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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:11 PM
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Someone should invent a religion combining Christian, Muslim, and Jewish
beliefs. The 3 religions are more alike than different. This centuries long periodic infighting leading to genocide MUST stop. What better way than to form one religion from a fusion of the three. Any theology scholar takers out there?
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:13 PM
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1. actually
Islam IS that religion, from what I understand.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:14 PM
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3. The problem is that they feel alienated from the other two.
We need a religion that expressly states it combines the three in total harmony and peace.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:22 PM
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12. You can't. Adherents of any one will call it heresy
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:13 PM
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2. I think somebody did, and
they call it Bahai.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:28 PM
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17. werd
Yup, im a bahai. I basically believe that all religions of the world pray to the same god and any differences are man made or are distortions.

Its kinda nice to feel like i can accept the fact that someone is a different religion than me. :)

sorry for the shamless religious outpouring there!
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CoonDawg Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:14 PM
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4. just boot the whole shebang...
too many people use religion as a crutch so that they can throw up their hands, expecting an invisible boogey man to fix things...or if they stay in the crapper, it's the bad invisible man's fault.

Guess i'm pretty cynical when it comes to religion. I can say with a certainty that it has NO place in government.

JMO, of course

ErnieB
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:21 PM
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10. I basically agree, but many folks need a crutch.
Humanism is a wonderful philosophy, which I totally by into, but the masses need something more concrete to 'hitch their wagon to'.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:15 PM
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5. I got one - atheism.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:24 PM
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14. Not a combination,
but definitely an alternative.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:27 PM
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16. The Bob Dobbs Church of the Subgenius.
Bob has worked out a separate deal with God.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:30 PM
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19. Bob is just
the bastard son of Eris. And she is pissed about him making deals behind her back. Hail Eris!

Fnord!
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:36 PM
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23. Bob has slack. Very important in the Church of the SubGenius.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:56 PM
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34. Bob has forsaken the rite of the the joyous hotdog
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 09:57 PM by Az
Bob eats his hotdog with buns. This is in direct opposition to honoring the original snub faced by Eris when a bunless hotdog was her only solace. Bob has lost his way.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:59 PM
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36. Where is this Eris of whom you speak, so that I may honor her?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:16 PM
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38. Google Principia Discordia
and be amazed.

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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:08 PM
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41. Norton I, Emperor of the United States, Protector of Mexico,
Saint, Second Class

I want a little plastic Emperor Norton on my dashboard.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:16 PM
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6. Well, How About People Start Studying The Esoteric Form
of whatever religion they now profess.

You are right, they all are very much the same.

Truth is like water... transparent. It takes the color of the glass it is poured into.

All Religions see Creation proceeding from an initial state of Unity...
all of Life returning towards that state of Unity...
and the time spent in the World of Differentiation nothing more than a Dream.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:00 AM
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47. interesting....
:-)
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:03 AM
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48. Amen to that...
Less dogma (particularly textual dogma), more focus on personal experience of the divine.

-SM
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:17 PM
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7. "The need of the moment
is not one of religion, but mutual respect and tolerance of the devotees of the different religions." - Gandhi

These three religions that you mention are all branches of the same tree. If you note the line of prophets, you see that they are simply variations of the same original set of teachings. The ethnic and cultural differences cause some divisions.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:20 PM
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8. how about
less religion, more spirituality. A little more love thy neighbor, a little less smite thine enemies.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:21 PM
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9. Great plan
Then they could murder all the people who cling to the impure, outmoded and corrupt beliefs of the past. Then they could start in on the Hindus.

No thank you.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:23 PM
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13. That was not the idea behind my post.
Sorry you interpreted it that way. I think I'm just aiming at a cohesive spiritual ethic, which tolerates all mind-sets.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:32 PM
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20. I know it wasn't the intented.
Perhaps I'm being obstructively cynical. I just feel maybe it's time for people to stop making the same mistake.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:38 PM
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25. Yes, I agree with that.
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 09:39 PM by saywhat
I simply can't fanthom why humanity doesn't UNDERSTAND we're all humans, sentient beings, and united in this incredible experience called life! Man, now I really feel like crying at all the horror in the name of various religions we're seeing. And leading the grim reaper charge is our ignoble faux pResident *.
:argh:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:21 PM
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11. Skygod, Inc. ?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:25 PM
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15. Here is the problem and suggestion of a church that does do that(UU Plug)
The Doctrine of each religion is opposed to the others. They quite specifically target all other beliefs as false in some way. Even the most recent abrahamic Islam sees the other two as tainted even though it acknowledges some wisdom in them.

So if you are discarding the doctrine of these beliefs and focusing on shared concepts why stop at just the 3 abrahamic beliefs. Instead distill the wisdom of the worlds religions. Find the good in each and cherish those things.

I am reminded of the icons hanging above the Pulpet at the Universalist Unitarian Farmington Church. It consisted of the Chalice (UU Symbol) surrounded by a Cross, Star of David, Crescent and Star, Eight Fold Path of Buddhism, and the Ying Yang from Taoism. The Unitarian Universalist church is religion freed from dogma. It is dedicated to tolerance and peace.
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:29 PM
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18. Unitarian Universalism
Unitarian Universalism sounds close to what you are talking about. Actually is inclusive of other religions/philosphies as well.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:38 PM
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24. I'm a UU, if anything
the church for those who don't believe in god but wish they could and for those who do believe in god but wish they didn't. Best of all, since we celebrate all religions, we celebrate all religious holidays - every week is some new celebration - that's what religion should be like - partying and celebration not arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin,
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:51 PM
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29. Any religion
that is cool with full blown skeptic atheists has got something going on. At least thats my take on it. Fallen Catholics, mixed marriages, pagans, atheists, reformed Christians, interested noncommitteds, if you ever wanted to meet some of these people just show up at a UU church and you will get to meet them all at once.
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:25 AM
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52. I'm somewhat of a UU myself
I've gone on and off to the services for a while. It seems to me at least, what an outsider's, if he were somewhat of an idealist, view of religion would be like. It's very progressive and open.

That's my $.02

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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:34 PM
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21. Well...
Let's start with the "philosophy" of the "soul". Get rid of that implicitly meaningless concept, and we can move beyond this "religion" thing. Imagine no "good", no "evil."
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:35 PM
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22. "Imagine no religion...imagine there's no heaven"
How about that? It may include those non-christian/muslim/Jews - the world is full of them, ya know?
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Taylor Mason Powell Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:42 PM
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26. The big problem with that is...
...what would you name it?

Isludianity?
Chrislamaism?
Juslamichristaism?



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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:45 PM
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27. Unity? eom
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:48 PM
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28. A Muslim friend of mine described them
as three religions being in the same house but on different floors and none of the occupants talk to each other. That has to change.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:53 PM
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30. Abrahamic religions
The big three are all derived from the supposed house of Abraham. They all claim lineage back to this individual and the tribes that rose from his family.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:55 PM
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33. So they are really a family torn apart.
How sad, but also how symbolically correct. As long as hate, competition, and the hideous ego rule our world brother will turn against brother.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:57 PM
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35. Exactly
I thought his description was a good way of putting it. Jesus is seen as a prophet in the Muslim religion even.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:53 PM
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31. Church of Reality
http://www.churchofreality.org/

"The Church of Reality is not just a study in science. It is the Religion of Reality. As Realists practicing Realism, we make the Sacred Choices and commit to the Sacred Principles which constitute the doctrine of our church. We believe that what separates us from the animals is that we have a vast store of shared knowledge that we call the Tree of Knowledge (tree in the mathematical sense - we use a fractal as a symbol) which represents the sum total of human understanding. We contribute to the knowledge of the human race by giving freely and sharing our ideas with other. We call this Intellectual Tithing and we believe that what we contribute that is worthy of remembering is what we leave behind of us after we die. "
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:53 PM
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32. Doesn't Rev Moon believes he's the chosen one?
Unification...buy some carnations, mister?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:14 PM
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37. I consider him to be a con man.
He's devoid of ethics imo.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:57 PM
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39. So the best way to bring the three together is to have a sacred union
with offspring. Oh, but the patriarchal skygod of the Muslim, Christian and Jew has no consort. Gotta cut off his head, let the Goddess Athena jump out. Maybe her time has come.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:02 PM
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40. How about we just all worship the earth and humanity?
I know that would never happen, anyways...

I don't think combining the three more controversial religions of the world will solve much. It would just splinter out into different sects b/c elements of each always need something to be AGAINST. What I mean is they'll just create new enemies, rather than making enemies of each other. Or maybe it's enemy would be itself? I don't know.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:26 PM
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42. The last thing the world needs is yet ANOTHER religion!
How bout we all sit down and agree on some basic human laws of civilization, like don't kill or harm each other, and then leave each other the hell alone as far as religion goes.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:24 AM
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43. these religions are from the days when people thought the earth was flat
it's time for an update.

Buddhism anyone?

That's the one that works for me.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:26 AM
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45. The Abrahamic religions.
This kind of leaves the rest of us out of it, doesn't it?
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:50 AM
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46. Yeah, there are all sorts of those.
That would be Bahai for Christian, Muslim, and Judaism (or as close as you'll come).

Sikhism is kinda a cross between Hinduism and Islam.

Jainism is kinda a cross between Buddhism and Hinduism.

I mean, this shit happens.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:03 AM
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49. The B'ahai faith
Not only has the tenets of those 3, but are pacifists too.

Personally, I have no use for monotheism, and think the world would be better off with none of the above.
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YankeeFan Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:46 AM
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50. You've Read "Dune", Haven't you?
O8)
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LeftofU Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:48 AM
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51. How about we just get rid of all of them and worry about being human.
It's hard enough without all that mumbo jumbo and voodoo.
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