Draft -- is it a Litmus Test?

[neverborn]

I say yes. 100% yes. I will campaign actively against any candidate who supports the draft. If the "liberal" does and the "conservative" does not -- I will actively campaign for the conservative.

How about you?

[lastknowngood]

1. There both for the draft and there both promising to continue and

expand the war in the mid east. Lose your passion or your going to be disappointed, I hope your not draft age 18-36 for grunts and they are instituting a tech and language draft in which they will draft people up to 45 years of age. It's going to get ugly and bloody now that the shrub has started Armageddon

[neverborn]

2. Kerry isn't "for the draft"

I'm 17.

[kalian]

6. Oh really....?

And just WHERE are you obtaining your information from?
Just where has Kerry OPENLY stated that he would not be in favor of
a draft? :shrug:

[Dems Will Win]

18. kalian, JK has stated several times we would not need the DRAFT

The 40,000 extra troop promise is on his Web site as well in Press.

From STOPTHEDRAFT.com

http://technologyreports.net/stopthedraft/?articleID=2550

-snip-

What do a former fighter pilot in the National Guard and a former officer in the Navy have in common? Both have promised not to reinstate the military draft if elected president.

Senator John Kerry has promised that if elected president he will not reinstate the military draft, but will increase troop numbers by 40,000.

President Bush and his staff have also promised the American public that there are no plans to reinstate the military draft.

-snip-

John Kerry wants to deploy 40,000 more troops to Iraq and finish the job quickly. Yet when asked how he would do it, he said that a draft is not needed and people will enlist. This approach seems rather naïve and overly optimistic.

To his advantage, however, Senator Kerry was an anti-war activist after serving his duties as a Navy officer in the Vietnam War and knows first-hand the pitfalls of the military draft.

Kerry has a NO-DRAFT PLAN while Bush has his HIDDEN AGENDA, THE PNAC PLAN. Kerry makes up the 40,000 with restructuring the Armed Services and increasing enlistment with pay raises and public emphasis on Special Ops to catch Bin Laden. We don't need a larger force than that to catch several thousand terrorists. Kerry will not draft while Bush will DRAFT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

[hang a left]

20. Yep, just like there were no plans to invade Iraq "on my desk"

"there are no plans to reinstate the military draft"

[RoyGBiv]

4. Draft Age

The draft age, according to current selective service policies, is 18 - 25, with those turning 20 in the calander year in which the draft is activated being called first.

http://www.sss.gov/fslottery.htm

[seabeyond]

3. bush is hoping to put off til after election

so you go ahead and vote for bush, and let him fool you..........again. and then he can do a draft with our kids

or lets talk about it now. get it pumping and going, and let people really think about this attack any country preemptively cause we have the right

but if you are going to believe bush, he is all yours

i am so tired of..............if dems dont do exactly what i want, i am voting for bush, i am voting for nadar.

go for it. and quit telling me about it.

[neverborn]

5. Hi

As much as you may want me to vote for Bush, I'm not going to.

Quite frankly, he didn't fail me the first time.

Yes, let's talk about it, and I don't believe Kerry supports the draft.

[kalian]

7. And...what happens if the draft is instated under Kerry...?

what are we to do? Recall him? Support him?

[neverborn]

9. Then it's the same as we've done the last four years...

[RoyGBiv]

8. Not for me

I have more faith in the liberal to keep us out of any new situations in which those drafted would be used to defend an oil company's profits.

[Guaranteed]

10. Not at all. There is a great, progressive argument FOR the draft.

And it's that soccer moms are a lot less likely to support a war that their child is having to engage in.

I think it's very dangerous to have a military made up fully of professionals. Why do you think Rumsfeld and Pat Buchanan are "against" a draft and play it down as if it wouldn't even be useful? They KNOW what happens when there's a draft. People don't like to start wars.

[neverborn]

11. I disagree.

Unwilling conscripts are bad soldiers.

[Guaranteed]

12. They're EXCELLENT soldiers.

That was part of the argument that my step-father used. The professionals don't really care about "finishing the job" when it comes to war- fighting is their job, and they kind of enjoy it.

Conscripts, on the other hand, want to get the shit over and done with, so they can go HOME. They are very focused and they don't put up with garbage.

[Guaranteed]

13. Look, I'm certainly not saying definitively that we SHOULD have a

draft, I'm just saying that there are important things to consider on both sides of the argument.

[ithacan]

14. I guess that's why we did so poorly in WWII

All those unwilling conscripts...

I guess that's why Israel is such a military wimp... all those unwilling conscripts... :eyes:

[neverborn]

17. WWII was necessary, Iraq is not

[NNN0LHI]

15. I would never vote for any candidate who ruled out a starting the draft

I don't want one now, and think we should leave Iraq ASAP. But if the existence of our country were at stake I want a president who would do whatever it took, including starting the draft if needed.

Don

[neverborn]

16. I mean for Iraq, I support draft if necessary (WWII)

[Kahuna]

19. If the conservative said he was against, would you believe him????

:shrug: C'mon. It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a conservative to tell the truth.

[Nashyra]

21. I will only actively campaign against the *

I do not trust any conservative that says he does not support a draft. They will lie until after the election and at least the liberal will say that he supports the draft "if it is needed". I can say this because I do have a draft age son, he will be 19 in july so I have a vested interest in not wanting any child or I should say young man or woman to be drafted. All the bullshit that the RW spews about needing a professional military is nothing but pure hogwash, they take all the volunteers that they can get and they are volunteering because they can not find a job or they have not got the resources to go to college. Any one who actively campaigns for a conservative because they "say" they are against the draft are just plain foolish.

[neverborn]

22. Depends on the conservative.

PNAC or Bush*? Not a chance. Pat Buchanan? Yes.

[AndyTiedye]

23. The Draft Is Never Justified

If there aren't enough volunteers to fight the war, stop the war.

[neverborn]

24. agree 100%