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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:25 PM
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http://www.25thaviation.org/johnkerry/id15.htm

Taking a look at Mr. Kerry's much-promoted Vietnam service, his military record was, indeed, remarkable in many ways. Last week, the former assistant secretary of defense and Fletcher School of Diplomacy professor, W. Scott Thompson, recalled a conversation with the late Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr. that clearly had a slightly different take on Mr. Kerry's recollection of their discussions:


"he fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me — 30 years ago when he was still CNO —that during his own command of U.S. naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets. 'We had virtually to straitjacket him to keep him under control,' the admiral said. 'Bud' Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions — but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage." And this statement was made despite the fact Zumwalt had personally pinned a Silver Star on Mr. Kerry.

The person who runs this site is named Ron Lenoard.
He is asking "If someone can pass me along something positive about John Kerry that he has done for vets, or the military I will promptly post that also , So send it in, I am all ears." So, since he is asking for your thoughts, Mr.Lenoard's email address is [email protected]
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:32 PM
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1. How convenient that
old Elmo is deceased and unable to verify those comments. Gimme a break .. I've known dozens of VN vets. NO ONE has reported that the top brass had such concerns in ANY context.

I hate it when people expect me to be STUPID.
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 06:43 PM
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2. Let me see here. Kerry got a silver star, a bronze star and 3 purple
hearts. Dumbf**k got a dental exam. WPOS.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:34 PM
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3. and failed drug tests . n/t
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:05 PM
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4. They really are so predictable.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 09:15 PM
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5. If that were true
I would think the freepers would want to appoint him their new messiah,they seem to like unabashed,bloody atrocity.

They know it isn't true,they are just smarting from their "hero" suffering a miserable defeat in the comparison of military records. They are grasping at straws and coming up empty handed.
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 10:41 PM
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6. w. scott thompson is a right wing nut
he also said, in the SAME ARTICLE, "In Kerry's case, for example, he has shown precious little interest in Asia since his tour in Vietnam, and there is little doubt that he will follow the standard Democratic party, pro-Beijing, line."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/02/11/2003098345
Maybe that makes sense to you, but it doesn't to me.
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