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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:33 PM
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Why not Draft a Gore/Clark ticket?
This team would be unbeatable. Both are wanted by the party and with both groups, why not come together and form an alliance that is for sure to win. Let me know if you would go for that ticket.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:10 PM
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1. absolutely! (nt)
:toast:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:16 PM
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2. I say not
Because I would rather focus my time and energy and dollars on people who already have declared their candidacy. I have nothing against either of those two, but they are NOT in the race. I think our energy is better spent on people who are actually running. Frankly, I think this diversion is quite destructive to throwing Bush out of office in '04.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:19 PM
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3. I worry about the candidates we have now.
I would vote for any last one of them, but I don't know if the rest of the country would. I'd feel a lot safer with a proven winner than taking a risk with someone new.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:28 PM
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6. Agree with this assessment
IT is a sideshow--plus, it's a huge gamble. If they end up refusing, they will be saying in effect that they don't think they can win this time around (as I beleive both men would very much like to be president.) What does that do to the people that are in the race?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:21 PM
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4. I'd rather have a pink elephant and Emo Phillips
Gore is a bum... I don't want his boring, censorship proposing ass in the WH.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:25 PM
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5. Well, a pink elephant and Emo Phillips wouldn't be my top choice...
...but if they were Dems I'd vote for them. :)

I'll just let your Gore remarks slide because I'm in a peaceful mood today.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:31 PM
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7. Care to elaborate
on your dislike of him and clarify your use of bum, boring and censorship proposing.

BTW, who do you like in the current field?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:32 PM
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8. What makes Gore a bum?
Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 03:33 PM by Kahuna
Just curious.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:34 PM
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9. Clarke as VP would be a waste of talent.
I like Al Gore, but in my eyes he had a responsibility to really fight for the American people and system. His position was stolen as was our future. He owed the people who supported him, he should have thought of what was at stake. I knew what a bush presidency would mean, didnt he? For that same reason I WILL NEVER vote for Lieberman.

Fair and open elections are more important than any candidate!
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:39 PM
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11. Gore fought like hell.
He fought all the way to the Supreme Court, and after their decision his team got together and finally decided they had exhausted every option. I don't see what more he could have possibly done.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:36 PM
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10. respectfully: are you going to post a 'draft gore' thread every day?
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:56 PM
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12. Yes
I have aright to. If people can post Dean and other candidates threads, I can with Gore!
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:02 PM
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14. don't get all defensive.
never questioned your right to do so. was sincerely curious.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:12 PM
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18. CJ has his reasons...
Don't you CJ?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:17 PM
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19. well, personally i would never try to stop anyone from
diverting energy and resources from the candidates that have actually shown a desire to run for the office.

that's not like me at all! :)
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:07 PM
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15. Viable
Yea who? Kuchinich? Dean? Ha, Ha, Ha!

Get real there is only one viable candidate who we can have and it is AL GORE!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:10 PM
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:10 PM
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16. reinforces a GOP talking point
implies that none of the nine announced candidates are worth anything.

We should avoid things that help George Bush win in 2004.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:17 PM
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20. the greatest factors in success are desire and willingness
Why actively seek people who don't have it?

Gore will be tarred (yet again, even more thoroughly) as being wishy-washy and shady. Sure it's unfair, but...

He also wisely pointed out that it would run the risk of having the race devolve into some kind of personality cult revenge fest, instead of something about the issues. I think he's being noble to say and do this, and he's of much greater value to the world by starting a liberal network, as he's hinting.

Clark comes off as bewildered and timid. Maybe it's just me, but perception does count.
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republicansareevil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:44 PM
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21. You should make this a poll!
Several ways you could do this...

1. If efforts to draft Gore as a Democratic candidate were successful, and if Gore and Clark pledged that Clark would be Gore's running mate if Gore won the Democratic nomination, for whom would you vote in the primary?
-Gore/Clark
-someone else
-undecided

2. If efforts to draft Gore as a Democratic candidate were successful, for whom would you vote in the primary?
-Gore
-Kerry
-Dean
(...etc.)
-undecided

3a. If all of the following were candidates in the Democratic primary, who would be your top choice?
-Gore
-Clark
-Kerry
-Dean
(...etc.)
-undecided

3b. If all of the following were candidates in the Democratic primary, who would be your second choice?
-Gore
-Clark
-Kerry
-Dean
(...etc.)
-undecided

Those are just a few of the possibile ways to do that...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:46 PM
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22. Al Gore will NOT be drafted
dunno why you pursue it
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:48 PM
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23. i agree
gore has stated, he does not want to run again and will not... as clinton says, politics is about looking ahead... so shall we please???

geez
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:24 PM
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24. I think it would be an unstoppable ticket
Gore/Graham or Gore/Dean would also be interesting.

Gore didn't say he didn't want to run, contrary to what the poster said above. He said he had the willingness and energy to make another run. The reasons he cited I didn't quite buy. The election would be a rerun of 2000 (so why is Lieberman allowed to run) and members of the Democratic party were weary of that election -- he was sensitive to that issue. In other words, he paraphrased the DLC's statement.

Gore is the only candidate who is a sure win against Bush.* I belong to draftGore and that organization's fundraising over the internet raised half a million with a one-shot appeal to just a few members.

Gore didn't want to run in 1988 but his father talked him into it. Gore announced he wouldn't run in 1992 but Clinton talked him into it. Anything can change in politics at any time, as we all know. The nay-sayers have a different preferential candidate and sense Gore can take any of them. They should just be upfront and say they prefer someone else instead of launching insults against Al Gore.
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