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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:21 PM
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Fairfax County election..need some help.
I seem to remember a recent election in Fairfax Couonty Virgina that had three (?) candidates all getting the same vote tally. Today, I can't find anything about it. Checked BBV but nothing there either.

Anyone got some information?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:26 PM
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1. I remember that happening in Texas
in 2002, but do not recall anything about VA. Could easily happen though.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:43 PM
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2. You sure it was Fairfax County??
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 01:44 PM by WoodrowFan
I work as an election official in Fairfax County (was the head Democrat and chief of my precinct last time) but I don't remember that happening here.

This link is for the page that has all the election results for the county since 1990. I'll let you do the looking though.
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:30 PM
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3. Then you might like this...!
Don't know if you heard it or not, but last night around 7:30 I was listening to Chris Core on WMAL. His topic, he said, was one he never considered, or ever heard there was an issue of, until he heard about Calif. saying no to touch-screen voting.

Chris moved quickly through his callers because he wanted a quick tally on his one question: "In the next election, using this technology, will you feel that the vote is accurate?"

Surprised the heck out of me because it was so lopsided. ALL OF THEM - but one - said NO! Especially without a printed receipt to drop into a lock box.

The other surprise - the only yes vote came from a woman from Fairfax County who worked on elections.

Good show, but too short. Core kept saying his lines were constantly filled.

Think the other responder is correct. It's Texas, not Fairfax.

Thanks for the reply.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:41 PM
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4. Comal County, Texas.....
You can read about it at Black Box :)

"Andy Stephenson solves small mystery with 18181"

We had not been able to find out what voting system was used in Comal County, Texas, where three Republican candidates in a row got 18,181 votes. I figured it wasn't Diebold, because I have a list of all their installations and Comal County wasn't on there.

When I called they got a little huffy and said they'd call me back; they didn't.

One of the researchers who has contributed to Black Box Voting information this year is DU's god_bush_n_cheney. This week, he put on his best native Texan accent (he is originally from Texas). He sweet-talked the Comal County elections official into admitting that those machines are: ES&S.

Now we know. He has persuaded a lot of people to open up and talk to him over the phone, and some have even sent some pretty hard-to-reach documents. Two people who didn't succumb to his charms were director of The Election Center R. Doug Lewis, who disconnected him when asked for a list of certified version numbers, and Diebold Election Systems President Bob Urosevich, who told him "If you don't back off, you're gonna get a visit."

Anyway. Now we know: ES&S machines were the 18181 anomaly, and ES&S machines were in Baldwin County Alabama where the governor's race flipped from Democrat Don Siegelman to Republican Bob Riley when 6300 still-unaccounted for votes disappeared overnight. ES&S machines were also used in Scurry County, Texas, where a landslide was declared for a Republican that turned out to be for a Democrat.

Anyone who thinks it's time to woo informants from ES&S, please raise your hand.

Bev Harris
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:16 PM
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5. I love it!!
Thanks, Bev!

Please also see posts 2 and 3 between "WoodrowFan" and myself.

What left out on my post to him was that I sent an email this morning to Chris Core at WMAL, and told him to do it again but this time - have you on as a guest. His show starts at 6PM EDT. Heres Chriss email address if you are interested:

(Note: Chris has been on the air here in DC for decades. He's a welcome breath of fresh air after 8 hours of venom from Michael Graham, Limbaugh, and Hannity. Hes actually nice to people that call him. Go figure.)
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