toast:

[supernova]

39. Lemme guess

Ringmastery is secretly a disappointed Dean who lusts after Hillary. :eyes:

[BurtWorm]

43. Not quite.

The lust part may be on the money. ;)

[BJ]

34. Cal Thomas BS! Why repeat that crap here?!

[wyldwolf]

37. More Neal Boortz/Sean Hannity hardons for Clintons

...they put forth this "theory" daily.

[Cocoa]

40. echo chamber!

they were saying this crap about Clark, and now they're saying it about Kerry.

[Bridget Burke]

41. Couldn't you at least find something original?

Old & Boring Right Wing Spew...

[meg]

42. Absolutely not!!

Hillary loves our country and is not an opportunist like Republican who are me-first-at-any-cost-to-the-world-or-the-environment-or-the-health-and-livlihood-of-other-people.

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[trumad]

49. He's had one reply at the beginning at that was it...

If you're going to post something controversial at least stick around and defend it. Otherwise it's a hit and run chickenshit post.

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[Toucano]

59. Seconded! n/t

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[CatWoman]

60. and if you guys don't alert the hell out of this thread

the issue won't be resolved.

[tom_paine]

50. Only a Bushevik Bootlicking Gutless Freeper would be dumb enough

to believe that!

However, and curiously enough, I have no problem believeing that you, Ringmaster, believe that.

Connect the dots.

[AlinPA]

53. That's a Fox, MSRNC, and other RW bullshit story. n/t

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[Claire Beth]

58. nope! I do not think that. n/t

[Lavalamp]

61. No

But if by chance she did work to get Kerry to lose for her own personal gain (giving us 4 more years of Bush) you can be guranteed I will vote Green.

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[gpandas]

65. WTF? N/T

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