Shouldn't the torturers be turned over to The Hague?

[MikeG]

For prosecution for war crimes?

[kiahzero]

1. Can't be

The Hague doesn't have jurisdiction over US soldiers.

[MikeG]

2. We need to change that.

[bigtree]

4. We need to change administrations

There doesn't appear to be any quibble in America about this destructive, bloody, proxy war that the U.S. led and financed to cage the monster, Slobadan Milosevic.

But the Bush administration has shied away from judgement for its actions in that conflict, and in Iraq as well, from the very international courts they would have prosecute the former Serbian leader.

Stephen Hadley, deputy to Condi Rice, wrote in a byliner that, "The international tribunal is a threat to the United States. The U.S. has a number of serious objections to the International Criminal Court," he wrote. "Among them are the lack of adequate checks and balances on the powers of the ICC prosecutor and judges, and the lack of any effective mechanism to prevent the politicized prosecution of U.S. citizens." http://www.democracyunbound.com/hadley.html

The ICC has received more than 100 complaints so far concerning the U.S.-led war in Iraq. However, the administration successfully lobbied the Court to delay consideration of the charges for at least a year.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0728-03.htm

Me Book

[wtmusic]

8. The ICC doesn't, but we are signatories to the Geneva Convention

so yes, it does.

[RainDog]

3. Yes, along with Bush, Cheney, Feith, Wolfowitz...

Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld...

I remain in America only because I have no where else to go, but I hate what these fascists have done to what I used to consider my country.

That they are allowed to continue to remain at large, that our Congress has not already started impeachment hearings for lying about the reasons for a war in Iraq demonstrates, to me, the total collapse of democracy in America.

[ctex]

5. Even if the Hague had jurisdiction, it's unlikely they be tried there

Nations are supposed to try their own soldiers for war crimes. The Hague steps in only when a country fails to prosecute its own war criminals.

At the moment it appears the US military is going to prosecute those involved in the Abu Ghraib incidents.

[mike_c]

6. yes, they should....

In irons.

[MikeG]

7. Could someone explain to me how this shit wins over hearts and minds?