to which orders were you referring?
From Mineta's testimony:
Mineta: There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out.The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?"
And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. And.
Hamilton: The flight you're referring to is the -
Mineta: The flight that came into the Pentagon.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-05-23.htmWhat were the orders? The orders could not have been to shoot down, because Cheney did not have the conversation with Bush in which Cheney recommended a shoot down until nearly 20 minutes after the Pentagon was struck. And Mineta's testimony describes events
before the crash of Flight 77.
From your timeline:
After 9:56: After flying off in Air Force One, Bush talks to Vice President Cheney on the phone. Cheney recommends that Bush authorize the military to shoot down any plane under control of the hijackers. "I said, 'You bet'" Bush later recalls. "We had a little discussion, but not much."The order to shoot down the planes came AFTER the Pentagon was struck. So what is this about?
The meaning of "the orders" is understood between Cheney and the aide. The orders remain unnamed in front of Mineta. "The Orders" is clear enough for them to avoid confusion. And since confirmation was requested, it's likely they were outside Standard Operating Procedure.
The aide, who's been counting down the approach, is compelled to confirm the order with Cheney as the plane is almost upon the target, suggesting the order was extraordinary. Since nothing was done to impede the aircraft, Bush did not authorize shoot down until 20 minutes later, and Cheney said, heatedly, that the order stood, I'm inclined to think the order was to do nothing. This interpretation is, I think, supported by the aide's second guessing Cheney.
And Mr Vice President, why is it that, on May 8, 2001, you took on the post of head of the new Office of National Preparedness, to coordinate all federal programs for responding to domestic attacks? This while you were heading your energy task force, is that correct? Is this the loop which you say Richard Clarke was outside of?
Also, Mr Vice President, is it true that, on the morning of September 11, you were monitoring a CIA "simulation" of a response to planes crashing into buildings? Why did this information only leak out a year after 9/11? Is this what you people call a "limited hang out?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1298401And finally, Mr Vice President, you're fucking kidding me, right? Tell me you're fucking kidding me!